May 2009 - we're all here! btw, does anyone know what the Hungry Cry sounds like?

[Momino]

phew! how many threads have we done since last aug?

Morning!

Fi - v true! Could have been worse without the gate & wall! Enjoy Legoland

I have cans of diet coke (caffeine free!) in the fridge. I don't drink enough generally as I rarely feel thirsty and I don't like tea, coffee or water! I do try and force 500ml to a litre of water down me each day but I know my fluid intake is not good

fizzy drinks Funnily enough I'm craving them too. Am trying to avoid them though, so I only buy the odd small bottle when out and about. I tend to buy fanta even though I really crave coke, but the caffeine in coke stops me from sleeping and that's the last thing I want at this stage.

ses at the van incident. Luckily you're all OK.

anger I'm not more angry than usual, just a bit more impatient with the dcs.

overtiredness I think it was pula who mentioned this and thinking about it, I have a feeling thar's what was the matter with C yesterday evening. She's just so difficult to get to sleep in the day.

I'm getting C weighed today. I'm also going to try and mow the lawn and wash the car if C lets me. I need her to have ar least 2h sleep for that. It's propably a bit too much to ask from her.

'pompous dickhead tone and outrage'

Dandy It seems a little rich to criticise lemonade consumption, if it was vodka yes, or even caffeine-fuelled coke but lemonade?! No fizzy drinks here (apart from DH), just back on the coffee . Trying to limit it to mornings and stick to redbush in the afternoons.

I get really angry too, I am a bit of a crosspatch anyway. I've roared at DH a couple of times and both big girls have received drive-by shoutings.

Weight-loss, yes. Not really much bigger than pre-pg, back in my pre-pg jeans, but I was a lard-arsed chubster anyway, need to lose a stone or two . I will be hitting the spinning classes in a couple of weeks, I am dreading it.

emmmabemma please go and see your GP or HV. Get some help ASAP. I have had both PND and general depression (my family are prone to mental illnesses), my GP was superb. I am keeping an eye on myself, feeling pretty good at the mo.

ses at the wall.

Does anyone else worry that in the future, our children will be complaining about us as we have complained about our mums/MILS?

Fi enjoy Legoland

Jael I hope you get your gallstones sorted soon

sausage It's amazing how far the milk goes, isn't it? S suddenly wrenched her head backwards the other day (with nipple clamped in gums ouch!!!!), I was amazed how far the milk got.

lol at drive-by shouting!

Morning all!

Thank you for everyone who posted! I will speak to my GP and HV again soon. When I spoke to her she assured me what I was feeling was normal which made me feel better. However, I asked her when I needed to worry and she said if I start thinking about hurting myself or my babies! I though dear god no way! Now that I think about it though...so everything from being really happy and fine to wanting to hurt someone is normal? That can't be right. Hoping they have some better advise other than 'hang in there'.

Last night was a hard night. S did not settle until nearly 11. I tried swaddling her which I think helped (although last week she hated it). She is on Nystatin for the thrush in her mouth. She will either sick it back up or get so upset she wants to feed again after I give it to her. It is also full of sugar and I think it keeps her up. Will need to get her something else as it is getting worse rather than better and my pain is increasing too.

Does anyone else feel like they can't do anything since they are BF? I run the bath and as I get in S wakes. I want to get a massage but can't plan a time where I know she will be ok. DH asked if he could take me to dinner Friday and have FIL watch kids. I said I would love to but I can't leave S. Yesterday I was so mad because I could not even find time for a shower. By the time DD goes to bed, S wakes for her cluster feed marathon and I just don't feel like I get a moment to do something I want to do. It will get better I know. I want to try S on a bottle again but waiting for stupid thrush to clear up.

anger I am also having my moments where I feel increasingly angry. Normal things that would not move me, brings me to a rage. Mostly it is with DD and DH and for stupid things in the grand scheme of things. At the moment though it is the end of the world!

dandy Oh I would have knocked DH if he said something like that! You drink and eat what you want and sod them all!

I am not craving anything really but sweets which is not like me. I think it may be the thrush telling me to eat a lot of sugar. I have also noticed I am not drinking nearly enough water. Suprisingly though, I was naked in the bedroom after my shower and DH walked in and said 'wow you have lost a lot of weight.' Made me feel good, but I think he was just trying to make me feel better...bless.

Hope everyone enjoys there day. I am going to try and get out for a walk today. Realized I have not been out of the house in a week as I just have not felt like it.

Oh god sorry for the bad spelling and run on sentences. Brain is total mush!

Makes me feel so stupid as I do know the difference between there and their...grr... lol

Actually, can't rush anywhere as need to wake S to change her and no doubt that will make her cross and I will have to feed her and I just can't be bothered . I will have a coffee first.......

emmabemma get thee out of the house into the fresh air. It does do wonders for your state of mind - when I had PND, I was advised to get out as much as possible, get some exercise. It really does help (she says, slumped on large bottom on sofa)

Erm......blood loss (TMI), did anyone notice sudden increase? I lost rather a lot last night and this morning, having lost sod-all for a few days. I am a little bit worried.

grumpy Thank you and I will. I have not really felt ok going out with both babies alone yet. I went to the park once and S woke for a feed so I had to put DD in the pram as I could not chase after her and she screamed during the whole feed so I have been scared lol

And blood loss. Mine also comes and goes. I thought it had stopped as I had none for a few days. Then of course the first time I put thin light trousers on, I bled and in public too! I also stopped and then passed a huge clot. They came to check and it was fine, but noticed a lot more bleeding after that as it was acting like a plug bleh...Mine has now been gone a few days but I am not holding my breath. I think if you have clots, or it changes in colour (brighter red rather then brownish) or if it smells (maybe infection?) then you should call.

cleaning question: Ok weird I know. I have never owned an electric hob before (and I hate mine) but does anyone know how to clean the top? I don't have a flat glass top but rather the irritating raised burners. If I clean them with regular kitchen cleaner and a lot a lot of elbow grease I can smell the burning chemicals when I turn it on. I have one I can't use because something is on it that I can't get off and it smokes when it is on. I don't even know how to search online for a cleaner as I do not know what you call this kind of hob here. Is it ceramic? Any help would be great before I take a hammer to it and tell DH it is broke so I can get the one I wanted in the first place.

Grumpy My bleeding did that then stopped, I've been able to go without a pad for the last two days HOORAY! I just sent you a message on facebook by the way.

Ses Jeezo! I'm glad you guys are ok.

Emma Hope you're okay x

Greer has been so unsettled the last couple of days, it's really starting to get me down. This house is a bombsite and really needs a lot of work done to tidy it and she's not giving me any time to do it. DH is being a bit useless just now bless him, he says he's tired but I'm the one getting up with Greer during the night I checked the tumble dryer last night because I couldn't find our spare bedding and it was in there and had gone mouldy because he hadn't switched the dryer on and had then forgotten about it.

Added to that, I have three 6-week old kittens who keep peeing and sh!tting in my living room. Sometimes they use the litter tray. ARGH! Thank God they're all going to new homes soon.

Oh - and fizzy drinks? I normally can't stand them but I've had a bit of a craving recently too. I've started buying Sainsbury's own brand blackcurrant high juice or apple high juice and mixing it with soda water. It's really nice!

emmab my nan swears by Cif cream to clean electric hob burners.
I second grumpy. Going out will make you feel better. After dd1 was born going out at least once a day was what kept me sane! I would have gone mad from being stuck indoors with a newborn and 2yo.
Also, if you want a massage. Just go ahead and book it at a time when someone is around to look after S. Feed her before you go and then let the person looking after her just try and soothe her. I've done it in the past with waxing appointments. I left C with him screaming, but definitely not hungry as I'd just fed. He coped for 45min, even though she cried the whole time I was out.

blood loss Mine stopped properly last week. I can now go pad and panty liner free . When C was 3 weeks old it did come back at some point. Quite heavily too. So I think that's normal.

Better go now. C's ready for her lunch

DH's response to the wall and gate was "Oh good! I wanted to do something different with that!"

Day going solo is going ok. DS has just done the most humungus poo! He hadn't done one since Sat and has now made up for it - his bum was swimming in v sticky yellow mess! (Hope no one is having lunch!)

I might watch Twilight on sky box office this afternoon. Has anyone else seen it?

Blotted - boo to mouldy bedding. Exactly the sort of thing my DH would do!

EBsMom - I always have problems cleaning my electric hob and it's a glass top one.

Just reread my post. Him who was left with a crying C is my DH of course. Not some random man .

gotta go back and catch up on the posts but before I do... a small complaint: Harper has just spent 45 minutes in the sling whilst i went to the shops. she was quiet as a mouse and fell asleep the last half hour so I transferred her to M/basket to nap properly, sneaked down to the kitchen for lunch and, surprise, she's wahhh-wahhing and I've only just sat down. she shouldn't be hungry, has a clean nappy, it's not a windy cry (is it?)...

do they just not want us to eat or relax ?

I feel like I might have baby blues or something. Just feel really useless at the moment and I definately have the RAGE that dandy described. I bollocked poor DH last night because I was trying to get tea for DD ready (fish fingers, beans and mash hardly rocket science)and R started crying and needed a feed so I was holding him standing at the cooker and I just took everything out on DH.
Even when both DCs are ok I keep thinking any moment now all hell will break loose again.

DH wanted to go to an event at the natural history musuem that he worked on a while ago. But the thought of taking both DCs into town makes me feel tired. Maybe we should just do it DD would love it and DH will be there to help with everything. Oh god why am I such a grumpy cow????? I'm really worried about money and how we can afford to live on one wage too. I need to chill out.

BelgianC Thanks for the advice re pre-ecalpsia I did wonder about that and asked them to check my urine for protein but was told not much point when there is blood loss which will show up as protein. but they thought it was a bit late for that as BP went up on day 9, although looking back at notes rise had started on day 5.
hooray for name check amnesty - where has all the time gone to do that huh !

gosh I just realised I missed a whole full post natal thread - eek no time to read through it all so apologies if I repeat something already said.

am feeling so much more normal again this week phew ! HV just been and Isaac has gained 8oz since Thurs - is now weighing 7lb 11oz ... yay! worries over for the mo about that.

thanks tumm, BC, EBsMom, Momino for the well wishes.

Finally got my double buggy so can actually leave the house by myself with both DS's - first trip round to the corner shop yesterday afternoon was a success.

I didn't tell you about my disaster trip out to see the doctor on my own with Isaac in the pram and Dylan (20 mnths) on reins a couple of weeks back. Only a 3 min walk so shouldn't have a problem but once in the surgery D was playing with toys I got called and he decided he wasn't leaving the waiting room and threw himself on the floor screaming - whole waiting room looking at me thinking why isn't she picking him up. Me on bended knees trying to calm D thinking what the heck do I do now. Fab nurse races across to help saying - don't pick him up you just had an operation, I'll get him, She then bribes D with another toy what a star.
He then did similar on the way home but this time in the middle of the road as we were crossing, luckily it was on an estate and not busy, but took me some bribing to get him up and moving again. arrrggghhh
Probably didn't help the BP situation but have binned the reins for the moment And I'm loving the P&T inline buggy which he can climb up into on his own, Isaac lays flat underneath in the carry cot - so same as in the pram.

Anyway must go now try and have a little nap as miracles do happen both DS's have dropped off to sleep at the same time.... yeah I know it won't last and I might get 10 mins. Zzzzzzzzzzzz

Same thing happened to me momino I got DD down to sleep and started to make my lunch. Just sat down and S woke up too. She also should not have needed anything. So I had to sit and feed her while watching my lunch get cold. Just now got her back to sleep (2 hours) and now I hear DD. Hope you manage a meal at somepoint!

febes I am in the same boat as you. I also had a moment cooking dinner last night. S started crying as I was trying to serve up. I put something in the fridge, and things fell out so I started yelling at the fridge. Then I couldn't get dinner off the pan so I grabbed it with my hand and burned myself. Then I screamed at DH as he was the next thing I saw and then I stormed out of the kitchen. Later he huged me and I cried for like 15 min on his shoulder and I don't know why. Everyone keeps telling me to talk to my HV so maybe you should to? I don't really have any advise as I feel out of control too but just wanted to let you know that you are not alone

Thanks belgian I will buy some Cif cream tomorrow. Hope it works! I am just really weird about S crying. DH keeps saying we should let her cry for a few min. I tried yesterday and made it to 2 min before I broke down and had to pick her up. I was on the toilet once and DH had her when she was screaming. I couldn't take it so he actually brought her to me while I went! I don't think I could relax if I thought she would be upset while I was away. Then again I also text my FIL about every 30 min when he has DD. I am sure I drive him crazy!

hello all- just a quick post. We are settling in at home and the visitors have eased off a bit- although we have round two of visitors starting weds!
Things are generally going ok- Jake is feeding well now after some early issues. He is having lots of baths as he seems to go for a wee every time his nappy is opened, I know you aren't meant to bath newborns every day but what else can you do when he is covered in wee!

My stitches are still sore so am sat on a pillow but have managed a few short trips out- Jenn I am prob up to meeting up if you fancy it or you are welcome to pop round to mine again Might even go to baby club on Thurs.

Ebsmom I agree with what others have said about getting out- I work in MH and we would always tell people with low mood to make sure they go out and do things- it doesn't have to be a mammoth outing just a quick walk to a shop to buy a magazing or something will help. Also am v. impressed at you cleaning your hob- my house looks like it has been ransacked!

Mini Don't you just love the P&T? I love how cozy and safe S is and DD loves being high up. When it is sunny S is nice and cool and shaded down there too. Also, when DH or my FIL takes DD I can just switch it to a one seater to make it dummy proof for them. Love it!

Sophie Thank you and I will. I just texted DH as he is due home soon and asked if he wanted to do something even if it were just the library or park. Oh and who said I was actually going to clean my hob? lol The question of what to use has been bothering me for ages. I sprayed my hob with dettol and that is as far as I have gotten today. Maybe tomorrow I will get as far as wiping it off lol Oh and I also bath S nearly everyday. I then rub her down with E45 lotion. She loves baths and never cries and loves her little massage too. Nice way to break up the cluster feeds at night with something mellow we both enjoy. Love, love, love clean fuzzy baby hair...mmmmm

sophie I'd love to come round to see you. I'm working on a non-vegan version of those maple and pecan biscuits, but I've not got it right yet. I doubt there will be any left by then mind. I've got the HV tomorrow morning, and will have ds with me in the afternoon, so you might not want to see us on Wednesday.

Dandy I hold you personally responsible for my horrific diet.

Your reckless talk of fizzy drinks forced me into buying a bottle of diet cherry coke whilst out 'n' about (it was bloody awful as well, but I was about to feed Sophia and was very thirsty). I somehow hold you responsible for the dark chocolate KitKat and bag of crisps I ate too . God, I am eating total shite at the moment, I am eating lots of fruit and veg too, but way too much stodge. We finished the chocolate banana bread yesterday, I only made it on Sunday, DH's comment, as he devoured the last morsel was 'when you making another?'. I almost bought some bananas in preparation today but restrained myself.

sophietom glad things are going well now! Sophia does a poo with every single feed and sometimes little bonus ones in between too. Lovely.

Momi All of mine have been food radars, Sophia starts crying the second any meal is ready, meaning I have to sit and watch everybody eating, whilst my food withers away in the oven. With DD1 I got incredibly skinny because I never got a chance to eat, DH looks after me now and makes sure I eat. It's like they can smell the food...

Blotted I have replied!

Pants.

I had a lovely afternoon planned. I'd packed DS1 off with the inlaws, and was going to take DS2 shopping. DH has given me some money to buy smaller clothes in celebration of my weight loss, and I've spent ages in my wardrobe planning what to buy.

I set off to Solihull nice and early, and felt very excited at the prospect of lovely new things. Then I stopped for fuel and put blinking unleaded petrol in my diesel engine. Arrrrrgh.

So I spent the best part of an hour on the forecourt waiting for the AA, fending off the motorists who weren't happy that I was taking up a pump. So instead of shopping I'm home cleaning.

about food radars, there is a great quote from the film 'A Christmas Story' (wasn't shown in the UK I'm afraid): my mother hasn't eaten a hot meal in 15 years...
everytime she was about to put the fork in her mouth, 'could you get me more potatoes'. As soon as she'd serve the child and sat down to eat, the other child or DH would ask her to get something else to eat and so on.

This goes on for me until all the chidren and DH are finished eating but I haven't yet touched my food!