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APRIL 2008 - The One Where They Try to Escape from Cots & Highchairs

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Soph73 · 13/11/2008 15:38

Can someone please add "our babies" as my machine will probably blow up if I try it

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MadameOvary · 30/12/2008 12:13

Yes and so glad too, would be v worried otherwise!
Its a back tooth so more painful than the front ones, she is chewing on her fingers all the time. Thank goodness for Bickiepegs.

VSisFlouncing · 30/12/2008 14:07

9TH!!!!
DS has four, top 2 and bottom 2 but that's it.
My phone has been off for days, sorry Scorpio, but yes it would be fine to bf.

JingleBellsDennySmells · 30/12/2008 15:36

Welocome back Beeper/Believer hows ur DS getting on?

9 teeth, blimey, we still only have 2 although another 4 are on the way with nice white gums at the minute. Thankfully not too much separation anxiety here as long as someone is in her sight she is fine it dosent have to be me.

Scorpio hope the thrush is feeling better today.

VS r u ok? u seem a little, erm, agitated at the minute, is it just the other threads?

JingleBellsDennySmells · 30/12/2008 15:37

Oops, welcome, not welocome.

VSisFlouncing · 30/12/2008 15:46

agitated?
I'm fine.
Look I'll give you a smile >>>

MadameOvary · 30/12/2008 17:02

I dont know if the poor thing is going to get a break, really! And the back tooth is taking its time, she has had a red cheek for a while now.
Thankfully she doesnt bite me too much, usually its when she's nodding off (wince)

SantasGotABigFatEllieG · 30/12/2008 19:49

Don't know what's happened, but hugs to VS anyway. You need anyone beaten up or anyfink? I can do it, am quite tough and have had no sleep for about 3 days so need someone to take frustration out on....

Mol not sleeping. Again. Ho hum.

Gosh at Bas and his very advanced walking ways! Mol isn't even crawling yet, in fact, she's only really just got the hang of rolling. Little backwards thing that she is, bless her.

I spoke to a nice Mum at a baby group today who was waxing lyrical about her childminder and how good she was, and said she had spaces. I am all conflicted now about nursery v chldminder for when I go back to work. I think I will go see her - I do like the thought of one person being responsible, especially if she is good, means my little girl will just have to get used to one other person, which might be good. But the nursery is so good and full of lovely activities and nice staff that am not sure. Basically, I don't want to go back at all, the idea is freaking me out and making me feel horrid and torn inside, so nothing will be good enough. But can't give up my wage, as earn double what DH does, saved for year off and can do no more. Bah.

Clarissimo · 30/12/2008 20:10

Ellie we really prefer using a CM but it depends on yur prenting style nd the one you find; every decisio0n difers.

Separation anxiety? Bas was born with it! Went to someone else for an hour yesterday- non Dh that's the fuirst time ever (my Mum), even for Dh a rarity

DonDons · 30/12/2008 20:26

Hi Ladies, just swooping in to wish you all a very happy new year.

Have not been posting during the whole debacle but VS - I just knew that wasn't you - just not your style at all.

Anyhoo - like I said - Happy New Year to you all

VSisFlouncing · 30/12/2008 22:19

Ellie, I've used both CM and nursery and both times it came down to who they were, not the situation itself.
You can find really fab CMs but you can find really shit ones, one CM I know quite well and respected I heard having a go at one of her mindees because his mum sent spagbol for his lunch and she said he had to sit in the highchair, he is in DS1's class at school. DS1 was 4 yesterday. Before this I'd thought she was great so that's the thing that makes me about CMs, there is no-one else to pick up on anything, with nurseries however you could have a shit one that is full of people who don't care, or one like DS1's where everyone was totally in love with at least one child.
My suggestion would be to book up the nursery for a couple of days and turn up early, by about 30 mins, see how everyone is, do the same with the CM but turn up an hour or so early, or at lunch or something, the best view you will get is when you are not expected, either way I'm sure M will be fine, whistleblower and the such only show the worst options.

No, I don't need anyone beating up Basically, a quick version, some old MNers have set up a forum, some old mners were left out by their friends and are understandably hurt, some others have got offended by proxy (even people who have been here for a month or so) some trolls have shitstirred (I've reported one under a few diff names), then people got nasty and were really horrible to each other, it went to the papers, I got misquoted, as did others. The End. (hope you saw it the same Clarrisimo) i was only annoyed by Believer because it seemed like someone I didn't know was leaking the same nastiness into our pn thread, but now I know it's not. It's fine.

Clarissimo · 30/12/2008 22:28
VSisFlouncing · 30/12/2008 22:36

Ha, no, I really do believe there were 5? ish people on the whole thing that had a reason to be bothered. For those that were I felt shite, for those that weren't ......

I think also part of it was that I thought a few months ago when Scorpio was having her problems and a e of us mentioned the tip of the iceburg that it might be easier for us to talk with a closed forum, spesh as some people have found RL friends on here,I personally don't go into too much depth wrt my relationship with DP cos it's private y'know? I have stuff going on tomorrow that I would love to chat about but don't feel I can just cos it's not private here. difference is we'd have chosen people on the merit of having a baby/being due a baby in april 08, HUGE difference.

EllieG · 31/12/2008 10:09

Hmm. Tricksy one isn't it? I can understand why people hurt if felt left out I suppose. But then, like you say, some things is hard talking about on an open forum - can always email people, but sometimes you do want a group opinion, though only the group you know and trust e.g this one. I pretty much only post here these days anyway, don't feel as much connection with the rest as used to and have no time to build it up.

Thanks for opinions re CM/nursery. The CM is away til mid Jan so will call her then and arrange to turn up sometime. The lack of accountability does worry me hugely, if am honest, esp as I have been part of cases involving CMers, one was horrendous, and involved years of abuse by a member of the CM's family towards the mindees. The CM was not aware, but she was lazy and did not follow sensible proceedures, and it would be harder to get that at a nursery. BUT - that is rare, and if I could get a good CM would almost be as good as being with me wouldn't it?

I am also worried about separation anxiety, someone told me I was going back to work at the worst time for her (1 year) and she would be really affected.

She slept better last night - I upped her milk in the day and left heater on low in night so think that helped.

She's squeeking, must go. How dare she interrupt me

scorpio1 · 31/12/2008 11:29

VS what do you mean? that i should keep stuff to myself? I needed help then and didn't know who to ask.

scorpio1 · 31/12/2008 11:30

Ellie - i have always used a nursery, as accountability is important to me. I also like the fact they see alot of other children & have a few carers, and lots of activities. Thats just me though

Clarissimo · 31/12/2008 11:45

I will say thugh- the one person I wouldnt leave the ds's with, a lady who is really anti-supporting them, aggressive, opnionated- manages a very highly regarded nursery (and is a relative LOL)

there's also a nursery near sis cosewd last week in emergency situation bu ofsted for what Sis said probab;y is very severe manhandlng of childrem.

CM's are acountable to Ofsted /Estyn BTW. Which is as much as a nursery is.

It really does come down to what you are happy with.

scorpio1 · 31/12/2008 11:49

i know they are accountable to OFSTED; i sort of mean that there are always other people 'watching', not just an adult in a house alone, iyswim.

LadyBeeNLookingForPressies · 31/12/2008 14:42

Ellie, I'm going with a childminder but only because after meeting her I felt completely at ease with her, I think you can think about the pros and cons of each 'in theory' but it comes down to the reality of your local nursery/the childminders you meet etc. My local nursery was fine, chaotic and busy and a bit mixed but looked professionally run etc. I checked out a childminder's group practice as well, and was going to go with them (I think another April08er uses them), and then was recommended this childminder, met her several times, watched her with her other mindee, talked with her, took babybee around to hers a couple of times etc. It just felt right. And after doing all the checks and asking all the questions, I think gut instinct is about all you can go on.
My DP works in an area where he bumps up against lots of 'wrong'uns' and he also believes gut instinct can tell you a lot. I'm sure you've got finely tuned instincts for spotting where things aren't quite right, so I'd encourage you to trust them.

I'm happy that there will be only one other baby being looked after by my minder, they will go out on activities that the nursery wouldn't do regularly (forest play) and he won't be exposed to hundreds of other kids' germs on a daily basis..just a few other kids' germs

VS, glad you're still posting here.
We're painting the lounge and dining room...what glorious plans do you all have for New Year's eve??

VSisFlouncing · 31/12/2008 15:04

God Scorpio, no, not at all, just that you might have felt more able to open up more to us if it wasn't publicly accessible iyswim.

scorpio1 · 31/12/2008 16:18

LadyBee - your childminder sounds lovely

We don't have many down here, and the good ones there are are always full up! My ursery is 2 minutes walk from my house too, which is a bonus . Plus sides to both i think

VS - good, i thought that was it, would have been upset if you were suggesting i shouldnt have asked, as you helped me ALOT.

scorpio1 · 31/12/2008 16:19

Ladybee - we are painting, carpeting etc in two rooms this week! . i really hate decorating.

SalLikesCoffee · 31/12/2008 16:46

Happy new year to you all!

Ellie, good luck with your childcare decision. It's so hard to trust someone with them for so long, isn't it? I'm the one Ladybee mentioned using the Childminder Practice (their setup is like a nursery, but more staff per child - basically the 3 owners between 6 children, of which 3 under 1 year). In the end my decision was based on feeling though - I really liked the people and they were great with him.

Impressed with those of you doing diy - I'm having a lazy day half dead after a looooong night (see below).

Here a bit tired an groggy, with R having bronchiatis and generally puking over everything, whilst crying inbetween.

MadameOvary · 31/12/2008 20:52

Also wish you luck Ellie. The thing about seperation anxiety AFAIK is that its a normal developmental stage, like teething it isnt very pleasant but should be treated with lots of cuddles and reassurance. Well, that's what I'm doing anyway!

EllieG · 01/01/2009 15:32

Thanks for advice ladies. Will go with gut feeling. Loved the nursery I have booked a place at, so if doesn't work out with CM I will not be sad sending DD there, esp as a few people have told me (people who know like health visitors and speech therapists) how well respected the manager is and what a good nursery she runs. So shall see.

Was anyone else's new years eve as exciting as mine? We got a takeaway and a bottle of wine, watched Martin Clunes thing (which was bit rubbish tbh bless him) and I was in bed before midnight. How sad am I?

EllieG · 01/01/2009 15:37

I read a book which said at this age they should be napping for 2-3 hours a day. So how come mine will only do two half hour ones?

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