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Jan '07 part 23: Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No! It's 2happy's flying shed!

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2happy · 29/02/2008 15:48

Watch out cows, here it comes!

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Reggiee · 04/03/2008 19:41

Great news!
Do you want to come here or me to you?

Think I'll move to email so don't bore everyone else on the thread. Am seeing Vino on Friday so could check her diary too.

Shimmer · 04/03/2008 20:39

Hi all. Thanks for all the advice on my rubbish boyfriend . I have forgiven him for the moment, and haven't mentioned the underwear on the internet incident as it may be nothing and i don't want to blow it out of proportion. I have decided to just keep my eyes on history/CC bills and see if anything actually incriminating turns up. That sounds a bit awful doesn't it? Like i'm spying on him. I don't actually believe in my heart of hearts that he's cheating... buti'm still keeping an eye out for a while...

Sympathies to those with sleeping problems. F has not been too bad recently. He does wake up in the night sometimes, but I've never been able to do CC and find that i can just pick him up and comfort him if he needs it for a few minutes and then put him back down again and he'll go back to sleep. I know this goes against what people genrally say you should do... but it's always worked for us!

Ohh tescos delivery has just come. Horray! Lots of vino for me

Just wanted to say quickly i completely agree with you RGee about this being a lovely age. I am really enjoying spending time with F at the moment. He's so expressive now and very good at communicating even though he's not using actual words...and he just loves playing. We play with his toys and blocks and play football and with musical instruments and books and stuff - it's just a lot more fun than when he was a baby

Reggiee · 04/03/2008 20:54

Ohh thanks for the prompt Shimmer. Must go do Tescos shop. I am sooo grateful for online supermarket shopping. Bliss!
Keep reading/hearing lots of news items about women in their 30s drinking too much. Just makes me want to reach for the wine more. Drink anyone??

Wilkie · 04/03/2008 21:12

Ugh - am still TeeTotal. Stop talking about alcofrol!

laughalot · 04/03/2008 21:23

Debenhams sale tomorrow ...... 25%

laughalot · 04/03/2008 21:24

Soz jus trying to straighten my hair and type

Wilkie · 04/03/2008 21:29

Ooooooooo - 25%??!! Hmmm, not leaving for house viewings until 11.30am....time for a quick shop?!?!?!

susiecutiemincepies · 04/03/2008 21:57

Shimmer: SO funny you should say that about this being a lovely age. I was thinking exactly that at bath time tonight. I managed to get her in myself tonight. And we played with all the bath toys, and she chats non stop at me. She obviously really thinks she is talking and I understand it all. MAkes me chuckle sometimes. All the tones, and intonation is perfect for the conversation. Ups, and downs, pauses, nods, yeps and head shakes, its all there. Shame I've no idea what she is actually saying to me!

I did have a really lovely day to day, thanks to a certain, very lovely lady here. Seems my Isobel had words with E&H, and asked her to go to the shops and acknowledge mothers day with some yummy choccies and a lovely card. I have to admit, I cried. I was just so touched at the thought. I was gobsamacked, totally. I can't thank you enough , lovely, I really can't. it also sadly, highlighted, even more how shit DH is. The fact that someone I barely know, cared more for my feelings than he did, well, you can imagine how that feels. However, I've enjoyed the choccies, not all of them yet.... and Izzy took about 10 minutes licking one at tea time Thank you thank you thank you thank you.... can't thank you enough really Lovely lovely laydeeee

sleeptraining UD well, I do know how you feel about it. I had the exact same feelings as you. I guess the combination of never having anyone else to get up to Izzy, and having such terrible pain, which is so much worse with no sleep, meant that I just had to do something about it. As I had absolutely no reserve left for my self whatsoever.
This is just not controlled crying as you would think it is. It is a really really gentle way to do it. Trust me.. this is coming from the mum who couldn't let her teeny baby cry or squeek for more than, oh, about 5 seconds! Also from the mum that was SO anti CC that I can't even watch a program with supernanny, or which ever child expert in it, if there were any sleep prblems at all, incase they left a baby crying. I'm so with you on it....

Thats why you start with teeny tiny amounts of time, before you go into them, and cuddle them etc... you can start with as little as 30 seconds... then go up to 2mins 30 seconds and so on... I honestly didn't ever get to leave her for more than 7 minutes. 7mins really isn't a long time at all. I know it sometimes seems forever when you are listening to it, but it really isn't. Plus, you can stay with them for as long as it takes to calm and settle them down. You just leave as soon as they have stopped crying. Then leave them until the time has elapsed, even if, sadly they cry all that time. Izzy cried on and off tbh. Sometimes immediatly, sometimes just at the end of the timing...

I put it into perspective by doing something whilst timing her. LIke, make a cup of tea... put some washing up away, or load the washing machine and set it.. you know, all the kinds of things, you would probably do in the day, if they were crying for a cuddle, or attention, or if they were just in a crappy mood, having a wingy day... you wouldn't go to them immediately, or you'd not get anything done ever, you'd finish what you were doing, then give them plenty of love and cuddles.

Try timing yourself doing a few daily tasks, like i've mentioned... imagine yourself doing that with them crying. you'd just be saying ot yourself, " i'll just finish this, then I'll be there' the time will fly...

I know I said all this before, but, Isobel was incredibly upset the first night, and the first time I went in and left without her. You would have thought i had tried to murder her, by her reaction. She shouted, cried, coughed, sobbed you name it, she did it...but even that only lasted about 5 mins, at the most. ( and I felt absolutely terrible , and I cried too )

She was just furious with me. The fact you are 'allowed' to cuddle them, and it doesnt mess up the plan, makes it really really easy to do. It felt like a very gentle way to do it.

Its not really about the amount of time they are left, its showing them that you are there, that you do love them, if they cry, they will be loved and cuddled, but, just not for as long as they would like, and you will leave them in their own bed for the night. You just dont do any of it immediately, thats all.

I just couldn't do 'proper controlled crying'. I am,and was totally against it, and the principle.

The result has been that she is a much happier little girl, all round. honestly. I wouldnt' have believed it if someone told me that would be the outcome. She actually goes to bed now, with NO crying, shouting, nothing at all. She just lies down in her bed when i put her in, waits for me to tuck her in, looks at me, always says something ( not sure what it is! ) i tell her the sleepy fairies are on the way, and she says thank you and thats it! honestly!

Sometimes, I hear her chatting for a little while, and when i look in she's reading her books out loud, pointing at the pages. She then just lays down again and goes to sleep. same at nap time. She never used to even go for a nap!

Now, shes having at least one a day, sometimes two. I'm just amazed, and so pleased that I did it now. the first night was the hardest, the second not too bad, the third was really easy. After that, i timed her, but never got past 3 mins and she'd stop. If she wakes now, she just chats to herself, and goes back to sleep. I'm sure she wakes more, but I don't hear her.

I realise i've gone on and on again.. just, I wanted to stress that its not the same as CC. Really it isn't. Its worth a go, if your LO isn't sleeping. I always feed her if she wakes at 6am or there about, and feed her, as it reasonable she's thirsty by then. She then goes back to sleep for at least another hour and half or more...

I also must do the tesco inline shop! God, I'm so so sorry i've preached about the sleep thing again! I am clearly just so thrilled with it, I want everyone to give it a go!

eandh · 04/03/2008 22:13

susie so glad they cheered you up, Isobel is really rather good chatting to me on the phone I think you should renae yourself 'thesleeptrainer'

wilkie would you like me to pop up at the weekend and organise and pack for you?

Laughalot now you really shouldnt have told me about debenhams M&S have online sale with tres cute pj's

susiecutiemincepies · 04/03/2008 22:20

blimey! that sounds like a huge amount of stuff to do! you are a far better woman than I !!

Isobel was trying to send a piccie back arranging a date, but it wouldn't send. She gave up at tea time. I'm sure she'll try again in the morning

That was SO cute! She has SO much hair! Izzy just has a big mop at the back, a little curly bit at the sides, and bugger all on top, she looks like she's sporting a mullet tbh!

katwith3kittens · 04/03/2008 22:28

EaH you are SO SO lovely, that is a most wonderful thing to do.

Well, again for the fifth night in a row I am sat at home alone whilst DH is out drinking working, but ...tonight I found a bottle of wine under the dining room table, god knows how long it had been there, I'm assuming LO must have rolled it there

(EaH please dont go into apoplexy (sp?)we only use this room 3 times a year !!!)

DS1 seems OK and is proudly strutting about with a large bruise. Boys ... constantly getting into scrapes, still, if Jonny Wilkinson can still look good after all he's been through theres hope for my LO !

Hmm, sleep...... tbh I'm not sure if I could do what you have managed with I just yet Susie, he'd probably wake the whole house up and then there would be 3 more faces here.

I think they have to be ready for it too which obviously I was. TBH, he wakes, and then I bring him into our bed, quick suck and thats that... back again. It would probably be easier if he had a dummy but I absolutely hate them and he has never had one thankfully, at least I wont have to go through all that dummy cold turkey hell.

Just to let you know (I feel like I'm confessing something really bad now ....)but my other 2 had dummies even with my intense dislike of them... they had to, otherwise I would have given up BF after 5 minutes

eandh · 05/03/2008 08:51

New pic on profile (2nd one) shock horror they are both looking and smiling/grimacing at the camera!!

Ellie is 'bunking' off school today as its goddaughter party 11-1
(her preschool shuts on wednesdays) and ellie was desperate to go so I agreed got to head into town first so need to get coats and shoes sorted

Lizzzombie · 05/03/2008 15:55

Argh!
Was supposed to be gardening this afternoon, but have spent the last hour ordering clothes for DJ on the M&S sale site! Huge bargains to be had.
Ladies wear is totally naff though.

Reggiee · 05/03/2008 19:22

Hi all. Quiet day here today.
Couldn't find much on the M&S site, an Debenhams so called spectacular has not interested me either. So just done my supermarket shop instead. Not quite the same glamour.

Been admiring your photos EaH. E&H look so alike!

Reggiee · 05/03/2008 19:23

How was the party btw?

susiecutiemincepies · 05/03/2008 21:18

Hi girls

Had an awful night with myself last night. Feeling crappy, and sore. isobel was being a bit 'squeeky' in her sleep, so I decided I'd put her in my bed, so if she was awake I didn't have to get up and down to her. She woke up of course as soon as I tucked her in and turned the light out! She was really really lovely though. Just sat up, kissed me, hugged me, then picked up her books and started 'reading' them out to me! she is so funny when she does that. We evenutally got back to sleep at nearly 5am! So, had a little lie in together.

She woke me up, biting my tummy!! I was a mix of utterly shocked, and confused, and really angry! she sat on the naughty step to 'think' about it. Its really interesting, I out her there if she has done something particularly naughty. She doesn't get up, or move. She sits, feet flat on the ground, and looks down, often crying. She knows, its a punishment. I cannot fathom, how she can know at such a young age. She totally gets that I will be cross if she moves. I don't know how, or why, as I've only used it about 4 times ever, and never had to go and put her back!

She also loves sitting there at othertimes, by herself. She sits there playing with the shoes and daddies slippers, most days at some point.

Anyway, do any of you use anyhting like this yet? Do you have to, more to the point! ? Trust me, this was a last resort for me, following a long spate of her pinching and pulling my hair, oh, and deciding throwing wooden bricks at the mirror was a good idea...

The rest of our day was ok. Went to a friends house who has a 3 year old and a little boy who will be 1 on friday. had tea there. hated leaving, as I knew I was coming back to an empty house, and still have not had a phone call from DH.

hope you are all ok. Seems to have been really quiet here today, so no new personals to add to...

Reggiee · 05/03/2008 21:33

Hi Susie. Have you heard any more from dh?
we don't have a naughty step or any form of discipline yet. I think I will be a complete soft touch to over compensate for my upbrigning, then end up with a real spoit madam!!

eandh · 05/03/2008 21:41

Susie - was juts going to text you as I am home now (will do in a mo, has dh mentioned you going to manchester on friday?

Party was great and the girls were both v.well behaved and the only 2 children out of 22 that ate all of their lunch (hot lunch provided) and their puddings, all the other mums were laughing at Hattie as she was just sitting there eating and looking around. Ellie made some new friends as the only person she knew was our goddaughter but goddaughters friends were lovely and included her and they loved hattie running around 'screeching' at them. Se has developed a few new words, 'he ho' hello and 'ye ye' bye bye and if she sees a dog she goes mad saying 'woof'.

Been to my bimonthly bingo night with eddas tonight, we never win, she won the first game with one line and won £20 and gave me half and I won the very last game full house and won £50 so gave her half (we hav always said we'd go halves) so had a great night and lovely to catch up minus any children.

My mum went to M&S at my Nans today (nice big store) and bought the girls vests/knickers/tights for next winter and some jeans for Hattie now. I have restrained and not bought anything because they dont need anything.

Susie - Naughty step never worked fo rellie as she constanlty got up and thought it was funny so she gets sent upstairs and hates it (stairgate up so she cant come down) I leave her for 3 minutes or till shes calmed down if shes raging, occasionally I will smack her but she has to have been very naughty (biting, swearing, spiteful etc)

Hattie isnt to bad (think shes been watching ellie and realised its not worth being naughty) but she gets told 'no' alot and if shes been really spiteful (pulling ellie/mine hair etc) then I tend to take her favourite toy away for a few minutes or she gets a tap on her hand, her worst punishment would be removal of food wink]

Rgee - i am not sure if they do or dont look like each otehr at times I cans ee it and other times I can't. Ellie had the round face/short body etc till she was almost 2.5 then she shot up and slimmed out so maybe thats when I'll see it more. I cant decide who they look like but people always say Ellie looks like me but has dh build and hattie I think is definately my side of the family

susiecutiemincepies · 05/03/2008 21:44

Just a text to say all ok for the weekend and he has next week off. , no apology, no word about the weekend he just overlooked. Nothing. Still not answering my calls or messages. He only sent me that one, as I basically told him he had got what he obviously wanted, and our relationship looked like it was over... he replied with that, immediatly, like he was pretending not to have read mine. I dont know whats going on in his F*d up mind.

So, in a word, no, not heard anything. I even decided last night that I coudlnt do all this anymore, and sent him a really lovely, soppy message, in the hope that he would feel able to call, as he wouldn't feel that when he does, it was going ot be an arguement... well, i sent it, then called this morning, feeling all positive, and nothing. didn't answer. Heard nothing since.

Wilkie · 05/03/2008 21:51

Think have found house. Have applied with agency for it but credit check takes 7-10 days so we are cutting it very fine!! Check also cost £150!!

...and got a fucking parking ticket...bastards

In mardy mood so no personals.

Night xx

eandh · 05/03/2008 22:00

do you need chocolate and tampons???????c

susiecutiemincepies · 05/03/2008 23:21

Oooo, fingers crossed Wilkie! Really will be sending positive vibes your way. Talk about rip off with the checks. I had to do that when looking for this place, cost me £120. Then the bloody flat fell through as the vendor pulled out, deciding to let their daughter live in the flat they were renting. I was fuming! I couldn't get the money back either.

NOT that this will happen to you, of course! shit, sorry, I didn't mean to suggest it would...

Oh, good luck with it, I really, really hope it come through for you.

Latest on the crap 'D'H... a phone call half an hour ago. Talking to me like nothing had happened at all Told me all about his week at work, and the weekend. All about every single little detail of the project, all the things that went wrong this week. ( like I give a flying f*) Then how excited he is about seeing his girls this weekend, and having izzy saturday evening, while I go out. And that he's got all of next week off, to spoil us and do lots of things as a family... and he's also booked another week off after easter. The man is on a different planet.

I decided no point saying anything tonight. Will leave it until he's looked after Izzy saturday night, in Manchester, as I'm really looking forward to it, and don't want him letting me down on that too... will talk ALOT on way home in car ( no escape from me there ) and next week too. Have to sort some serious shit out, or we are really at the end of the road. Still, I know he knows he's seriously F* up, by the way he was talking. Will make most of it. Believe me I will. I'm seething from it all. So hurt still. Sadly, I don't think this is the last of it all, but certainly for the time being ( you ll all be incredibly relieved to hear )

Thank you all for all your kindness and support.I can't tell you how much it helps to have you guys to talk to. really and truly, you are all fantastic lovely people. I feel so
fortunate.

Thank you again. I'm sure Izzy would like to thank you too, for helping to keep her mummy sane.

Lots of love and hugs etc all round. xxxxxxx

eandh · 06/03/2008 08:46

woo hoo yesterday was obviously my lucky day, apart fom bingo win, I won some money on lottery last night I am going to buy myself new jeans tomorrow

vinorouge · 06/03/2008 09:48

Hiya

Just had quick read thorugh last few days. E has just woken up from nap....so aaagh no time! Maybe she can play in her cot for a bit. She fell backwards when she was having brek earlier as has taken to rocking on the chair (she has one of those booster things on a normal chair) and bashed her head. Her sleep has allowed me to catch up on emails and do tesco shop online.

Susie - hope you enjoy your night in Manchester and talk with DH sorts things out.

Wilkie - moving is a a stress but it will be worth it. Know just what you mean about DH talking to you in a really slow voice.

E&H - youa re soooo busy! And so thoughtful too. We are lucky to have you on our thread

Was so glad to see E this morning cos had last seen her Sun afternoon. Work went well this week though, had to present results of our first report yesterday and it couldn;t have gone better, managed to handle all the questions ok. Phew! No need to work anymore this week either cos did so many hours there. Am really enjoying working from home and the actual work so things are good for me at the moment. Had letter confirming salary yippeee but also saying that my employer might withdraw support for my secondment (cos the people I am working for have said they won;t pay the difference in my maternity pay. Cos I earn more on secondment I will get higher maternity pay). I cried when I read it cos has been so much hassle sorting salary and although they assured me when I applied that they would support me they have done nothing of the sort since. I'll just have to wait and see what happens but it feels like they are punishing me for being pregnant.

Today got last swimming lesson with E and then tomorrow RGee coming over.

Rgee I am making one of those ginger cakes like you had at my mums. It would be made already except I was an egg short so will have to make it later.

Reggiee · 06/03/2008 19:06

Vino - am looking forward to tomorrow! Nom nom cake!!! Will prob get the bus over though cos otherwise I'll be turning up on your doorstep at 7am!!

Susie - hope all goes well with your dh this weekend. And enjoy Manchester. Think I missed the bit on what you were doing there, but have fun!

Eah hope it was a big win . V exciting!

Prepare yourselves.......I have just been on the treadmill for 20 minutes .....