December 2007: It's all worth it for the smiles.

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Wow! Just put ds down to type that as one handed was doing my head in. He was crying, dd went up to him and was saying "Its ok, you're alright douggie" and stroking his head and he has gone to sleep!!!

Maybe I should move him into her room so she can deal with the night wakings too

Clairybee - it's amazing isn't it - DD2 can be in a real grump and as soon as she hears and sees DD1, chills completely and just focuses on watching her big sister. Find it very heartwarming

As for shouting - I'm finding myself shouting at DD1 more recently (and DH - obviously!) which I then feel horrid about - it's a little bit like I know there is no point shouting at DD2 so go for someone who can take note - never works though and only makes me feel worse.

Suey2 think I might wait a bit as she doesn't seem bothered at all by it. Is Millie mixed fed or bottle? Been playing on the old t'internet and it seems to say that completely BF babies are ok up to a week - will see how she goes the rest of today and tonight.

Hi all,

Saw the HV and then went out. HV was very nice, had an assistant with her who is coming out to see me next week, she reassured me that what I am feeling is perfectly normal, so am not going dolally! I think I do put a lot of pressure on myself to be the perfect mum, as I am a bit of a perfectionist, so that has a lot to do with it.
Have had a good day, went to see my friend and her baby, we had them both lying on their backs on a blanket. I was trying to take a pic of them but they kept staring at another friend! So asked her to move around to where I was, she got up and both sets of baby eyes were following her in sync - it was soo cute! And they stared at each other too

martha rolled over today - front to back.

my baby is growing up....

beanster millie is 100% BM, but fed by bottle at night. I only went to the doc as she wasn't ok anymore and had stopped eating and was straining a lot. Before that she was fine and happy

Bouncing - Am pleased your HV was nice and understanding and pleased you've had a good day today

Suey - Your poor dd but at least the suppository worked and she got it all out. My dd hadn't been for 3 days and this afternoon had a massive explosion. Lovely

Clara - Well done to your dd for rolling over . DD has got as far as rolling on to her side but soon rolls back again They do grow up so fast, maybe I'll consider number 3 after all, just need to convince dh

hello all

not been around for while as ds1 turned into a night monster but I think its back under control - also been wasting my time doing dream feeds as no improvement on ds2's sleep, well it was worth a try!

today a friend from work got killed on his way in - two children 1 and 3, can't believe something like that can happen - its made me fearful for everyone I love today....

xx

Insy - so sorry to hear about your friend that is so sad, those poor little children
Clara - well done to your dd! She is a very clever girl
Suey - your poor dd, guess it is a myth that bf babies don't get constipated! Hope she is feeling better now.

Oh my goodness insy that's awful and so sad about your friend Things like that do make you think about thing Hope you're ok.

Glad ds1 sleep is back on track and hope ds2 improves soon.

Sorry - bit of a hijack here re DD1 not DD2.

Had to take DD1 to GP last Friday night as she was in a lot of pain going to the loo and had wet her pants twice that day at school (she's almost 6) and it turned out that she had a UTI. Doc said quite unusual for kids her age.

Then yesterday in the paper the headline was warning parents in my area about a paedophile who has recently moved to the area after being chucked out from Australia because they found a cell in his back yard

Also my DD has been more "sensitive" recently - crying more easily and more reluctant to do things which involve strange people. She has also refused to go swimming with her class for the last 2 weeks because she "doesn't feel like it".

Anyway, I started getting a bit paranoid - so this morning I asked her if anyone was being nasty to her or making her feel bad etc - and she told me that a boy in her class "hurts people" (not her apparently), that the girls all avoid sitting next to him, and that he tells them that he's going to get a Swiss Army knife for his birthday and kill them all...

Was relieved in a way that my worst fears seem to be ungrounded - but do you think I should say anything to the teacher about this little boy? I have observed him being rough before and guess the teachers are well aware of that - but this seems another level again!?

Gosh buzzy at least not your worst fears but I would def talk to school sounds horrible

Buzzy - sounds rotten but I would speak with the teacher - you might find other parents have already said something - but also this little boy might need some help as his behavior might be hiding something wrong in his life?

Suey2 I think that's where we're heading today - after a fab few days yesterday from lunchtime onwards she just wasn't her usual jolly little self - only sleeping in short bursts, feeding loads more than normal and generally being really grumpy - this morning seems much the same. She's asleep now but I think I'm going to call the HV just be sure.

BT really good that you've got some support now from the HV etc - take it all steady and don't beat yourself up for every little thing that isn't 100% perfect

Buzzy = please tell the teacher....she might not know what this boy is saying and it sounds really nasty. How horrid! phone the school right now infact!!!

Not going out today anywhere special, going to do house work and then go shopping.
Been very relaxed so far, except I've told DH to buy another hoover as the one we bought last year to replace the broken one is rubbish!

Buzzy - I would definitely mention it to the teacher, your dd seems very frightened of this boy, and it sounds like he needs help.

what are we all doing for mother's day? S**, forgot my own mum!
Interviewing a nanny this afternoon. Kind of weird- don't really know what questions to ask other than logistical ones.

Oh my goodness Buzzy, glad it wasn't what you feared but a worry all the same. Your poor dd.

DS was just sick, as in sick that smelled of sick not just milk. We had just been for a brisk walk and on the seesaw with dd though so I think I may have shaken him about a bit too much!

Which hoover are you going for BT? I need a new one and really want a Miele but part of me can't justify it...

Suey must be hard, after all it's not just a job you are interviewing for. No experience of it myself but sure someone on mumsnet can help! Have you looked at the childcare threads?

Am very excited-a thread I started has made it onto discussion of the day! www.mumsnet.com/Talk/1375/486460?discoday=hp&rn=1204156923905 Little things eh?!

awesome thread clairey!

sorry to hear about your pal insy

Oh gosh I missed that post. So sorry Insy xx

Beanstermummy - hope u don't think I'm being nosey but would you mind telling me which AD you were on and if you had any side effects when you stopped taking them

Claraq - congrs to your little one on reaching that milestone.

DD2 in size 3 nappies now, crikey - she's growing fast and at 2 mths already grown out of her 0-3 months outfits.

furryfox - lol at thinking of no3. Our two daughters are our contraception whenever DH and I try to have time together one of them always needs us.

insy - sorry to hear about your friend.

buzzy - without a doubt tell a twacher about the boy. It's kids like that who can scar children emotionally for many years

hi all,

insy so sorry to hear about your friend. Those poor little children, makes me shiver

buzzy - I would speak to the teacher too and hope the boy can get some help as there's obviously something seriously wrong with him

clara- congrats on your DD rolling. DS tries but hasnlt done it yet

Bouncing - glad your HV was supportive - are you going to have regular visits from now on? I think they call them 'listening visits' - sounds like a great idea

Beanster - DS poos once evety 4 days or so and becomes a bit grumpy and farty the day before he poos! But think that is normal in BF babies. But if your DD isn't feeding and is not herself then I suppose Suey's route might be the way forward!

All good in the skidaddle household. DS is an absolute dream and DD seems to have settled down and accepted him now. Hmmm feel a bit of broodiness beginning to kick in... three would be nice, wouldn't it?!

thanks for messages - it still feels a bit sureal - to be honest I'm trying not to think about it as when I do I look at my two and cry, I love them so much I can't imagine what his dw and kids are/will go through

on a more positive children rearing note ds2 slept through last night 7pm and I woke him at 7am!!! I guess he knew I needed the sleep last night although I checked him loads (totally paranoid) and god my boobs hurt this morning - I think its a fluke but he might be warming up for some big sleeps in the future

buzzy - did you speak to teacher? hope they tackle it soon for dd

Hello all. I was on this thread briefly when it was an antenatal one and have looked at it a few times now that it is postnatal and wondered if I could join back in?? My dd is 11 weeks (born 13/12) and she is doing really well but I'm not doing so well. A couple of your posts about PND caught my eye (Amani and Bouncing Turtle)and I am a bit worried about myself. I saw my HV today to do a PND score and she reckons I am 'borderline' I am a bit worried about myself but didn't want to see the GP as some days I'm absolutely fine but others I feel a bit panicky and as if I can't cope. I feel a failure as my dd is a wee angel most of the time - she sleeps through the night and bf is getting better after a difficult couple of weeks - so I feel as if I have nothing to be down about. I hope you don't mind me offloading like this but it's seems easy to talk about things like this on MN.

Sorry this is so brief but got the millionaires shortbread cooling for tomorrow's toddler group!

Welcome back Louise of course you can re-join and congratulations on the birth of your DD. Sleeping through is fantastic as well (please do share any tips!) and she is obviously thriving. Please do post and vent and rant/share feelings on this thread, it's been a great tool for me too. Did the HV suggest anything after you did the questionnaire?

Insy well done to you and DS2!

Skid glad to hear your DD is settling down accepting DS, gives me hope that my DD will one day too!

Amani I'm having more good than bad days I'm sure, but I am already weighing up going back to work and not. It's the childcare really, I love the childminders we use but as some of the children there are a fair bit older I think DD has picked up some bad habits from them so I'm wondering if a nursery would be better this time round? Although DD will start pre-school in March next year and I would go back at the end of Dec/early Jan so I wouldn't like DD and DS to go to two different childcarers.

Goodnight!

Thanks Loucee. The HV suggested making an appointment with the GP but I don't feel it's necessary at the moment. She's going to phone me next week to see how I'm feeling and come out to visit if I want to talk. I spoke to my dh about it last night and he has been really understanding. As for the sleeping through the night, I don't think it's anything I've done - we've just been really lucky with our dd. She first started sleeping from midnight until 6 am when she was about 3 weeks old and gave us the shock of our lives cos I thought something was wrong when she didn't wake for a feed! We put her in her cot in her own room last week and started a bedtime routine - bath, last feed(s) upstairs in her room with soft lighting and she is going to bed a bit earlier.

louise - (and bt & amani) - i got a borderline pnd score too a few weeks ago. this is what has helped, dunno if it will be any help to you, but i hope so:
-bf counsellor telling me that while bf prolactin still shooting around body which can bring on low mood, anxiety and baby blues
-gp telling me that it isn't all that unusual to get pmt-type symptoms in sync with what would be menstrual cycle, even if bf
-starting to do hypnotherapy again (fast post-natal recovery CD by maggie howell): a bit tricky with a screaming babe, but have managed to adopt routine post-lunch of lying down with dd on side on my chest with my little finger in her mouth - she sucks and sleep, i visualise throwing pebbles in ponds and chucking all my worries away. bizarrely, after a fortnight of daily practice (?sp) i feel much, much better
-slow realisation that not finding motherhood to be the holy grail of fulfilment, satisfaction and all that jazz DOES NOT mean that it was all a huuuuuuuuuuuge mistake, but that for me, there needs to be more to life. And there's nothing wrong with that.