March 2007... soon they will be one!!

[kiwibella]

Well, Jordi is our first one year old.... they will be catching up soon .

I was tempted to write the subject with reference to NM .

hi muppet, hi piffle

Kitty - I hope you are ok and that whatever is happening is what you want to happen. Best of luck with it all - that sounds like a big life change you've got coming up. How long have you and your DP been together?

Foxy - do you really think he'll leave? I hope things work out.

TheBlonde - were you nervous before your DDs had the MMR? I know rationally that the science has proved it's ok, but I can't help worrying. Jordi is supposed to be having it on Wed, but I'm cancelling simply because we are going abroad on Saturday and I'm not having him having reactions when I'm in a foreign country. He's always got a temp etc after his other jabs so I think it makes sense, and will also mean by the time he gets to have it, will be more like the adjusted age he should be for it anyway.

Thanks for all the support on Jordi's sitting. We're off to the paed tomorrow, so we'll see. At the moment, he's being sick quite a bit when he's eating or having milk. He either chokes on something and it all comes up or it's mucous causing it, not always sure. I don't think it's a bug - yesterday he pooed five times but they were all sticky (sorry, TMI!) although today he did have a couple of loose nappies, but seems fine. Anyway, I'm just hoping he's not sick on the plane on Saturday as that will be a nightmare trying to clean up! I had planned to go out to the gym or possibly yoga tonight for the first time since before I had him, but he sicked up after one mouthful of tea (annoyingly, he'd been fine all day in creche and had eaten well, so then felt annoyed for having fed him at all!), and by the time I'd cleaned up, tried giving him some different tea, changed, milked etc, it was too late and I still hadn't eaten myself. One day I will manage to do some exercise. Don't know why I was thinking of it today as I was woken at 5.15...

oh dear foxy and kitty that is going to be hard. Aaw.

foxy can you win him round?

Kitty i do think you deserve some loving, i hope you can come to a good arrangement with your dp and can be friends.

Sponge i fly off on sunday. Not looking forward to the journey. I am looking forward to the trip a bit but mostly just want to get it over with! Glad you are going to have some time with dh when you go, hopefully it will be a lovely holiday.

Bethoo how is the pregnancy and is your dp being supportive?

Jay hope you go into labour tonight!

Diva i'm glad you are female. I think you make a great woman and would be much less interesting as a man. How can you even consider such a thing! you would be playing wow instead of mumsnetting! How dull that would be

Blimey - I'm sorry to hear about your relationship troubles foxy and kitty

I hope things resolve in a good way (well as good as they can kitty if that's decided and you think it's the best thing).

Callie - I've not read the whole thread because there's just too much to keep up with but I hope the paediatrician reassures you. Elliot is a long way off walking and he was term and turns one on Friday. I think he's okay, just a bit lazy I hope.

Urgh have a ton of washing up to do and need an early night so I'll say bye but didn't want to let this last page of posts go without saying something

Love to all of you - I miss you xx

Callie - DS had his at about 14 mths and then had his 2nd MMR before he turned 3. I would have waited with the 2nd one but there is a far amount of measles about here in London.

callie last time we were in pakistan we were all really ill coming back. The nappies couldn't hold it. I was trying to wash baby poo off my clothes in the air toilet. Was so bad i just took them off washed them in the tiny sink and put them on wet. So definately hope you have a puke (and poo) free flight!
Hasan just puked when i was trying to give him meds. He is burning up.
Been struggling with him today.
I'm so slow on this phone....
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hasan isn't walking yet either and i think one is still quite early for walking.

callie if the paed says anything that worries you tomorrow feel free to call on me. Dd had gross and fine motor delays of up to 18mths as well as major language issues. I've done all physio, ot, everything trust me!

Enjoy your trips you lasses. Rosy what ( as if what you just described isn't enough) do you hate about the trip? Do you get on ok with du over there? Will it be better Gor you all as a family? Focus on positives. Forget the other shit
jay that baby is exiting on Wednesday. I know I had a dream. And its bloody quick! You are warned...
mmr... Did it once with ds1= anaphylactic shock. Seeing as dd had measles at 13mths do given her delicate immune system AND ds1s not great reaction we decided no. And so Finn won't get it either.
Sorry about relationship woes...
wherevis kiwi?

Rosy -Hayden is not walking either and tbh that suits me just fine since it is a nightmare keeping my eyes on him as it is!! a while ago you could hold him up and he would walk holding hands but now if you stand him up he just stubbornly sits straight back down and crawls off at about 90 miles an hour . he has developed though as he can now get on and off my bed!!!

i am sorry to hear all about the relationship problems at the mo and i know that you will all make the right decision in which is best for you. sometimes you have to be selfish to be happy. i am quite happy being on my own and having the occasional visit for youi know what!! hmm hmm of course that may change when struggling with a newborn and a toddler!!

piffle-where i live isnt that bad,i mean,there are far worse places,its just that its small(to me),there is no work,and its very isolated so commuting isnt an option for most.alot of men work away.its also very backward with regards to sexual equality.(women who do work are nurses,teachers,or checkout assistants-plus they still have men only bars in some parts of the town{which dh thinks is perfectly acceptable as men may want to have a drink in peace after a hard days work.he said i was talking crap when i said it was no different to having whites-only bars})

i just get very claustrophobic as i'm used to being in a big city.

theblonde-no,dh doesnt work atm.

rosy-i think dh would be very happy for me to play wow instead of MNing.he says this place brings me down as i am trying to be a middle-class snob like most of the women on here,and i would be happier if i just accepted myself for who i am.i dont know where the hell me playing wow would fit in with that,as i know for a fact that i really do hate computer games.

i know i am a snob when it comes to talking about the inhabitants of this town though,as i just cant understand why women here are content to act like 1950's housewives..probably because no fecker has told them that the rest of society has moved on.

anyhow...dd2 went to pre-school this morning,just for an hour to see how she got on.i was almost in tears leaving her,she wasnt bothered though,and just played happily.she's still my precious little baby.shes going for a full session tomorrow

i hope everybody's illness goes away quickly.Elsie has another cold/sore throat and kept waking last night.

DD is not walking here, not even pulling up to standing yet. DS didn't walk til 15mths

Diva - men only bars didn't know they still existed!!
I have to say not working and playing PC games would drive me mad. I hope he's helpful with the kiddies

Hello ladies, so sorry I haven't got time to post replies to you all, but i have read and am sending positive vibes your way!

Thank you for you kind words. It's ok.
I've been wanting out for a long time but we've kind of limped on for the sake of the kids and hoped that things would get better, but they haven't.

We've had the usual rows and I've just decided I've had enough. The trouble is we have to sell this place and although dp says that it is a priority I can't see him doing much about it .
Still I tell myself when he winds me up that I'm already out of here! It makes it easier to be around him knowing that the there will be an end.

Foxy {{hugs}} to you. Did you know that there was a problem/ that you dh was unhappy? Please do ring/ email me. I'll try and ring you. Take care

Diva -i just cant understand why women here are content to act like 1950's housewives..probably because no fecker has told them that the rest of society has moved on.
LOL!!

Kitty/Rosy et al - he has told someone else that he has been very unhappy the last year and wants out. It may be retrievable - not sure. It is hard, both of us working with three small kids. It just feels like such a grind and we haven't had a holiday for 18 months but I fear his itchy feet may be more fundamental than just needing to talk/have a break etc.

We will have to see

HTF would I cope with three young children/job/mortgage? Doesn't bear thinking about really

Kitty I know you have been feeling like that for a while - do you feel relieved that you have made a decision? How has he reacted?

Would love a chat if you get a mo' at some point ... maybe could call over Easter hols or something

foxy - sounds like you could benefit from some couple counselling? Would dh be up for that? So easy to grow apart/forget about each other with little ones. Hope things improve for you i really do

kitty - sounds like you are sole carer for your lo's anyhow most of the time so practically speaking you're prolly on your own anyway on that score already. If you are thoroughly decided that this is the best way forwards for you then I'm pleased for you because you deserve to meet someone who appreciates you. This will free you up for just that

Rosy - your trip on the plane sounded ghastly but I was grinning to myself at the thought of trying to wash poo etc out of clothes in the plane loo! Poor you!

Hey... no news from Jay...

diva you are so funny. Isn't wow full of middle class nerds Why don't you move to a place you like? Maybe somewhere with good opportunities for you all, somewhere that stimulates you.
The thing about wow is it is challenging and your dh would have loads to put into an interesting challenging job. That is what i think about ds1 anyway.

Kitty thinking of you, hoping for change with minimum disruption and upset for you.

Piffle dh forgets how to speak english when he's home and i get very lonely. I find the whole thing really hard but i know its a good and important thing to do for dh and the kids and i'm sure i'll find consolations along the way. You are right-focusing on the positive is definately the best way to deal with it!

Hasan was so ill last night and today. So i've been dosing him up but he has been utterly miserable. He got all complicated, howling because dropped his spoon that sort of thing

foxy, maybe he is just not getting enough attention and so everything is out of proportion for him and maybe he could be easily snapped out of it? I hope so.

Rosy I am not sure - maybe he just wants another kind of life

Muppet we had conselling before once - a friend did it and it was great.

We have a wee holiday booked soon so I will try and talk to him while we are away from the normal chaotic routine of everyday life. Although I think we badly need some time together without the DCs TBH

Someone said earlier that we may have forgotten to look after our relationshop (Rosy?) and I think that is at the core of it (which is what happened before a few years ago)

We have been married 17 years!

foxy-it's that you heard thiat through someone else.has he not spoken to you about it?

sometimes when i talk to dh i feel im not being listened to but he seems to have taken alot of what i said the other week on board.the trouble is i still tiptoe around him,afraid to say anything and trying to keep the kids out of his way(wtf?)because he's a man.its totally irrational-the only time he gets stressed is when he can tell i'm stressed but wont let him do anything to help.he has far more self-control then me when it comes to getting annoyed with the kids.but i still have this fear and way of behaving left over from the 2 tossers i was with in the past

rosy-i'm not planning to move untill the kids are grown up.i moved away from here 3 time before and ended up coming back.now i am finally getting the help i need with my MH issues,plus the kids are at good schools,we have a nice house(well,it could be nice if i was into decorating and could be bothered to clean properly) and tbh it would be too much of a gamble to go anywhere else.

feck,dd2 is crying.

diva you are so funny. Isn't wow full of middle class nerds Why don't you move to a place you like? Maybe somewhere with good opportunities for you all, somewhere that stimulates you.
The thing about wow is it is challenging and your dh would have loads to put into an interesting challenging job. That is what i think about ds1 anyway.

Kitty thinking of you, hoping for change with minimum disruption and upset for you.

Piffle dh forgets how to speak english when he's home and i get very lonely. I find the whole thing really hard but i know its a good and important thing to do for dh and the kids and i'm sure i'll find consolations along the way. You are right-focusing on the positive is definately the best way to deal with it!

Hasan was so ill last night and today. So i've been dosing him up but he has been utterly miserable. He got all complicated, howling because dropped his spoon that sort of thing

oops i don't understand this phone
Foxy since diva won't move what about you? Move to ireland??

kitty, foxy, so sorry to read of a split and i hope it works out for you the way you want it to.

I had a huge row with dh today and he went back to work in such a rage. i feel terrible as not sure if i am being unreasonable, maybe i am just tired. this will sound crazy to those of you with bigger issues right now, but i wanted to make ds first b day cake ( i am a terrible cook, but wanted to decorate it etc) but dh has arranged that one of his chefs do it. i should be pleased as he said it will be less work for me. i just threw a total wobbly.

rosy, i know what you mean language, but it has its plus points- i just run a film in my head and put on a listening smile also mil has no chance

diva, thanks for the link. i am going to read up on it. your town does sound pretty quiet. lol re 1950's joke. why don't you write a book, sure it would be vv funny

Aw Foxy I think all relationships would be better with some time and effort put into them.
I always had a gauge as to how healthy my relationship was and that was: if I could spend time alone with my partner, would I want to, would we get on?
If the answer was yes then I knew that our probs were due to external stresses and not to do with intrinsic rot in the relationship.
For me now I don't fancy him anymore and I've lost respect.
We are getting on alright now, we are civil and can have chat. There's nothing nasty or acrimonious which is good, but any spark has gone. He is someone I share my house and children with and that is all.
I don't feel sad, I feel relieved that I can move on, although I know it will be an age before i can move out.

My lovely mother's help is leaving this week which is a real bugger as she's great and I like her. She's had to go unexpectedly and I've not been able to find a replacement so I am cacking myself .

Sponge, I don't think you were unreasonable. Of course you wanted to make the ist birthday cake,only a bloke wouldn't be able to understand that .

Rosy, dp baulks at going to Bangladesh. I think it would be great for the kids to see that they come from there too. However, dp is a neurotic mess and couldn't possibly spend any time away from home.

I must say that once when we went to visit his brothers and sisters in Newcastle they were very proud to show us a video of an animal being slaughtered for some important occasion. What got me was that the sound track to this was the Police's "Every little thing she does is magic" [hmm'].

Anyways, drunk too much gin, off to bed, night all xx

diva, are you angry at me? sorry if i have upset you

No sponge she is angry FOR you, silly