August 2007 - milk, mash or puree - take your pick and take cover!

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James - sorry, couldn't wait any longer... hope my link works...

Good on you Gill, go for it!

Gave James a segment of tangerine for after his dinner and he went absolutely nuts for it, strangled it and mangled it and ate it all up!

I hovered over him semi-panicking that he'd choke as he chewed the entire segment in his mouth for about five mins, but he was fine. He gave a big grin when it was all gone, and ate two more. New favourite here obviously!

Wish he fitted in the highchair though, as he won't ever stop bouncing in his bouncy chair whilst being fed and my carpets are suffering from the constant rain of gooey headbutted spoons.

Tasha, I'll keep everyone updated for you (she says, having not looked at her phone for three days) best of luck with the operation, do you know how long it'll take etc? Don't feel bad about trapping ds1's finger, I smacked J's head on the plastic bar as I got him out of his swing earlier, he's getting used to me apologising for damaging him!

Pink, ooh I had a personal trainer once, it was great because he was rather yummy, do you know who you'll be having the 121 training with?

My2weegirls, ooh that's typical! think of the lovely fresh air, excercise, calories burnt and all that guff though.

What? it's a low fat one, honest.

Hi Tasha - just to say hope all goes well with your little one.

Bad day so just short post. Hope you're all well x

Ds had an awful nappy earlier. It was a sort of moussy consistency and it leaked into his trousers. I didn't realise and put my fingers in it - yuk. It's typical that I've run out of washing tablets. I put the trousers in the washing machine anyway but they're still dirty.

Dh made ds cry himself to sleep while I was putting dd to bed. It was really distressing. He stayed with him the whole time but I really wanted to go in there any cuddle him. He's determined to make sure he doesn't get into bad habits like dd did. He had the nerve to tell me it was my fault that he wouldn't go to sleep because apparently I'd been rocking him to sleep! I've no idea why he thought this cos I haven't.

I'd love to come to Scotland my2weegirls. I've never been before but I've heard it's lovely. My doctors is also a long walk for me, especially when dd is walking - takes 30-45 mins each way cos our nearest surgery wouldn't take us. I had to go there ages ago to pick up a prescription and then to the nearby chemist but the chemist didn't have what I needed. It took us so long to walk there and back that I had to feed ds in the street. He was only a couple of months old then.

Sorry to hear you've had a bad day leifmum, hope tomorrow's better for you

Gill... noooo mousse-poo! sounds lovely. Can't your dh put dd to bed and leave you to deal with ds? I know the general consensus on MN is that this is too early to do CC (I know that's not what YOU'RE trying to do, btw)

I don't think men realise how distressing it is for a mother to hear her child cry. Dp and I had a row the other day because I had gone upstairs for a lie down because I was exhausted, leaving J having a nap and instructions for dp to feed him when he woke up. I heard James start crying and nothing from dp for a few mins so I began to think he was outside having a fag. I shouted down "are you there?" and he snapped at me (he was there with James, but I don't think he was actually seeing to him until I called down)

Shortly afterwards J started crying hysterically, and I ran down the stairs with no trousers on in a panic and practically yanked him out of dp's arms Dp was angry with me and accused me of not trusting him, but it wasn't that really I just didn't know why lo was properly crying when he should have been being fed. Turned out that instead of feeding him, dp was trying to get him to have a longer nap (which he will not do, ever) so lo was having a big freakout and dp was embarassed as he wanted to be able to say he'd done the impossible and got him back to sleep.

Men.

yeh could you imagine all us together in a coffee shop complaining like old women about how crappy our lives our lol wed be there for hours
james im not actually sure how long the op is
gill i done that with ds1 and i was on my own, i sat on the stairs rocking back and forth like i was going insane lol but it was the best thing i done honestly only lasted 3 nights.
sorry to hear you had a bad day leifmum hope tomorrow is better.
dp is tidying
nite nite

wat am i like, couldn't sleep didn't mean about crappy lives, thats just me, i meant our problems and stuff, im sure all your lives are brilliant and you are all enjoying being mummys not that im not, ill go to bed now nite

i am not gonna make it through the day peeps!!lol

big big hugs tasha don't think any of us would take what you said the wrong way.

leifmum - hope today is better

james - a black bin liner under his bouncy chair - or a plasticky table cover helps contain a bit of the mess. my dp tends to feed dd2 when she's upset - most of the time she just wants a change of scene.

gill - hope ds slept better and there was no more moussey poops.

my industrial shelving (for the playroom) has just arrived - hooray - i might soon be able to see the floor and dd's might be able to find their toys....

Ooh Tasha, I think all mothers get their fair share of crap, no-one's lives are perfect (and if they are they have NO PLACE on mumsnet! lol) don't worry!

If you can, nip down to boots/superdrug and buy yourself some Rescue Remedy (it's in a small yellow bottle near the medicines and vitamins) it's a herbal tincture which calms you down when you're upset or stressed, you just put a couple of drops under your tongue, and it works on kids or animals too. It's brilliant stuff, and it'll help you cope this weekend. You can think of it as us lot being there and giving you a cup of tea and a shoulder to cry on! And don't forget to text me too, I've topped up just for you. Best of luck xxx

aww you are all great do you think they would let me bring laptop our babysitter fell through for friday morning so i told dp last night that mum said she would do it and he said he didnt want to go up as he would have to get up too early just to stand and wait ???????? does he not care that im dreading this and will be pacing the floors, so guess ill be there on my own. ill have to get some of that stuff james and not just for the weekend lol need to get some strong sleeping tablets too. i got to sleep at 4am and up at 7am.
my2weegirls i havent seen the boys floor in weeks

What a selfish bastard (sorry) kick his arse and remind him whose son ds3 is!!

Well I might need some of that stuff myself, I filled in a job application for a data analyst last night and this morning I had a call from the agency it's advertised with asking me to go in today to register. I know that doesn't even guarantee I'll get an interview never mind the job, but still it's all getting a bit real.

I haven't even met the childminder I may be having depending on hours etc yet, or spoken to her on the phone, I have no idea what hours she is willing to do, and how much she charges (she's my friends mum) and I still feel sick at the thought of leaving James even for two or three hours, nevermind every day. I just have visions of him screaming for me and being frightened. Gill, how do you cope?

Hello everyone

Just quickly popping in to say hello . I do have a read every now and then to see how everyone is doing, but you lot are too chatty for me to keep up with everything.

DS2 still not sleeping very well. Generally in bed by 7.30pm, awake again at 2am and then wakes every hour until 7am when we all get up. We are all exhausted!!

Am I the only one not weaning yet?

Nice to hear from you Washy. Lovely pics.

ooooh aren't you good waiting on the food!! . We were all far too impatient!!

Last night ds woke at about 3 and was awake, not really crying, for about an hour (can't really remember - I was too tired). In the end dh went downstairs, again, so we could all get back to sleep. Felt like ages before ds finally gave in and I had to put my arm round him (we were both still laying down) and rock him back and forth towards me.

James - I don't know why but dh doesn't like taking dd to bed. I make him do it at least once every few weeks but when given the option, dd always chooses me and moans when dh takes her. You're right that men don't have the same reaction to hearing babies cry. Dh just kept telling ds to shut up which really annoyed me. To him it's an annoyance rather than upsetting. But if he insists on training him to go to sleep without being picked up then he's on his own. I'm just not willing to do it with a baby this small. I didn't even do it with dd til she was 2 so she was better able to understand what was happening and then it was the last resort. Babies must just think you've abandoned them.

Strange your dp said last weekend that you hadn't told him to feed James but when you told him to the other day he chose not to.

tasha - it's heartbreaking to hear them cry so much but sometimes it's the only option. When dd gets into a bad sleeping pattern it only takes a few nights to sort her out again. Good luck with the op. Hope you get a second wind soon.

Hi washy. Hope you're well albeit tired. Is he feeding every hour? You're not the only one not weaning. Loler is still exl bf.

James - James will be fine with a childminder. As long as you like and trust her then he will too. Even if he cries when you leave it will only be for a few minutes. I'm sure the childminder will be happy for you to phone soon after just to check he's ok. I know it sounds awful but, as long as he's being fed well and sleeping enough then he will be happy without you. He won't be frightened. It will probably be best to spend an hour there with him one day and then another day leave him for a couple of hours, just to get him used to her before you go back to work. When I was choosing childminders I didn't even consider them if I had any incling that dd wouldn't have been well looked after and happy. When I found the 2 that she went to I had a good feeling about them and I knew I didn't have to worry about dd while I was at work. I don't think I ever spent any time worrying that she was ok. I'm a born worrier (inherited from my mum) so it just goes to show that I had full trust in them.

Ahhh thank heavens I'm not the only one then. I am still exclusively bf too! Was beginning to think it might just be laziness on my part. DS2 just isn't interested in food yet.

He does have milk when he wakes hourly in the early hours but more to resettle himself than for hunger I think. I just put him in with us when he wakes around 2am as I am so tired. DH isn't that keen on having him in bed, but we have a huge bed so he can sleep well away from DS2 and me .

I am a big believer in having a good bedtime routine too. We have done this with both boys successfully (so far), e.g. dinner, milk, bath, story, bed - we just need to work on the resettling at night. I do tend to jump up immediately for DS2 when he cries as I don't want him to wake DS1 in the other room. Poor DS1 has suffered enough with lack of sleep since DS2 was born!

I highly recommend those dream show projector type things to help if you struggle to get them off to sleep in their cot at bedtime - ours worked everytime for DS1, he even got the hang of pressing the button himself when he woke up in the night. (I MUST put new batteries in ours and give it a whirl with DS2).

Ooops sorry such a long post

loler, just wanted to say hi! Had a look at your profile pics and your boy is GORGEOUS! Had Niamh weighed yesterday and she's right bang on the 50th centile, SUCH a contrast to her big brothers! Take care X X

i cant believe that happened i wrote a big long post and lost it now ds3 is crying

Oh I hate it when that happens tasha!

Just remembered, DS2 was grasping at food a couple weeks ago and I gave him some banana to suck, which he seemed to enjoy. Since then has shown little interest in food though, so that is why I haven't bothered. I am keen to do BLW with him.

its crap Washersaurus and im only getting on again now and cant remember wat i said, hope you have a better night tonightand im not going to wean the wee man for a couple of weeks and not looking forward to it as dinner time is hard enough feeding one dc and blowing the other dc's food without adding another lol
james im pretty useless when it comes to sitters and work as i havent worked in over 3 years and dp still being asshole
gill it was def the hardest and most testing thing getting ds1 sleeping through, is your dp set against leaving it a bit longer? my ds1 was 8 months and took 3 very long nights but then i suposse it would be better doing it sooner for you working?

Oh cripes, I hadn't even started to think about that tasha! DS1 is fairly high maintenance at mealtimes on his own, lord only knows what both of them together will be like .

Hi guys,

well, lo is asleep upstairs in his cot. He took a while to go off and I ended up cuddling him in my bed because I didn't feel up to a fight (headache) but popped him in his cot once asleep and he seems settled.

I appear to be meeting up with some ladies I met online in my town on friday for coffee. And what's more is, I organised it! There's a woman with a 6 month old ds, one with an 8 month old ds, and another lady with a 4.5 and a 2 yr old ds who I might be doing some babysitting work for if we get along. Quite looking forward to it. Yay for non-antisocial banana!

Sorry for the relatively short post for me, but I feel like poo. Glad to hear all is well, Washy! Night xxx

Hello Washy - I too am being lazy - as said I'm still excl BF. DS2 had a taste of a mr whippy (sod the organic purees straight to the good stuff ) a couple of weeks ago but he doesn't seem too interested in anything apart from big brother and sisters toys (he so wants to be moving!). Your post about sleeping pattern seems to be the exact same as mine. He seems to just want company from about 3 onwards - sometimes he dozes off often he doens't! - Mum my told me to get him out of the habit - HOW!?

Tasha - good luck for the weekend. Will be thinking of you.

Banana - good on you - hope you meet some lovely new friends. We love you so just be yourself and they will to.

i know Washersaurus complete nightmare, ill prob have 2 seperate meal times until ds2 can feed himself, ohh the joys.
james thats really great, good luck and echo loler We love you so just be yourself and they will to.....ok thats me off to hosp in morn so talk to you all soon x