March 2017 (2)

[purpleviolet1]

Second thread!

I can't believe he slept through for nearly two months - the only thing that's changed is the milk allergy. Hopefully things will settle down. Every inch of my body is aching !

I would take the dummy away. It's causes more wake ups then helps the reflux iyswim

It will take a few nights /week to learn to self settle without it

Lots of patting and shushing

I use a grow bag and thin sheet as dd kicks about and seems to get foot thro bar of cot 🙄

So she's kinda tucked in and sleeps well (sorry) it's like she is snug

She is restless if no grobag so yes use at naps as well at night time

She also had a snuggly and reaches for it and knows it's sleepy time - maybe introduce something

purple
Oh dear, sounds tough! I am inclined to agree with Blondes, I think it would be better not to reintroduce the dummy, but I guess there's only one more night until Monday, if you'd prefer to stick to the sleep consultant's advice...

Blondes
Thank you, yes we put him down for a nap in a sleeping bag, and he has been sleeping for more than an hour without stirring, which is unusual for him! We're kicking ourselves for not putting him in it last night. Oh and I've ordered a bigger one because we only have 0-6 month sizes and they are pretty snug!
We have a comfort object as well, it's a muslin with silky edges and he does seem to like it, just as well it's breathable because it does sometimes end up over his face

Oh and please don't feel guilty or apologise for having a good sleeper. You could all be sleep deprived and it wouldn't make my sleep deprivation any more bearable! Plus you're thinking straight which means you can give us sensible advice

I had a really bad night, both dd and ds were waking up every 2.5 hours, and wanting a bottle. They go back to sleep immediately after eating which suggests to me that maybe they are actually hungry. I dont know what else to do. I have tried feeding them more than 6oz during the day but they spit up. I wish they will take a dummy but I try every day and they both spit it out, dd is less tolerant.

Dh has them at the moment, and I've just slept for four hours but now I need to express. Do you think introducing baby porridge as last meal in the evening will help sustain them?

Not sure abacha as I don't have any experience but I have heard that to be true. Could be worth a shot?

Yes agree blondes and names. Going to do things slightly different tonight. Think the aim is just to keep him sleeping however we manage.

Ds refused the millet this morning but I think he was overtired. Napping now in my bed next to me and hoping it will be a long one so we can both feel a little refreshed.

Blondes what sort of cotton sheet do you use to tuck her in? Do you tuck it in at both sides of the cot? Ds was breech and he often has his legs in the air when he wakes during the night. Could be a contribution to his wake ups

I thought they were cotton but apparently flanette

Cot / Cot Bed Pink Flannelette Flat Sheets Baby Nursery Bedding Soft Touch Pack of... www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0088ORVSE/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_c_api_8waRzb82HQC5N?tag=mumsnetforum-21

Obv pink :)

Yes tucked in both sides. I have it opposite way to usual sheet would go

Lots is tucked under mattress at bottom

think i feel guilty that dd sleeps so well when you and some others i know around dd age are suffering

many of my friends when had babies and i gave them advice, which they ignored lol

they said its diff when own and anyone get get someones else baby to sleep , dig at my job, and wait till a mum etc etc

ive done the same as i have with a clients baby as i did with dd, started with a routine at 3w and left her to self settle - yes she had a slight moan but pat and shush and def no rocking, tho also no cull pelt crying either

dont even go on that thread about a cm leaving a baby to self settle/sleep ........

im sure dd with be a pita over stuff later on and possibly not sleep at 9mths/12mths etc

happy to give advice and help with ideas etc but dont want you all to think im being pushy/big headed iyswim

I don't know where I've gone wrong blondes, he had the dummy but used to sleep without at night and could lay him down and would nod off himself. Slept through night at 13 weeks once we got onto the nutramigen and omeprazole. It's just this time he has taken a reaction he started using the dummy a lot and everything gone haywire

Blondes
No I don't think you're being pushy or bigheaded I listen to advice and use what works for me, and I'm sure others are the same.

purple
FWIW I don't think you've done anything wrong. I've been wondering whether I've done anything wrong and it always makes me feel a million times worse! I've come to the conclusion that babies are unpredictable and sometimes a mystery despite our best efforts to understand! We're all just doing the best we can

Can you tell I've got to the point of exhaustion where I'm sort of past caring?!

blonde I agree with name I don't think you are being pushy. I'm also exhausted, hopefully this is a phase that will end soon. I'm willing to try any tips within my comfort zone.

From next week my Dh will be around more and hes pretty hands on so I'm looking forward to that.

I'm so sorry so many of you are having such a tough time! Name I think you're spot on, babies are unpredictable and do what they want! I agree that sometimes trying to work out what you may have done wrong can just make you feel worse.

I had a chat with DH yesterday, I was upset and he made me tell him why (I was bottling it up and saying I was ok because that's what I do). I feel a lot better for getting it off my chest and I know a lot of it is just me overreacting a bit. There's just so much on my mind atm that I think I've just let it all build up.

I hope everyone has a better night tonight - fingers crossed for you all!

Awww Blondes she looks so cozy. My DD very rarely has her grobag on these days. She's just too hot in it. She would have wet hair on the back of her head sometimes.

Awww shucks. Thank uou. I probably pushed dd more coz of my job. If I couldn't get my own dd to sleep then can't be a good maternity nurse iyswim

I've had countless jobs babies and twins and all have slept through 11/7 by 14w and 7/7 20w but all have been in a routine that I put them in from early on

Mixture of ebf - formula and mixed - expressed etc

@purple you havnt done anything wrong - any baby that has reflux colic constipation cmpa etc it's much harder

Tho usually once medication and diff milk then you see huge improvement - sorry you aren't yet :(

Bad habits are easy to get into as at the time you so tired so pick the easy route for you as a family whether rocking co sleeping etc but it's later on the probs start when you or baby needs to stop whatever you are doing and they have got used to it

Usually takes a week to counter action the problem tho will often end up crying and stressed tho there is no need to cio

Controlled crying and returning every few mins and pat and shush work wonders as does gradual retreat

Sorry I keep forgetting to post pic of cup, just trying to rest while feeding DD lying down so will sort it later.

Thanks for the well wishes. I agree with everyone re. Sleep deprivation etc. Even without it I find I am exhausted and worn out though, and that's with a relatively easy baby! I think being responsible 24/7 for a tiny human who is completely dependent on you is always going to be an incredibly wearing job no matter how rewarding. And if that baby has any extra issues it is all the harder. That's why I was praising us all as we deserve to recognise that and be kind to ourselves need to listen to own advice

Purple, my DD has reflux and although we get a few days respite each time the omeprazole is increased, it soon goes back to 'normal' unfortunately. I find it incredibly physically difficult as I'm still ebf and she will arch powerfully and randomly during and after feeds which is hard to juggle! I also find it hard to deal with the constant changing - of both of us - when she projectile vomits down us. I have cmpa (one reason I wanted to ebf for as long as possible in case DD has it) and I know how awful even a trace if it in my food can make me feel and how ill I get, so I really feel for your LO. I think once it is all out his system you'll find things will change for the better.

Re. Grobags - we are using these regularly now as they help to settle DD and are nice and snug. I put DD in a long sleeve baby gro (no legs) and just the Grobag as otherwise she also gets too hot carol, but I find if she doesn't have the long sleeves her little arms get really cold! We also have a 1.5 tog for warmer nights.

She's gorgeous blondes.

I'm really bloody thankful to say DD has been sleeping through again since we went away. It must have been a growth spurt .
She has a bottle around 5/6 am then back to bed then breakfast 7.30-8.30 .

Ah you've all made me feel better, it's a comfort to know we're not alone in feeling the way we do, isn't it?

Thanks for the tip about Grobags 100years, I think the lightest one we have is about 2.3 tog, so I'm just putting DS in one layer with long sleeves to keep his arms warm as you say! We'll see if it helps tonight - fingers crossed

Also I have been reconsidering nursery now. I think I'm going to try working at night etc for a while . I feel guilty and quite torn . I didn't leave my eldest for the first year .

Thanks for the support ladies. It's helping to keep me sane!

I've just got into bed. DS settled at 7. Hope I can get some sleep.

Ok DD in grobag and sleepsuit no vest. She gets cold feet so couldn't bare not having anything on them. Her head always feels hot to me. No temp just think she takes after her daddy he's hot all the time. Had to put her in her longer grobag tho as the smaller ones are too short, well just the right length but she couldn't point her toes so had to go up a size for the length. Looks funny in her Moses (she looks like the mermaid in the film Splash when she takes a bath, tail hanging over the end lol )

Hahaha Carol so cute !

I need to give the grow bags a try, sounds like they work a treat. Worrying I'm turning into my mother "we didn't have that in my day!"

Aw MotherofA it's tough isn't it. I've been thinking if evenings or nights might work for us. You feel guilty whatever you do!

Good luck purple. I'll probably be awake later if you do have disturbed night and want to post! Should probably get an early night but enjoying the peace and quiet for now.

Mother
FWIW I've been feeling emotional about going back to work and putting DS in nursery, but he'll only go for 2 days a week (I work 3 days and DH will have him one of those days), and he is such a curious, sociable baby that I think he will really enjoy the stimulation! If you're happy with the nursery you've found, I don't think there's any reason to feel guilty. Easier said than done I know, but most of need to earn money to provide for our children and we're just as good parents as those who give up paid work to be SAHPs.