Mugabe Nights: sometimes you wanna go where everybody knows your (sleep deprived) pain!

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New thread ladies!
Buenos are still free, the bar tab is still open and you can leave your healthy living resolutions at the door!

Photo shoot was yesterday. It was ok. Bit scary. She sent me a sneak peek. LOT of boob! Slightly freaked that she'll be using them in her portfolio and for the Fed is Best campaign. Eeek! You can't see my face though. I'll get a look at the full lot in a few weeks.

Wonder Weeks never worked for dd1. She was no respecter of the books. Rule breaker!

We're off to a birthday party this afternoon. Party frocks at the ready!

Ds's first nap this morning was a grand total of about 7 minutes, and he's been a tired and whiny pita for the rest of the day. On the plus side he ate a fair bit of homemade humous, though I was still scraping it out of his neck rolls hours later, he's a chunkster alright.

Our cats have started circling the high chair as soon as it appeared. They were rescue cats so we don't know about their early life but they give me the distinct impression they've seen a high chair before. As we're largely vegetarian they're going to be pretty disappointed.

Hello, do you think I could creep back into this group, please? I was around quite a lot on the antenatal board, but never really got going here. I have been lurking on-and-off, but never really getting round to posting.

DS2 will turn six months next weekend, and like some of the other babies on here, seemed to get stuck in the four month sleep regression, and has yet to re-emerge . Currently only seems to sleep at night if on top of me.

Effin, our house rabbit used to sit under DS1s highchair. We had to be very careful as we didn't think boiled eggs (which he seemed to like) were very good for herbivores .

Welcome equimum I too have a baby who sleeps on top of me all night - anything for a sleep though - it will be an absolute luxury when I can sleep alone, curled up on my side

I am addicted to M&S chocolate, fudge and toffee hot cross buns - just had one warmed up to kick start my busy day!! DH left a message (he leaves really early for work and loves leaving messages so he doesn't have to face the moaning ) asking me to 'pop' to the bank - our nearest branch is in the next town - not exactly easy to 'pop' there with baby and toddler - will have to go after school run then try to rush back for my Mumafit class, followed by dental check-up for all, tea, football and swimming - I may well have to eat the whole packet of buns to keep me going

Not such a great night. Had to co sleep to get any sleep as she wouldn't settle, poo arrived around 3am, 6 am tomorrow would follow the pattern. Usual can't get back to sleep post feed rubbish. I don't sleep well co sleeping as I really need to snuggle into my duvet cocoon to get comfortable. I also wake up sore from keeping still.

Dog is loving blw. He's not (has never) been allowed in the room when we eat at the table but is called in to hoover up afterwards!

Lately she's decided to hate baths. Have tried temperatures from 34 to 36 by 0.5 degree increments - no variation in reaction. She used to love them. Get a rigid plank using the end of the baby bath. Was planning to take her swimming but it has not happened. Not sure it ever will at this rate.

Went to a musical steps class yesterday. Baby music based on Kodaly / Dalcroze / Suzuki principles so suits my musical snobbery! Lots of singing for parents and games with bells, claves and finger puppets.

I've found the wonder weeks book interesting from a general developmental point of view - how they learn, why things like separation anxiety kick in when they do - newly mobile, don't stray and get eaten. .. but actually timing "leaps" doesn't correspond.

I'm getting really tired at the moment. Housework is at clothes to wear, food to eat (or F's version, food to wear and clothes to eat) and basically hygienic levels already, had no hot water since Monday (heating fine) making washing up tedious, and I feel really guilty if my DH feels the need to do something around the house as I want him to rest. Also still achy legs post flu type bug last week and feeling guilty about how rubbish dog's walks have been. Don't want to get into competitive tiredness territory as I have been having sleep (and still feeling the guilt re some grumps at DH in the last month for competitive tiredness) and F's sleeping better than many. Unfortunately she's sleeping better than me!

Welcome equimum - we seem to have been in this sleep regression since before Christmas! I think we just had 2 weeks of decent sleep in November and got a bit carried away with excitement

effin I've officially given up on J napping - it's so erratic, I just embrace it when he does. It also seems to make naff-all difference to how much he sleeps at night.

random J also eats his clothes - still not bothered by food at the moment though. We've been offering him a few bits and he puts them in his mouth when prompted, but don't think any really goes in.

Fairly quiet day today - I need to get some blood tests done and am going to try and make it to yoga, which I've missed the last few due to being ill. Still not right, but am feeling better - woke up starving, which is always a good sign. Just need to unlatch sleeping baby first!

I'm very relaxed about co sleeping. Dd2 sleeps in between us and I have a duvet over me, I have pillows too. I sleep pretty well. Mostly if she wants a feed she pulls at my vest, out pops a boob and she just latches on herself. I feed her like that lying on my side and I barely wake up. Almost always fall asleep again before she is finished.. She sleeps on me in the evening while I watch to or read or what have you, into the sidecar cot for the first part of the night and then in between us. This was the system with her sister too. Works fine for us.

I've no idea what naps she has. Depends on the day. Usually she'll have a long two hour nap at some point in the afternoon but only if we're at home and not busy. Entirely of her own volition. I had no part in training her to do this.

We had a lovely party yesterday. Both girls in their good frocks. Dd2 has eleventy million lovely (impractical) frocks to wear this size. It's a race against time to get her in them. She's not six months yet but wearing clothes dd1 wore at 14 months! Folk visiting this morning too so must stick her in another beautiful dress. Actually must crack on.

Happy hump day!

Hectic morning here, managed to get DS2 up and out by 8am so I could get into work for next year's staff photo. He was very good watching all the action. He does not like to be held by anyone though, he doesn't cry but pushes away and reaches for me. Hope he gets a bit better with this, makes me a bit worried for when I do go back to work.

Hi equimum co sleeping here, whatever gets us both the most sleep!

I have a duvet over me for co sleeping and naps here have no structure. Really depends on what we're doing. Generally it's 2 naps a day, a morning and a late afternoon. Bed at 7ish.

for you randoms You have clothes to wear and food to eat, the other housework can wait. When we had no kitchen we used paper plates and just recycled them after. You need rest too.

Agree with those with pets, DDog is loving blw. Toast, crumpet, philadelphia sandwich she loves it all!

Happy Wednesday!

Seems about right!

coconut that is brilliant!!

Hi everyone. Sorry, I can't remember who's said what now!

to all those struggling with sleep. We are too. We're having to Co sleep after the 2nd feed of the night. I suppose it's better than not sleeping at all, but it's not a proper sleep.

I'm on my 3rd period since having DD and I'm agony. So I'm feeling pretty sorry for myself today! I did make it to DDs music class though which was fun :)

DD had her first solid 💩 yesterday! Dh was oddly excited about it haha. We tried her with avocado today, but it seems she's allergic to that too!

Crafty- think dS is allergic to avocado too which i find odd as it's always mentioned as a first food.

Yes to obsessiy checking out ds's poo to see the solids come through I'd never have believed I'd do that if someone had told me pre baby!!

Coconut that is absolutely spot on!

Hiya equimum I remember you from antenatal thread.

Loves you definately deserved l those buns that's one busy day.

I've forgotten what else sorry hose I've missed im just doing a quick post then trying to get to sleep early ish for once!

Had a lovely day today Dh was off for the first time in two weeks. We went to harvester for breakfast and dS sat in his little travel chair and made full use of the buffet continental breakfast despite having cleared a whole half sachet of adult porridge before we left the house! He loved the little pancakes (but naughty but never mind), melon, pineapple and toasted English muffin but the pineapple set his skin off again! Think it's the acidity. Then nipped shopping for a bag for him for nursery and a new sleeping bag (Cookie Monster one too cute) and other bits and pieces. Had him weighed (17lb 13oz) near to 50th percentile now whereS used to be 9th- weaning obviously agrees with him! Then to the ILs for tea. DS has been in the loveliest giggly mood all day and just melts my heart everytime he smiles at me or laughs his head off at nothing! Need to remember days like today when I'm fighting him to sleep in the middle of the night and the anxiety monkeys come calling.

What a blooming lovely post lily. You are so right about the need to remember days like this when the bad ones come calling 🙂

Welcome equimum! I remember you from ante-natal. Did we have our boys about the same time? Ds was the 27th.
I would LOVE a house rabbit!

Not much to repost here - sleep was better last night, but still crap.
I'm starting to panic about how I'll manage back at work if things haven't improve. Some days I don't feel safe to drive, let alone actually function in the real world. The next 2.5 months better bring some good nights.

I hope everyone else is ok? Almost the weekend 🙂

Morning all, busy few days as DH had some time off work so nice to spend some time as a family and have a bit of a break myself. Welcome back equimum!

Loves that hot cross bun sounds amazing, too bad there are no m&s nearby here! Did you manage to make it to the bank along with everything else?! In awe!

Random hope the bath-hating is just a phase. DS seems to go in phases of liking and then hating things (like the baby gym, nappy changes etc) so hopefully the phase is short lived for you!

Tindel yes to naps making no difference to night sleep! I went through a phase making sure DS wasn't too overtired and got enough naps etc-made no difference and just caused me more worry so I'm just going with the sling naps for now when he feels like it!

Coconut so true!

Lily it's so nice to be able to appreciate the happy times-baby giggles are seriously the best!!

Lily it sounds like you had a lovely day. Absolutely keep remembering the good times. Sounds as though weaning really is suiting your little one - are you BLW or purring, or mixed?

Yes Frolic, DS was born on 28th. I remember both of us feeling like we were going to be the last people on the thread (along with Joskar if I remember correctly.

I'm trying really hard not to obsess about DSs sleep. I remember trying all sorts of nap adjustments etc to try to make it work (and it never did). DS2 naps on the go nine times out of ten and seems to have decided that he has a right to be I our bed. To be fair, I would probably be a put out if I was put in a 'cage' on my own but could see a warmer, cosier sanctuary, with company .

Having a lovely day here too. My mum and dad are visiting and the help is sooooo nice. Our kitchen is spotless!!

Currently just trying to get DS to bed. Sleep is still awful but hey ho. Am v lucky with ds - he is such a chilled baby, eats well, potters round in the pram if I have stuff to do but sleep is just terrible. Naps are terrible, night sleep terrible, settling for bedtime terrible. But lily you are so right about remembering the giggles and smiles and hugs when you want to through them out with the rubbish get them back to sleep in the Middle of the night.

equimum welcome. DS loves eying my bed up too!!!

Had one of those days today where I just didn't want to be a mum any more. Since getting his first two teeth through, DS has started biting my nipples towards the end of a feed. They are sharp little bastards too. I scream and he cries, but, you know, I still have to feed him. And this evening he refused to sleep instead screamed at me for 2 hours. Think it may partly be constipation, compounded with over tiredness. Thankfully DH came home, took him off me, gave me wine and have ds a bath. Ds now fast asleep in bed. But I tend to find that if he's overtired when he goes to bed at night, he wakes up far more often for the first three hours or so. Guess we may be in for a rough one tonight. Although I'm coping better with sleep, sometimes the cumulative effects just seem to pile up, and I just want some time off from being a mum.

Anyway, enough of my pity party, I have and .

Nap wise, DS usually sleeps for 40 minutes every 1.5-2 hours, and is a mardy git if he doesn't. It's a bit of a rollercoaster of about 4 mini naps a day, but kinda works as long as I don't need him to be awake for too long.

joskar hump day?

random insomnia is the worst, it's such a cruel joke. I have some drugs from the GP that help a bit with getting back to sleep - a v mild anti depressant that's ok to take while bf.

Ds is still crammed into the too small Co sleeper crib, and I slide him over to feed and then slide him back again. But after the 4 am feed I often just fall asleep with him in bed, so we fully Co sleep for the last part of the night.

coconut v true dat!

frolic thinking how I'll cope if things don't improve is what really gives me the heebie geebies. I can deal with one day at a time but I don't want things to be the same as this in another 3 months.

Hi equimum.

Chuck us one of those buns loves

Evening ladies. So since the weekend DS has been quite a handful. Don't know if it's a wonder week, teething, separation anxiety or what but he is so clingy I can't even leave the room to get his lunch without him freaking out and properly crying. Cot naps are a massive fight for just 35 mins sleep but if he doesn't sleep he gets so grumpy. He's trying to crawl but can't yet and keeps getting annoyed. One minute we get giggles and I take one step away and he really gets upset. He's decided to hate baths and nappy changes when we're out. Odd. It's all so intense. Might be using the carrier a bit more!!

Faith's been grumpy today but nowhere near as grumpy as I am with MIL. Biopsy tomorrow for DH, been coping fine admittedly with occasional what ifs creeping in. MIL decides to discuss time off work, short answer is we don't know, repeats question so DH loses his temper and goes through the rather unpleasant differentials list in slightly more detail. She still fails to get the message, I flounce out of the room slamming the door - hope it survived the experience - only got fixed this morning!

Still seething as that's slightly more positive than the other options - I really do not want to be a single parent before Faith's 1 - can't think straight enough to reply to anyone - sorry. Will probably appear later when I just need the distraction.

On the plus side boiler is fixed - bloody limescale - so nice long shower coming soon!

Oh blimey random I'm so sorry everything is crappy. Sometimes people just don't think before they start sprouting off. Thinking of you all.

Evening all!

DS2 is 6 months tomorrow, where has half a year gone?! He's doing ok with weaning, not eating much but definitely swallowing some. He still loves his milk though, havent really noticed him dropping any feeds. Is anyone giving vitamins? Had some vitamin d drops in one of the free packs, should I be giving them now?

for you crafty Haven't had a period so far, wonder if it's because DS is such a milk monster. Hope you feel better today.

Sounds a lovely family day lily.

Don't panic frolic these babies change their ways so often, they just like to keep us guessing! Back to the full fat coke and chocolate for now though.

Googled hump day, means either Wednesday or a day a couple have scheduled to dtd!

and for you random. Thinking of you.

Nothing is definite - been trying to avoid worst cases tbh...

Thanks. Bought montezuma choc today as free from suspicious substances!

Frolic sorry sleep is still crap same here! We went through a few weeks where it was much better then since the teeth emerged it's gone to pot again. Totally hear you on needing it to be better before return to work but as I have 3 days left I really can't see that happening!!!!! I really don't know how I'm going to cope with a 5.30 alarm when I've been awake most of the night. Plan is to go to bed at 9 and DH be 'on duty' for any murmurs till 1am and then anything after that is mine. I can't see me getting to bed on time though as that was the plan tonight and look at me here typing!!

Equimum we started out blw but dS got quite annoyed with the food not going in and I was spoon feeding things like yogurt anyway so we are doing both pretty much now. No purrees though we just mash with a fork whatever were having- he can handle pretty big chunks now chews it and everything! He is already pretty good at using the spoon himself so I tend to feed him about half his meal so he's not starving and then hand him preloaded spoons he does himself. Also he has finger food type bits with most meals.

Kbro- our babies sounds very similar DS is generally very easy going and chilled but naff at sleeping too!

Effin- eeeek to BF with teeth! DS but my finger the other day and that was painful enough! Sorry you had a tough day they are such a rollercoster these babies aren't they.

Randoms sorry things are so hard at the moment I don't think anyone could blame you for slamming doors you are coping with a lot at the moment.

Coconut- I've been wondering about vitamins too I meant to ask hv the other day and totally forgotten!

Fingers crossed for some zzzzzz