Mugabe Nights: sometimes you wanna go where everybody knows your (sleep deprived) pain!

[mzzzf]

New thread ladies!
Buenos are still free, the bar tab is still open and you can leave your healthy living resolutions at the door!

[MaGratgarlik1983]

Good luck kbro! DS has been a grump monster since his first one cut the other day and so much worse the last couple of days now the second one is coming through. Not sure if he's got the regression as well or if it's the teething but he's struggling to sleep poor mite. Daytime napping is a fight so he gets so overtired. Drooling Everywhere! Come on toothy pegs!!

[kbb23]

Waaahhh im back at work tomorrow. I was really hoping that i would win the lottery last night so i didnt have to go back.
Fatty what a shit time for you. Hugs. But excellent weight loss news.i really need to start eating better now

[mzzzf]

Fuck me sideways. Just had the MAMMOTH of all pukes. Feeding DD to sleep as per norm and think to myself "wow you must've been hungry you've smashed that 8oz bottle". No sooner had I finished the word bottle and BOOM! A milky Vesuvius erupted all over me, the bed and her face!
Had to bloody bath her, a wet wipe would have drowned in the deluge! Haha! Now starting all over again for bedtime. I'm guessing I'm in for a fun night tonight!!!

[mzzzf]

Good luck tomorrow kbb!

[MaGratgarlik1983]

Gah mzzf hope she's ok. Good luck with work kbb

[Frolicacid]

Just popping in to say good night. Like every other night at the moment, Ds wants to sleep around 8, but also wants to catch up on all the feeding he misses in the day due to being nosy. As a result I've spent all evening in the bedroom with him on and off the boob. I really shouldn't complain, but I'd kind of got used to having an hour or so to spend with dh before bed.
He's had a great time today being entertained by his lovely cousins and then playing in the jumperoo. Hopefully that means we'll get another good sleep. I'm going to try and make myself go to sleep earlier tonight instead of reading crap online.

Good going on the tooth kbro! Ds has been teething for weeks now and still nothing.

Good luck tomorrow kbb.

Oh no mzzf. Puke drama at bed time is the worst. I hope she's ok.

Night, night mugabeans. I can't believe another week starts tomorrow - they are going way to fast.

[Lilydreams]

Yay new thread! Had a mega busy day at SIL's baby shower- in excess of 30 people in MiL's house!! DS was with me as all my babysitters were there and DH was at work so although it was fun and she had an amazing day which is what counts I feel absolutely drained after the noise levels there and having DS with me I didn't really get to join in that much. He had one 20 minute nap all day as it was too loud but kept being a smiley charmer bless him until we got home and then lost his shit completely after his bath. Poor sod.

So briefly...

Good luck tommorrow kbb!!! I'm sure it will be better than you think.

Mzzf I agree completely that how Joksar described experience with DD1 is how I feel with DS- I feel like I've wasted a lot of my mat leave worrying, being anxious and crying so I vow the last 7 weeks will be enjoyed completely. Hope 2nd bedtime goes ok for you.

Magrat- I think we should ask giraffes to do a spell for our Lo's teeth to come through too- DS has gone through no less than 5 dribble bibs today and I think part of his bedtime melt down was tooth pain as well as tiredness but they are still get to show themselves!

Fatty- sorry your so stressed that is a lot of weight loss but yay if you wanted to lose it anyway- would that count as a silver lining?

Sorry for those that had crappy nights last night- it's extra frustrating when they've shown you that they can do it isn't it! DS did 2030-0130 and then 0220 to 0410, 0420, 0430, 0440 and then 0600 then 0645 to 0730 when DH slammed the front door and woke him FFS!!!!! So a 5 hour chunk to start with then a mess- I don't get it!! Ah well try again tonight!

[Lilydreams]

Xposts frolic- DS misses out on feeding in the day being nosy too!! I'm convinced of I didn't offer him a bottle in the day he would actually go all day without! Wish he'd make up for it in an evening he tends to do it overnight instead!

[FattyNinjaOwl]

Just giving a feed. I've been out all day.
Right well, Nathan has mastered the commando crawl. He dragged himself along the floor on his tummy and attacked his big sister by pulling her hair. Highly amusing to me. Not so much to DD
And he had his first taste of McDonald's today. I was in with the DC and he was sat on my knee. I'm talking to a woman who works there (she nabbed us a table as it was packed, and we got chatting) and he grabbed a handful of Chips from DS1 and started scoffing them. I took them off him doubly quick once I realised! All that salt!
Can't remember much as I'm knackered but kbb good luck tomorrow.
mzzzf I hate when Nathan sicks up his bottle. I have to then bath a baby who is screaming hungry because he wants another bottle to replace the one he just puked! Not good.

[loveandsmiles]

Babyloves slept in her Moses basket all yesterday morning and then screamed the rest of the day and all last night unless I was holding her - no idea what the problem was but extra tired this morning - not a great start to the week, especially as we have swimming followed by tumble club first thing!

kbb hope all goes well for your first day back to work X

mzzzf oh yuk to the big sick - hope you were rewarded with a big sleep afterwards!

joskar Hey Ho Swashbucklers Go!! That is a big favourite in our house too - even my 8 and 6 year olds like to watch it

fatty Nathan is hilarious - always makes me - commando crawling and 🍟 - he is such a character!!!

[mzzzf]

Good morrow fine mugabeans!

No such joy on the sleep front here. She was very unsettled all night. Longest stretch was 2hrs 20 😕
No idea why the giant sick either.

DH back properly to work this week so flying solo from here on in! But feel IV nailed today already as we're both dressed 😁

[FattyNinjaOwl]

mzzzf you're dressed?!
I've not even managed that yet and I have a school run in an hour.
loves Nathan is a pain! I'm dreading his toddler years if he's like this already!

[Frolicacid]

Morning! We were awake s bit more last night, but not too bad.
Sad news about David Bowie. A true genius.

I suppose evening catch ups are better than night time lily. He went most of yesterday without eating because he couldn't take his eyes of his cousins and my boob won't go with him when he turns around to face the other way! I tried feeding him in the quiet upstairs, but he was coming off at every noise.

You have a right little character there fatty! Chips 😮

You're dressed mzzf??? At 7am?? You win Monday!

[kbro79]

I think DS has worked out the counter spell. It didn't work last night. DS was so unsettled last night.

Good luck kbb. Enjoy some hot tea!!!

DS and I are having a lazy morning chatting and cuddling in bed listening to radio play 30 mins of david Bowie. So sad.

[Dozygirl]

Wow mzzzf well done you! Definitely deserve a badge and certificate for that unlocked achievement.

I'm heading back home today after a weekend at my sisters in Wales. Dd sleep has been terrible while here. Been waking up much more often than just the usual once. Not sure if this is now her norm or if it's just because we've been somewhere different. Will see what happens tonight back at home. I want to move her into her own room too. She's so aware of everything so I went her to move before she gets too used to seeing us.

She gets very distracted while feeding now though during the day so she's prob not getting as much and needs to stock up more at night.

Lol to Nathan eating chips and crisps. My mum was babysitting dd Saturday night at my aunties house and my cousins kid gave piper some pom bear crisps. So she's eaten 2 of those! Her favourite at the moment is sucking on bread. Need to read the blw book soon and then start giving her stuff more regularly.

Dp has now been invited to a stag do that is a week away so not only is he going away in March for a week he'll now be going in July. And I definitely can't deny him the stag do as it's one of his oldest friends. This was supposed to be our year for going on holiday together because we didn't go anywhere last year. Oh well. I kinda feel it's too stressful going away with a baby. We're goin to Switzerland in February and I'm already stressing about how we're going to manage it.

[Frolicacid]

Oh god! I think I've broken ds' heart ☹️
I decided to try a bottle instead of boob after his first nap. It didn't go well! After 1/2 hour of crying, I relented and gave him a boob. He's still whimpering and making a sad face now, despite clearly not being hungry any more.
What the fuck was I thinking? He's obviously going to breastfeed forever 🙄

[Clstow]

Frolic sorry if this has already been suggested but have you tried a cup rather than bottle?

I feel so sad about Bowie, not normally one to get upset by a celeb death but he was truly a legend imo. Have already been educating DS in the ways of Ziggy Stardust, and we've been loving 6music this morning.

Dressed by 7am?! Imagine what you'll achieve by midday... Sympathy for the big sick as well. I really recommend Dr Browns bottles. They stop DS guzzling milk - takes a bit longer for him to feed but touch wood we've not had a big sick since using those bottles.

Good luck today Kbb - hope it goes ok.

Wow Switzerland sounds great Dozy, what made you choose there? I reckon it'll be v baby friendly when you get there. And think of all the chocolate

Go Nathan munching on the chips! Still burying my head in the sand about weaning... Need to make some decisions and buy some bowls etc but the whole thing just freaks me out - feel like I'm not ready for the next stage of babyhood

[Frolicacid]

Thanks clstow. We've tried everything 😬 Little chap is clearly a boob man. I told myself I wasn't going to worry about it anymore, as I'm sure he'll be ok when weaned. And I'm not back at work until May. But, I would really like to go out and do some exercise classes or even socialise, and all that stuff is at bed time when Ds feeds for comfort. I would LOVE it if he would take a bottle and dh could do bed time if I'm not here. I hate the thought of him being upset and hungry.
He's started watching us eat the past few days, so I think I'll get going on weaning soon so that he gets used to food coming from places other than the boob.

I hope you're all having a fab day. It's bloody lovely here today. We've done a nice dog walk this morning and we're off to swimming now.

[sianihedgehog]

Not David Bowie too!! I'm genuinely quite upset, it hadn't really occurred to me that he was mortal. Little chap is reminding me of the babe today in tribute.

We've got the same trouble as all of you with DS missing out on feeds because he's too interested in what's going on. He nearly didn't manage a proper feed all day yesterday or the day before because he could see his daddy. I ended up taking him upstairs to feed in bed just so he could concentrate! We also had the first ever overtired over hungry meltdown after we went for a roast. He missed his morning nap because he was too nosy, and was SO TIRED, but just couldn't sleep with so much to see and hear, and I couldn't even feed him to sleep because he kept coming off to look at stuff. He kept starting to cry and then smiling at people, then crying again. He was out cold for about 3 hours within 2 minutes of leaving the pub.

[Lilydreams]

I think I'm literally about to stop functioning from lack of sleep.

After DS literally woke almost every ten minutes last night with the odd half hour thrown in things all came to a head when DH found me hysterically sobbing lying on DS's bedroom floor at 05.30. I literally feel like I've been tortured. Managed to put him in bed with me at 7 when DH left for work and had a half sleep till 9.30 but not properly because I'm too scared when he's in bed with me that I'll squash him. To make matters worse his what I think is eczema has flared up horrifically and is bright red and patchy and he's scratching like mad, possibly what kept him up? - I've rang the GP twice and can't get seen today got an appointment for Friday but can ring for on the day ones before then, rang the Hv and the duty one isn't available, went the walk in centre and the wait was 3 hours and I hadn't brought that much milk and finally rang an overflow number for GP appointments and they don't have any either! Was going to go the pharmacy on the way home but the road is closed so I've come home and am sat in the car on the drive whilst DS sleeps- don't want to wake him after he's had such little sleep. I've lost track of how many times I've cried today and I don't quite know how I'm going to get through the next 4 hours till DH gets home.

Sorry for the me post I'll read and reply when I can actually read!

[mzzzf]

Oh Lily! Are you still on the driveway?! Hopefully you're having a doze too!

Sleep deprivation is blood awful!! Have you got any eczema stuff at home (I say that as usually parents have it too). Even just slathering in e45,double base or olive oil might help until the flare up can be checked to see if it's inflammatory.

Maybe tonight be fore-armed and oil him up, give him some calpol and get yourself fed and pj'd before attempted bedtime. Coping with a non sleeper is much easier on a full stomach and when you know you can just go to sleep when they do, I think.

For the rest of today just take it half an hour at a time. Keep yourself hydrated, push your shoulders down and snack. If DS wAnts to play just lay on the floor with him. Laying is more relaxing that standing/sitting. Does he like CBeebies? Get it on and take a back seat if he's into that.

You can do this for 4 more hours. You've totally got it in the bag missus!!!

Is DH able to take DS for the first part of the night tonight so you can get your nut down?

[kbro79]

Oh lily I feel so bad for you. Is there no way the gps can squeeze you in? I think they have to offer apps to babies as priority. If nothing else then arguing with the receptionist will be good for the sleep deprived rage.

Agree with mzzzf just take it 30 minutes at a time. And go to bed as soon as DH gets home. Pjs on now. You need to sleep even if it's not over night. Deep breathes. Your strong and awesome and can do this. DH is bringing me a Mars bar home after I emailed him saying I wanted to sob with tiredness. Monday Blues all round.

[Lilydreams]

Thanks Mzzf- I didn't last long on the drive he woke up soon after! He has zero base cream and I'm plastering him in that but to little effect poor sod. Yeh DH is off tommorrow and so has said he'll do the majority of the night and wants me to go to bed when he gets in. Thanks for your advice as simple as it was I couldn't see through the fog of exhaustion before- cebeebies was a hit and he's had a half hour nap so I did too- he wanted to stay asleep so desperately but after the initial half hour woke crying every few minutes again for the next half hour so I gave up, I really don't know what's causing it!

Kbro- pjs are on ready and good shout on the mars bar I'm desperately trying to diet to fit in my work pants in 7 weeks but I think today that may have to go on the back burner. That said I'm not even hungry really! Sorry your suffering too. As for the GP they are useless I've had the baby being prioritised conversation before with them!

[Frolicacid]

I'm so sorry you and Ds are having such a tough time lily. Nothing to add to the excellent advice you've already had, but sending you a very big virtual hug. I hope he feels better very soon 💐

[MaGratgarlik1983]

Oh Lily that sounds awful! I hope you're sleeping now! DS has properly hit the 4 month regression I think - he's 20 weeks and since the weekend has been really crappy with his daytime naps, like waking after 30 mins crying because he's still tired but not being able to get back to sleep. I've rocked and shussed but nothing helps. So he gets crazy overtired and cranky. Then at bedtime he's been a nightmare to get down. Usually he's in bed by 5.30 and goes down easily waking a couple of times for food but that's it. Lately, I can't get him to sleep out of my arms, being put in the cot is greeted with wails, and it seems like he's crying more at himself than at me as sometimes even a hug doesn't help. I don't know. How long is this supposed to last?? I feel broken.