Just Mumming 8 - the one with the fire crawlers, wind machines and the Health Visitor revolt

[WilHarlot]

Add your stats Viroids (or don't bother). I feel like there's something I'm supposed to write here but don't know what it is...

min she will be OK, they often cry the 2nd or third time E.t.c as they realise they are gonna be left! Fx you come back to a happy baby :)

I came back to an asleep one, something I thought she wouldn't do. Apparently as soon as I left she was ok, looked at the horses etc. still didn't eat much however, but when she got home had a massive lunch, she's now sleeping through her afternoon bottle so if she doesn't ask for it when she wakes, I think I'll drop it.
God I was so proud of her.

That's great min! I've just put Bs name down for nursery - can't believe I'm planning this already but they all have waiting lists

Snap great news about the mattress but not the appointment - how annoying! Can you chase up the paediatrician? I've got opposite problem, been sent 3 different appointments for 3 different paediatricians and different hospitals. Trying to sort it out is a nightmare. Still no sign of his appointment for hip rescan. Was meant to be last week.

Just back from first postnatal mum fitness class. Learned the hyperpressive method which is recommended for postnatal to help women not have problems with incontinence etc later on. Was good - we were in a group of 5 who know each other so was fun class. Had babies on mats next to us and B was semi well behaved after a big of a grizzle.

DM is gone - boooooo! I have to look after my child myself again!

Anyone got any tips of ways to amuse 11 week old babies between naps and feeds? I just keep recycling bouncer, play mat, dancing around, massage etc.

He's a big fart machine today

Oh fuck that's not a fart that's a poonami

Shite.

Jeez I can smell it from other side of the lounge

Lol La! Don't you just love it when there's a shit fest everywhere?! My two have a chat and plot to have their poos together and then they both scream the place down because they don't like being sat in their own crap as soon as they've soiled themselves. I need an extra one of me.
You're doing well with the mat etc, don't think there's much more you can do with an 11 week old apart from sing nursery rhymes and reading stories to them.
Did kind of chuckle when you mentioned falling asleep at the dinner table- I'm glad I've never done that, I'm a drooler- well attractive.

Snap still need to have scans (I think) the consultants sent me a letter to tell me that they were going to have a sit round a table and discuss what they were going to do with me last Friday and then let me know. I wasn't invited to the soirée all about me. Bet they just looked at my notes and said "yep she's fucking nuts- we'll give that one a lobotomy-Ooo is it time for more coffee?" Not heard anything yet.

Mountain hope you enjoyed your champers last night
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Thanks Min, glad to here Minimin seems to be enjoying nursery. P sometimes still cries when she goes to the childminders but as soon as the doors closed she stops the monkey!

Cheers Dulcet, hope everything's going well at your end.

Fleur hope you're alright lovely.

Done some more training at work today. God I love being able to beat the shit out of people. Ideal job for me this

I have a quick question when P gets frustrated or annoyed she bites her fingers (hard) pulls her own hair or slaps herself and I've no idea how to deal with it. I do make her stop by holding her hands by her sides and saying no in a firm voice and then say more softly that she'll hurt herself if she does that. Anyone experienced this and got any hints/ tips. She's 17 months now so has a pretty good idea of what I'm saying to her but she can't voice her frustration so she's taking it out on herself.

Hey! I am still around and surviving!

Thanks for all the good wishes. I have had a better day today. Yesterday and last night were terrible, S was awake from 11 - 3.30am I think he had an upset tummy as he did a huge poo when he usually only does one every few days (he had been on Monday too).

I am trying to do whatever keeps his nibs happy - usually the sling. So be it. It makes my life easier and he cries a lot less.

Glad to see you back pixie

I had to put S down for nursery as soon as he was born and even then I may have left it a bit late

Happy birthday and anniversary mountain

Glad minimin is ok min

Sorry if I have missed anyone out!

La have you got a local library? Ours does a free singalong with a guitar woman and I learned loads of songs with actions when I used to go with P. I can keep MiniSnap amused for a least 15 minutes with those, especially the ones that involve zooming to the moon or anything else that requires lifting into the air. I also got given a sheet of activities to do with 0-3 month olds by the HV, part of the Ages and Stages questionnaire they use here. Cannot for the life of me find it but I have found the one for 4-8 month olds, if that's any help in a few weeks! Or your HV might have it. If you google Ages and Stages, there's quite a lot of stuff online, too

Pixie, I do hope they can do a bit more for you than a lobotomy! Mind you, it sometimes feels like having a baby has pretty much the same effect.

Min, my 3 year old never cried once when he was dropped off at nursery. He used to cry when I picked him up instead, as he wad having too much fun and didn't want to come home. Little sod.

La, why is B seeing the paediatrician if you don't mind me asking?

The app works! Rejoice!!

Tiny tee is teething. Not been posting as have triple whammy of teething, sleep regression, and vaxxing reaction and I am dead on my feet. Poor little guy is just so unhappy. I am fucking exhausted. I have managed to perfect the art of the calpol squirt, but fuck my life I would give my right arm to sleep for longer than 90 minutes a night. I think I've aged 10 years in two weeks...!

Reading back now...

Glad you're feeling better fleur - was thinking of you earlier!

I've got the saddest poorliest baby in the world He has bronchiolitis. He's also on a nursing strike. Bad times.

Aww Popz sorry to hear minipopz is poorly, hope he gets better really soon.

Tee that sounds immensely shit- like not a bit shit but really epically shit. I do feel your pain I went through the same thing with P and then she decided to have a cold as well. Sleep deprivation is the worst thing ever in the entire world. That's why the use it as a form of torture. People go mental, I nearly did. Have plenty of and when it's over even more of these

Fleur that's the key l- keeping them happy, once you've found it just go with it and if anyone starts criticising you then in your nices possible poshest voice tell them to go fuck themselves and smile sweetly at the same time. Then saunter off with a spring in your step whilst whistling a merry tune. You can tell I've done that before can't you

P is so constipated- she keeps turning a beetroot colour and crying when she's doing a poo. This on top of her spontaneous self harming episodes is pushing me to the edge. No you cannot play with the knives in the dishwasher- cue pulling own hair, biting own fingers etc. I kind of wish she was trying to hurt me rather than taking it out on herself.

R is being particularly noisy tonight. He's usually sleeping soundly but he sounds like a warthog trying to squeeze out a large fart. In fact he's just farted so he's probably going to stop grunting now.

Poor poorly babies popzicle, tinytee and fleurette! Bronchiolitis isn't nice at all and that sounds utterly rubbish tee!

Fleur - yes I also pick something he likes and stick with it (stroking head and letting him sleep on me). If it works go with it x

Pixie another spectacular post!

Going to have nap been up all night

Oh poor poorly babies
How rotten for them and you!

We've had a better night. He was up 11,2,5,8 which is fab. DH did the 11 one which included chunder....I didn't get any chunder last night
Nowhere to rush off to in the morning helps. Just a birthday cake to make for DH, wrap presents and diabetic clinic thus afternoon. Should all be doable I think.
Sorry for those who've had bad nights, we had an awful one the night before. I was beside myself yesterday

Oh no popz, that's awful. I know another baby that had that recently. Is he coping ok?

Sounds like a baby shit storm there tee. Hope it's over soon!

Glad you had a better day fleur, like you've said, just do what it takes. We all just have to ride it out!

Do you think she's is taking it out on herself because you react to it pixie? Must be horrible to see though.

Have a good nap la! What's hypermerrsive??

Must do the nursery thing! Keep hearing such horrible stories about loss and days not available etc. need to work out what I am asking for first. Don't know how to work out wages and when to go back etc.

Eurgh, I really need to sort nursery for miniP! Lastminute.com!!

Minipopz is still in bed! Hopefully he's sleeping the poorly off. He had some milk in the night so that's one good thing at least.

Glad minipopz has eaten something bless him.

La nap away! Enjoy and have lovely dreams.

Dulcet I never thought of that but could be. But I keep reading various conflicting advice on how to deal with it. Some people say to ignore and others say to acknowledge because she may do it more if she's ignored.

Glad you've had a better night Purple.

Oh my fucking God last night was an absolute nightmare! No sleep was had, none at all!! R has a cold and in typical man form anyone would think he was dying! He slept for about half an hour and then be up crying and did this continuously through the the night. Tried calpol, stripping him off, making him warmer etc. Nothing worked! He's had about 2 hours sleep all day today since being up at 5am. He's trying to fall asleep now but he can't suck his dummy and breathe through his nose which is really pissing him off.
I've gone from getting 10 hours sleep a night to bugger all which is a huge shock to the system, it's like he's a new born again. He's currently got his feet covered in Vicks with socks on with a room vaporiser and he's had some stuff shoved up his nose and is dosed up on all sorts of lovely tasting medicine.
I just need him to go to sleep so I can collapse! Thank god P is at the child minders today- reckon I'd be sitting in the garden rocking back and forth if she was here as well.

Oh pixie sounds horrific hope you both get some proper rest soon.

Hv came today and weighed Melba- she's gaining weight well, now just over 6lb! It's her due date coming up, feels quite strange thinking about that, like I should be getting all nervously excited at this point. I feel quite sad when I think about her birth and early days on SCBU. I know the main thing is that she is here, safe and doing very well, and my goodness I love her so so much, but thinking about how horrible it was and how hard I found it all to deal with initially makes me sad. All I wanted was to be her mum properly but it was hard to feel like I was whilst she was in SCBU. I don't want sad memories of her early days. Still, we're enjoying ourselves now and hopefully those feelings will fade into the background.

Hope Minipopz is feeling better and minipixie too.

In hindsight a chocolate cake was a bit ambitious but I managed it. Diabetic clinic don't want to see me for 6 months now which is a good thing.

B slept for 3 hours while we were out, it wasn't til we got home that I realised he'd been in his car seat all that time (travel, hospital, asda, travel). I'm feeling quite guilty about it. It didn't even occur to me! Normally he wouldn't sleep that long so he'd be out for a feed.
I also managed to forget to take any baby milk when we went out so he screamed the last 20 mins til we got home. Feel shit about that too!

On the plus side I finally saw my neighbour who had a boy a week before B and invited her for a cuppa next week

Hope everyone gets more sleep tonight

Totally understandable toast

Hope the chocolate cake was enjoyed purple!

Sounds intense pixie - Hope you get a decent sleep tonight!!

Minip is loads better today, almost back to his normal self by this evening, crawling and playing like a goodun. His breathing is still so noisy though! Poor little guy. I love him so much!!

Glad to hear it Popz

Toast I'm not surprised you still get a bit upset, it's good to just get it out though and not bottle up your feelings. Every time I watched OBEM after having P it brought back horrible memories and I'd had nothing like what you had, I'd just had forceps and a loooooooong labour. We end up feeling robbed of the birth that we desperately wished for and its rammed down our throats that if we think positive we can have the perfect birth. It just doesn't happen like that. And this is why I get frustrated with things like Daisy birthing. The concepts lovely but this is real life and we should empower women that whatever way they give birth or whatever happens you did a miraculous thing. There are no special awards, it's whatever is safest for you and baby.
Your birth was out of your control, babies will come when and how they want, one day you'll think about it and it won't make you cry, instead you'll feel stronger in yourself
And think "yes it was shite, but I got through that and look at me now!" lots of unmumsnetty hugs for you

Yay for mum friends Purple, mine keep me sane! Good to hear about your diabetes check. I've done that (car thing) a couple of times with both of my kids. Don't worry about it, oh and the milk, I've been driving along motorways and not been able to stop with them in the car and they've had to wait until we get home. It's very stressful and makes you feel like crap but they won't starve if they have to wait a few minutes. My kids are living proof of that lol! There need to be a device that you can hook onto a car seat that holds the bottle for your baby so they can just drink as and when they need to. Dragons Den here I come haha!

Well R isn't as bad as last night instead of every half an hour he's woken every 1-2 hours so far, he's had a bit of m ilk, some ibuprofen and a nappy change. I've popped him back in his cot on his side so fingers crossed he goes a bit longer because he doesn't sound as sniffly on his side bless him. ST is snoring away oblivious to my plight. What a twat.
God I'm knackered, going to try and get some more sleep.

Oh P is well on her way to talking- her word of the week is "willy" she likes to say it loudly whilst pointing at STs appendage when he's getting dressed in the morning. At least she's stopped pointing at me and saying "Tit" silver linings and all that.

Pixie how's R now, any better? It sounds hideous, sleep deprivation is torture :(

Toast I can totally empathise with feeling completely sad about the way the birth went and like there's a cloud over the whole thing. Try to focus on Melba being a lovely healthy wee girl who is perfect in every way and will have no idea in future that her entry to the world was anything except the norm (if there is such a thing as a normal birth?). If it would do you good to go for debrief or counselling then take that opportunity. X

Purple we've all been there!!! B screamed blue murder in traffic jam on way home from London. I had to pull off down side street to bf him and he as too upset to feed. Bad mummy

My mil is staying - what a stark difference to my mums visit! She is very nice but doesn't offer to help with baby and drinks copious amounts of alcohol. She brought a bottle of wine and bottle of vodka with her, then went out yesterday for another bottle of wine. Neither me nor DH were drinking, that's just not helpful to me at the moment and I've got little tolerance about it. I tried saying we haven't got space to put people up anymore (my DM slept on sofa for 10 days) but she came anyway.

B woke up for 11pm feed last night for first time in 3 weeks I was gutted. Had got used to having a block of 3 hours sleep at start of night before the crap starts of no sleep from 3 onwards. I'm knackered and dh is working the next 2 nights so I'm on my own again for first time in over a week. Feel a bit sad about it. I'm horrible to dh just now - he is trying to get better at rocking B to sleep but he just doesn't persevere long enough and when he puts him down he wakes up. Dh then goes 'oh well I tried' and I then have to do it so it was pointless him 'letting me sleep' in first place. God when does the resentment toward your dp end? I feel so angry at dh every night when I'm sitting holding B because he has wind, or feeding him or rocking him, and meanwhile dh is snoring. I fucking HATE him at those times and would quite happily scream the place down if I could. I'm snarky, snappy, aggressive and miserable towards him. Wouldn't be surprised if he gets fed up and leaves.

Going to a birthday party for 1 year old twins today! Looking forward to seeing my friends

Hypopressive method explained here is where you exercise core without pressure on your abdominals - ideal for postnatal getting muscles starting to work again and help them rebuild following pregnancy. Really great for preventing incontinence after birth.

It was really interesting although I've not got the hang of it yet!

Loving minipixies new talking - 'willy'!