Just Mumming 8 - the one with the fire crawlers, wind machines and the Health Visitor revolt

[WilHarlot]

Add your stats Viroids (or don't bother). I feel like there's something I'm supposed to write here but don't know what it is...

[Minion]

Ahhhhhhhhh

[Minion]

Fred

[Toast85]

Thanks pixie now where's la to fill the fred so we can go onto the new one?

[Minion]

Finish

[Minion]

Must

[purplewhale]

We've done better back on the original milk. Last night wasn't too bad other than DH not making him take a full bottle so he woke up sooner
I keep fuckin telling him to wake him up so he takes the full bottle!

Hope babyPis is better soon and everyone got some sleep

[PixieChops]

Right I can't link it but if you go to
Topics- Being a parent- Postnatal clubs- Just Mumming 9- We're suffering the curse of Mel B, ST syndrome and the rise of the sleep snatchers. We've all had enough and would just like a good JS.

Or just search just Mumming 9 you should find it

[PixieChops]

I'll start a new Fred- think I can do it from my iPhone.

[Toast85]

Next 2 feeds were fine and just one tiny dribble when Dh changed her before he went to work so hopefully it was a one off and she's not developing some god awful reflux problem.

I am so very tired and I somehow have to get up once she's had this current feed and function again today. I could try for another sleep until my next booby call but I think I'd run out of time to shower etc before my friend and her LO arrives. I've not seen her since her since Melba arrived and looking forward to catching up with her. It's not like it's a bad day at all but I'm not sure I'll even remember my own name by lunchtime.

And I can't remember what anyone else is talking about on the Fred so I'n just gonna leave it there. Hope you all have good days whatever you're up to.

[ZylaB]

We're going to a kiddies' farm place today! So excited :)

[ZylaB]

Awwpis hope she's better soon. I know what you mean about wanting to keep them in with you, I was the same!

toast I hope it was just bad luck and the next feed went better.

[Toast85]

Hope baby pis is ok and not poorly pis

[Toast85]

Can imagine once baby starts wanting food and having mealtimes that involve sitting up and being given a plate of food that like you say it takes much more planning. Can't just whip baby's dinner out of your top any more!

Poor melba had a massive spit up after her last feed, not like her at all, she sometimes possetts a little dribble but that looked like her entire feed came up whilst she was lying on my lap. I'd fed her one side, changed her, tried the other side which she wasn't interested in, and put her down on my lap for a few mins. She spat a load up, so I then changed her clothes, washed her etc and boom! Spat up a load more again whilst I was cleaning up the first one.
So now we're on her next feed and I'm wondering how to prevent another episode or whether that one was just bad luck anyway. Advice for reflux seems to be keep baby upright for 20 mins after a feed but when I go to change her she'll be flat for that. Hmmm.. Poor love has already just had a face full of sprayed milk at the start of her feed due to poor planning on mummy's behalf and poor mouth/nipple coordination on her part.

[Pisghetti]

We started baby led weaning at six months here. She started pretty slowly just exploring things but usually wolfs down three meals a day now. She's not very well today so hasn't touched any of the solids we've offered and has just gone for breastmilk. That's fine too. The motto that comes up a lot is 'food before one is just for fun' ie milk should continue to be their main nutritional source so don't stress if they aren't too interested in the beginning. There are medical reasons why some babies are weaned earlier like Pixie said but if that doesn't apply then there's really no hurry. It's exciting to get started but once you're on your way it becomes a bit of a PITA to be honest! I have to plan my day far more carefully.

I'm not going to get much sleep tonight. She went down fine at eight but I've been up every ten minutes or so since then. Poor love has a cough and sounds like a woodbine smoker. Her breathing is a bit noisy too like a cat purring. If she's the same in the morning I'll take her to a doctor.

La I think I started putting BabyPis to bed in the evening from about four months? We started with a 9pm bedtime but recently knocked that back to 8pm. She wouldn't settle downstairs and would be a tired, screamy nightmare so introducing bedtime worked out well. She is still in my room (7 months) but I've found her sat up in her crib twice now (second time tonight) I don't know how she does it as I've not seen her get to sitting from lying flat but essentially it means she's outgrown the crib and I need to think about what to do next. She's technically old enough to go in her own room now but she's still waking 2-3 times a night (on a good night) for feeds and I haven't got room for a chair in the nursery so no idea how I'd manage that. Plus she's my teeny baby and I don't want her to go in her own room yet .

[purplewhale]

Yikes pixie hope you're not ill

We went onto anticolic milk last night and tonight we've gone back to normal milk. He's been rotten all day, writhing and screaming and sobbing. Not his usual self at all. Plus it gave him the shits!

Toast that's what mine was like. Suggest you get as much as you can out. Watch for signs of infection though

[ZylaB]

Oh god pixie! I'm glad you don't feel ill and hope it settles down soon!

[PixieChops]

I'm going to put my twopence in about weaning: nobody has to agree with me.
I have been told by a dr that in his words "it's ridiculous to wean from 6 months as you have to hurry to get through the different stages and babies get hungry- mine would've been eating the sofa by 6 months if I hadn't of weaned them early"
I'm inclined to agree with that comment to an extent because when I weaned P it's as if we rushed through the different stages and I'd started weaning her at 5.5 months. She'll still eat anything but it did feel rushed.
Also I have been told by a paediatrician and a dietician that R must be FULLY weaned by 6 months so I've started with food at 17 weeks as that's the earliest.
R has tried sweet potato and absolutely loved it. There definitely was more in his mouth than round it and he opened his mouth for more when he saw the spoon. He's on a special milk for CMPA which is apparently why he needs to be weaned earlier rather than later and I've been sent a booklet in the post from the dietician about what he can and can't eat with regards to his allergy/ intolerance. You would not believe how many names there are for dairy in food!
So yes I'm weaning at 17 weeks and it's going well.
The thing with their gut is that it changes between 4-6 months, each baby is different so they can't determine when this happens so they say 6 months to everybody to aire on the side of caution.

Glad to hear your uterus isn't falling out Toast and well done La on the tit juicing! You've done fab!

Rs feeling better today- we've even had laughing! He's never laughed for us, only for P so that was nice. I on the other hand shit myself this afternoon. I'm not lying either I really did. I was doing some trumps on the sofa and had a sudden urge to poo- I yelled at ST (who was fannying around in the kitchen making tea thinking he's Jamie Oliver) to look after the kids because I thought I was going to shit myself and I just did! Got to the bathroom and cleaned myself up and finished off. Thing is I don't feel ill at all. But it was definitely diarrhoea. I've drank half a bottle of pepto bismal. I don't have time to be ill! I've been completely fine since and eaten my tea etc and nothing: it's like a freak poo incident!

[ZylaB]

toast I know breastfeeding vitamins are very similar to pregnancy ones and that folic acid isn't an issue for breastfeeding in those amounts, but I have to have ones that are a lot stronger, so just wanted to check it wasn't an issue. Yours will be fine :)

[Toast85]

Zyla I don't know official rules about folic acid and BF but I am using up pregnancy vitamins that have folic in them.. Let me know if this is not allowed?! Hv suggested I took them.

Don't worry viroids my uterus is not falling out of my scar just yet. When I say leaking I do only mean a bit of pinkish fluid from the end where the stitches are knotted and it only leaks when I've been fiddling with it and there are no signs of infection. I will get the GP to have a butchers at my 6wk appointment this week though better do some topiary first.

[cookielove]

I don't think the Dr will do anything as he doesn't have a temp and is eating fine! My Dr is pretty crap!

E grabs the spoon and flips it, now he has to have a bowl and his own spoon and sometimes I am allowed to feed him. If I use a pouch he wants to put the lid and off. If neither of these things happen we are faced with a huge tantrum :( he also will eat nothing new! I miss when it was just milk

Not sure about breastfeeding and folic. But I know people do bf and TTC so most likely you can :)

[ZylaB]

Oh, and docs if you're worried cookie!!

[ZylaB]

Hehe cookie I know what you mean! H grabs the spoon if I try to feed her, usually when it's full, then tries to feed herself with it and splashes and smears it all over. She's mostly loving fish at the moment!

I think I'm broody... Next time I get a repeat prescription I'll get some super strength folic acid I think, so I can start getting it in my system, then talk to my consultant when I go in December. There's no reason I can't take folic acid when breastfeeding is there?

[cookielove]

I know when you are all stuck in the thick of that it feels like it will never end and your baby will never sleep, I was there too. But one say your baby will learn to sleep longer, they won't always only settle in your arms and one day they will self settle on their own in their own beds. You may have to teach them this or they will learn in their own but one day it will get easier!

That's not me being patronising, just offering hope to those who need it

E is terribly wheezy and I am worried. He is also wanting to spoon fed himself but he is terrible at it so each meal time is very slow and very messy

[ZylaB]

Nah dulcet she's never slept away from me during the day, it's a pain but she's consistent with it! Now she just screams if I walk away while she's awake too lol

[Indigoblue2]

Yeah it's confusing dulcet! What I've taken from it is that not all babies are the same in their behavioural signs but they are the same in the physiology of their guts - so even if your baby looks ready outwardly, you can't see how open or closed the lining of their intestine is (obviously!) so it's much safer to wait. But of course it's a personal choice as with everything.