December 2012 : Stop that or your going in your cot.

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I must cry for you spotty I'm a total crier!
Why not give nursery a time frame - say 2 more weeks and if there's change then stop and try again in 6 months?

I like WL's plan Spotty.

He's only been going two weeks I know I'm being a total wuss. Will give it another two weeks, he's too ill to go today anyway.

Spotty Julia Donaldson's Goat goes to Playgroup is awesome, and we had a Spot one from the library for a while too. goat was a particularly good one for us because goat gets in a puddle which was an opportunity to talk about how he could have avoided it, teachers there to help etc. but the end is a lovely one with all the mummies and daddies collecting their offspring.

We've got that it's been ds' favourite book for ages!

We have tantrums galore today, but she has been dead loving in between. I can't wait till she goes to sleep.

I am currently freezing my butt off having just got off the parents coach and now waiting for the kids coach to arrive after watching dd1 at the O2 young voices performance. Why is my car taking so long to heat up?

WL was it a good concert?

We have a very thin layer of snow today, H is very excited.

Our separation anxiety has got so bad here he's stopped letting us close his bedroom door for naps/bedtime, will no longer even walk down a corridor without me right behind him, and today crying because he's (voluntarily) in a different room than me. DD is just hitting 7 months and separation anxiety too.

They're both ill too, and DD has had me up twenty plus times a night crying. I'm getting 3 hours broken sleep a night this week, I'm going to break very soon.

Today I bought a Ewan Sheep, crazy impulse buy hoping it'll fix something. Anything.

Maybe it's som about the age spotty. I feel your pain though. Is your OH giving you bother still about sending DS?

WL how's your mum and family? Hope you're all as well as can be. See if there's a Maggies Centre near you maybe, they were great for me and my dad when I was ill.

Stacks that sounds like a nightmare.

Dh said he will pay for nursery after all that?!

Ds didn't go yesterday as he was unwell so I feel like we will be starting over again Monday. I was thinking of taking his favourite book in that he can read with one of the adults when he gets there.

WL hope you had a good evening.

It was an awesome night and dd1 flew off the coach full of beans. 12.30 bedtime for a 7yo on a school night though! Lucky thing didn't have to be in school til 11 though - unlike me, and I've had to work late so am on a train an hour later than usual. Tired but not as tired as stacks. That level is sleep deprivation is miserable. Can DH do a night shift? Or go into work late so you can sleep in a bit?
spotty that sounds like a lovely idea.

Stacks if i remember correctly you don't live near family do you? Is there any chance you could ring anyone to come and help you? I am so sorry that you are so sleep deprived it makes everything awful. I don't really have any useful suggestions as what to do about separation anxiety. I hope your ok Please be kind to yourself. Could DP help by letting you go for a walk by yourself.

We got some sleep! In fact, everyone is still sleeping now, except me. Since being a mum I've discovered I'm a "morning person" (and I kind of hate it). Once it gets to a certain time I just can't sleep more, even if I'm tired.
I should probably go wake the house. We have dentist at 9. It's only a 10 minute walk away, but with two kids to get up, dressed and breakfast we might be cutting it fine. I heard DS wake at 10 and 11 last night, so he'll be tired.

Stacks isn't it weird how DC seem to know exactly when they are breaking their parents and suddenly they let you have a really good night. I'm so glad you got a good one.

Please please can someone help me, i am having so much trouble with H. She is having the worst temper tantrums she sounds like she is getting murdered screaming at the top of her voice which is loud I am pretty sure the neighbours will be hearing it and apart from being fed up of it, will now be wondering if i am hurting her. Again its around getting her dressed and leaving the house i have been trying for an hour now and can't get her dressed. I actually NEED to go shopping and feel like just sending DP as i am so fed up of it. I have tried bribary, i have tried letting her choose her own clothes. I have put her in her bedroom and ignored her.

Hugs hales r did something similar yesterday, woke from his nap in a strop which lasted an hour

Sometimes they just need to feel their feelings. I had him crying for cuddles yet kicking and hitting if I picked him up. So I held his hand and sobbed quietly while posting on the local ap group waited for the storm to abate.

I don't know about h but r likes to know what's happening next - he's very focussed on days of the week at the moment- so telling him the "plan" for the afternoon/next day really helps him. Nothing detailed just "we'll go to playgroup in the morning then after your nap we'll need to buy milk and bread and cat food and if you like we'll go to the park on the way home"

I have a friend whose kids would kick off at that level of restriction so no guarantee it'll work for you but worth a shot if you haven't already tried it

Oh and if I were you I'd leave her with dp and piss off to the shops myself via wherever sells the best coffee and cake

Thank You Delad, i cries too. I rang my nan in the end i let her calm down and drink some milk. Then asked her again to get dressed she said no, so i said the choice is yours bed or get dressed. She said bed so i took her up and left her in her room she waited quietly for about 10 minutes then she shouted mummy me get dressed now. She is very independent so if she doesn't want to do something she kicks off and off and off. She must of tired herself out today though as she is napping on the couch which is unheard of.

How is R doing in nursery?

Hales I don't know what to suggest, sorry. Toddlers can be so infuriating and I sometimes think that when they're super bright like h it can make them more highly strung!

I've just emailed nursery to pull Ds out. I feel so guilty to nursery and Ds but I think it was too soon and we could really use the money for other things this year. Please tell me nursery won't hate me??

Ooh nice one - two choices, both of which you like! Awesome mummy win there

He loves it. Dry all this week, potters in happily to see if the trains are out today. I'm very proud!

A likes his new nursery more than the old one, which he loved.

Spotty just be honest with them. You don't think he's ready, you don't need it for work, so you'd like to try again when he's older rather make everything a battle for them.

Yay R.

Hales I find a choice between doing what he's told or being shut in his room is the only way with A right now. With a certain amount of manhandling into clothes or onto the toilet. Giving very limited choice might work, eg between 2 outfits. Or let her choose the night before and lay it out ready.

Don't forget that making choices is a skill they have to learn, not natural. Sometimes it's overwhelming for them.

hales I like delads suggestion of cake and coffee! Sometimes do this or go in your cot is the only way for T too.
spotty don't feel bad, it must happen quite frequently and you have sound reasons. You must go what's right for you and ds.

I am tired and grumpy. Clean bathroom then bed.

Spotty i think you've made the right choice and you won't be the 1st or last person who makes the same decision at the same nursery.

Beasty i would love to manhandle H into her clothes but honestly she is so strong and can get them back off when i do manage it.

WL did you manage to get a good sleep last night?

This morning i was so productive and DP took me out this afternoon amd brought me a new dress and shoes. We're out at a 70th tonight and i am so excited, the last time we had a drink together was my 30th last April.