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December 2011 - the one where we do the Twist and Shout

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ifyourehoppyandyouknowit · 11/05/2014 22:27

New thread.

these babies are nearly two and a half

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Chipandspuds · 22/06/2014 08:33

That's horrible Seven I hope your sister feels better soon. Don't know what to say about her partner Biscuit

We had the opposite mistake Figgy DS fell asleep in the car at 4pm on the way home from a carnival and we let him have a nap - miraculously he slept from 4pm Saturday to 6.30am Sunday! Even managed to get him undressed, change his nappy and put his pj's on whilst he slept through!

I bought some local honey from the carnival so here's hoping it will help with the hayfever! I let DS try some honey too which he decided was 'licious' not quite got the 'delicious' yet! I wonder why I worried about him talking, he doesn't stop now!

Hope people have better luck with their husbands today! I don't really have any advice only to say I think having children puts a big strain on any relationship, and splitting up with children is much harder than without so best to take your time with things and see if there are any fixes.

ifyourehoppyandyouknowit · 22/06/2014 12:05

Oh no Seven, as much as I hate to say it she might be better off not chained to him for he next 18yrs. What a prick.

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TheOnlySeven · 22/06/2014 12:52

hop I completely agree, they already have a 3yo though. I know a few of her friends have tried to tell her in the past but it's fallen on deaf ears. Sadly she's only ever been interested in men that seem to treat her like dirt though.

Aethelfleda · 22/06/2014 19:37

:( seven. Sorry to hear about that happening, it's awful when people are that mean to people they are supposed to care about....

Hoorah for midsummer! And DS is now out of plaster, let the paddling pool shenannigans commence....

TheOnlySeven · 22/06/2014 19:52

Glad DS is cast-free aethel, did it bother him much? My 10yo neice is in plaster at the moment, she broke her arm falling off a swing on a school trip.

Hope everyone has had a good weekend.

NorthernChinchilla · 22/06/2014 21:50

We've had a lovely time at my Dad's, DS has come home with the inherited Brio set, two massive baskets of it. And we bought him a little pram yesterday as he's so keen on pushing his own, and let him push it down the High St...amazingly not one local went home with a broken ankle, despite DS's best efforts Grin

The curtains have arrived too, they're sitting there in the box waiting to be unwrapped, am embarrassingly excited.

Delighted to hear DS is out of his cast aethel, how long was he in it for? I thought it was six weeks normally, and it's not been that long has it? Bet he's glad though, especially with the heat.

PTP, it sounds like in your head you've moved on- you know he's not right for you, and you don't care for each other enough. It just takes a while for it to filter through to 'action'; it's so rarely a switch where you realise it's not going anywhere and move out on the same day. Glad you're posting on here, and we'll be around.

You really don't have much luck with Bils do you seven, jesus. Do you know anyone who's medically qualified who can tell him- and your sister- how wrong he is? Can't imagine your sister's coping very well with mc, being blamed, and not being spoken to or supported, poor woman.

OiMissus · 23/06/2014 08:29

PTP - don't be embarrassed. Making the split is sooooo tough. It's not something you just get on with.
We've still not had our conversation.
We've had friends over everyday this weekend, playing in the garden. We've been sooo tired and in bed by 10 every night. After hop and family left on Saturday, we put Boi to bed, tidied up, I sat down, zzzzz...
And DH has been great this weekend. Great with the kids, busy doing jobs, really helpful and attentive... I know part of it is to be in my good books... Argh! Tonight. Must have talk tonight. I'm just going to be honest and try not to be emotional. Discuss options and all the implications. It's just so awful for him. He loses everything, and may even feel that he'll have to leave his job too. That's just really really shitty, isn't it? And whilst my happiness matters too, it just seems so unfair and selfish to do that to him.
I know it'll be short term hurt, and medium to long term we'd probably be happier. It's just awful.
The other option is we stay together, carry on trying for a baby, knowing that we'll probably split further down the line. Cos I'm 41, and won't get another chance, but really don't want Boi to be an only child. Although I know, if we do split up, dealing with 2 will be much harder than one.
I think I just have to be really straight with him.

mopsytop · 23/06/2014 08:30

We had lovely weekend. Went to park on Sat with friends, then I brought Minimopsy into town and got her new shoes and wellies. She was so excited and wanted to go straight to nursery to show off her new shoes Smile Yesterday we went to beach which she LOVED! Then had caprese salad and guacamole for supper. I'm obsessed with avocados and tomato and basil. Last time it was peas. I suppose avocados are v good for you. Nice craving to have except when you can't find any ripe ones in the shops...

ifyourehoppyandyouknowit · 23/06/2014 13:24

I have a sick monkey, got tummy plague. Which we''ve shared with bOi . Sigh.

It's lovely and sunny but can't really go out. Had to take him to the dentist with me this morning. Hygienist commented how much nice it was to see a child eating proper fruit instead of junk. Glad I left the fruit shoot and pom bears at home.

We haven't even if had our holiday this year and I'm already planning on next year's! I'm thinking of taking a ferry over Ireland and renting a cottage by a beach somewhere. Anyone got any recommendations?

Mopsy avocados are def good for you!

ptp leaving is a big leap, no one can blame you fr takit a bit of time.

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Chipandspuds · 23/06/2014 17:20

Sounds like you're having very healthy cravings Mopsy! I went through a brief craze for marmite and watercress sandwiches and spinach at around 6 weeks, then just went off a whole bunch of things!

Sounds like my idea of a lovely holiday Hop I'll be looking out for recommendations! We're taking DS to the Isle of Wight again in September to visit family - hoping for good weather so we can just go to a different beach each day!

Hope the poorly ones are feeling better ASAP! Not nice having a sick toddler!

mopsytop · 23/06/2014 21:12

Hmmm, just ate about ten Natural Confectionary Co. jelly snakes. Not so healthy. Oops.

Hop, there are loads of amazing places in Ireland. Just be prepared for rain. Usually it rains in bursts though, not all day. It can be sunny and warm one minute, lashing the next, cloudy, sunny again. Just being a raincoat and wellies.

West Cork and Kerry both gorgeous and amazing beaches. Waterford copper coast also lovely (and where we spent all our hols as kids as both parents from near there). Beautiful sandy beaches. Donegal also fabulous up the coast (town itself not up to much). Also Vonnemara of course. Then Wicklow is lovely too with fab beaches and hills. You can't really go wrong! One place that looks awesome to stay in Wicklow town is the Irish landmark trust lighthouse. But not suitable with a small kid. It is on my list for in a few years time.

mopsytop · 23/06/2014 21:12

Connemara!

Aethelfleda · 23/06/2014 21:50

DS is fine (phew)!

I have lost my mojo. Long day today and am just a bit tired of the never-ending to do list. If anyone finds my mojo please pop it in the post after giving it a quick choc-ice and slug of gin. Ta muchly.

mopsytop · 23/06/2014 21:59

Mmmm gin

mopsytop · 23/06/2014 21:59

Mmmm choc ice

Aethelfleda · 23/06/2014 22:04

Oi, mopsy, concentrate! Find that mojo for me!

(Is now the time to tell you that lidl do lush ice-cream-sandwiches half covered in chocolate 8 for £2?)

mopsytop · 23/06/2014 22:22

STOP it aethel!!! ugh ice cream cravings!

Go and google laughing babies on YouTube. That'll make you laugh too and get your mojo back!

Aethelfleda · 23/06/2014 22:26

Nope, I'm going to be virtuous and stop arsing around on MN and go and fill in me childcare forms for the holiday club. Joy....

OiMissus · 24/06/2014 08:13

Oi Oi Ladies, Well, it is done.
We had our conversation last night.
We were very calm and have decided to split up. We have the absolute aim to do whatever is best for BOi, and to become better friends than we are now. We accept that we have drifted apart and there is no blame on either side. There will be no financial claims on either side. (I'm not interested in child support, he's not interested in trying to take half the house, etc. - It's usually money that makes things acrimonious, and I'd rather see DH set up in a comfortable place that I'm happy for BOi to visit!)
I think that I can afford to stay where I am (might have to cut out the visits to Selfridges and waitrose, might have to wander into Aldi, and ah the horror primark! Never! never!! arghhhh! :)
Anyway, we were calm at the beginning. then we had a good cry. then I realised that that was my hopes of ever having another baby gone. - I'm trying not to think about that. One trauma at a time.
then we watched Mock the Week to try and lighten the atmosphere and relax.
then we went to bed. hugged and kissed.
Kissed!
I can't remember the last time I kissed him without recoiling!
We both laughed at how nice and natural it was.
And went to sleep.
We are splitting up.
I know many couples who have split up, who then learnt to appreciate what they had, and fell back in love with each other.
There's hope for us yet.

I woke up feeling the weight of everything, feeling it in the pit of my stomach. But I also am looking forward to it all being better soon.
I'm looking forward to relaxing, not gritting my teeth (subconsciously) all the time, always hunching my shoulders. Even when I feel relaxed - I'll find myself displaying all these symptoms of stress.
I'm looking forward to it all being better soon.

DH is confident that we can be friends, and therefore there's no need for him to leave work. Thank goodness! Hopefully, that'll be another thing that will keep us acting like grown ups and friends.

So, I think tonight we'll be making plans. Finding him somewhere to rent, in the short term. - He started to wonder where he could stay - I said, no. No sleeping on people's floors. we are friends. We get him set up comfortably.
I know there are books you can buy to help kids understand what's happening. I'll have a look if there's anything for toddlers.
Thankfully, as he's 2, it'll be easier now than later. But it's still going to be upsetting and confusing. We need to find the best way to explain it to him. Poor BOi.
(Sorry for long post - I know you don't mind - but I can't talk to anyone else in real life yet. We need to manage how this is communicated. - And those who know me in RL, obv. this is between us gels for the time being!)
My parents will be so upset. gah! it doesn't bear thinking about everyone else's disappointment.
What matters is that we are doing the best for the three of us. There'll be some tough times ahead. But this is for the best.

Figster · 24/06/2014 09:18

Oh Oi Thanks

You're amazing!!

OiMissus · 24/06/2014 09:34

Cheers, Fig.
I've found 2 books for Boi, and a book for us, to help us to help him. Hmm

mopsytop · 24/06/2014 09:37

Well done Oi. So difficult. Sounds like you are both handling it in the best way possible.

ifyourehoppyandyouknowit · 24/06/2014 11:15

Oi I think you should both be proud of how you are handling this, bOi will be fine. X

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Chipandspuds · 24/06/2014 13:43

I'm glad you've managed to have 'the conversation' Oi and that it went as well as it could. I'm sure bOi will be absolutely fine as well

mopsytop · 24/06/2014 21:26

Ugh lying in bed is already really painful due to pelvic girdle pain and I'm only just coming up to 4 months Sad