November 2012 - Thinking about first birthdays? Already?

[StuntNun]

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Ooh but Oscar has learnt a cool new skill! He figured out yesterday while playing with his best friend that he can put stuff inside other stuff So today at dinner he was picking up all of his pieces of food and putting them into the cup holder part of the highchair tray before taking them out to eat them. He then started stacking his food on top of his sippy cup and for his grand finale he managed to put a stacking ring back on its base No wondee he couldn't switch off for his nap and has been awake since half one, he's been developmentally leaping!

chasing moan away. And pls don't underestimate what you are going through, it is not easier than for example mine. It's different but as hard as it can get. You are so brave and I really admire you for doing this for O and for yourself. And yes, someone is waiting for you out there, he is kind, respectful, generous, loving, handsome and a great man.

pidj don't feel bad sometimes people need it spelt out, even people who care about us and would help but just don't see, iyswim.

My dog just got stung by a wasp again and is now refusing to go outside without one of us with him. And is all jittery round the flies. Luckily he's not having a bad reaction like he did once.

chasing that would certainly seem to explain it, clever O. We've had a nap refuser here too . Two actually. They have both gone quiet now. Hopefully sleeping rather than just recharging

Hallo.

Parents just left. They hadn't realised that I go back to work tomorrow. I did wonder. Dad kept talking about it 'soon being time to buy a new pencil case' and I kept saying it was bought and packed. They twigged eventually and obviously felt awful. It was lovely to see them though and p had a ball. We have no friends or family nearby who can help out so it is nice to see family for a while as it at least eases the boredom.

I think you have been deserving a break for a long time pp. I am amazed you haven't got to breaking point with your mum long before.

I am very impressed with O's new skills chasing. It is lovely when you see them finally master something. Or just suddenly start doing something that you had no idea they were even thinking about! How are you feeling now? Hopefully you will get a peaceful night and tomorrow is another day.

Same for lily. I was shocked when I read what your friend said to you and it has bimbled round my head all day. I think I know what she means but it is terribly insensitive and self-indulgent to say it. It is the sort of thing I can imagine popping into someone's head in a 'woe is me' moment before being pushed out by more rational thinking. I also really felt for you with the toilet seat moment. I can well imagine that it is these moments, long after others are back to their daily lives, that the real loss is felt.

How are you now stunt? What is DH up to? I don't know about you but I don't argue easily. Any falling out hits me very hard and I need a long time to work through it in my head. I don't so this with my DH but my sister is a really volatile person and would say terrible things before snapping back to happy and friendly. She couldn't understand why I could engage with her immediately after massive arguments. It's not the same as with a DH but I felt for you the way you described his lack of concern and your rising anxiety. I hope things are ok this evening.

How is j VQ? Are DH and the girls back?

And that verse is beautiful. I think I might print it and put it in my office for the kids to see. Sadly I have known very young girls to become victims of abuse at the hands of boyfriends because they simply didn't know how else life could be. I remember years ago imploring a girl to stop seeing her violent boyfriend and trying to tell her what loving and being loved should feel like. I realised then just how lucky I was to have found DH. Horse pisses and all

It must be quite odd YW trying to work with your boys in the house. I felt for you last night having a nice night out only for wee J to need nocturnal attentions.

I was interested to read chasing's post wondering about a change in the quiche. I think both pr and vq commented on how things do change and how much is going on for people. When you think about it there has been a massive amount of change and tough times for many of us. Going back to work or not, child care, relationships, unwell babies and loss. It feels a bit like we are in the eye of a storm. And I suppose in a storm we can't always expect to have gentle handholding - sometimes being grabbed by the scruff of the neck will keep us safer.

Very well put pass . Best of luck tomorrow

Very well put Pass better a hand on the scruff of the neck than sinking under the waves even if it might feel a bit abrupt at the time. I think all of the advice offered here is offered with the best of intentions. Even if we all have times we don't want to hear advice.

Glad you had a nice weekend with the senior crisps. Good luck for tomorrow!

Last night made me laugh. As we were tipsily walking up the street we joked that we'd find Jonas on the couch having auntie cuddles and lo and behold when we peeked in the bay window they were. Apparently after trying to settle him from a windy wake up - he realised it was my twin not me and he just kept . and chatting and wouldn't go back in the cot. No tears unless she tried to leave the room. Hence cuddling on the sofa. Her two are older so I think she loved baby cuddles too - he was happy as a sand boy so yep I'd definitely be happy for her to sit again.

He's had a huge tea tonight (he much prefers DH's cooking to mine he was all 'mmmmmm' 'omnom' 'mrrrmmmmm' for the entire meal!) so hopefully he'll sleep better.

Well put Pass indeed and also all the very best for tomorrow. I look forward to hearing all about it. At least you have a few days before the kids come back. J is mr whinge bag today and I do not know why. He had an awful night. I thought things were improving with the new meds but he is at the tail end of a cold and things are really thickening up so I guess they are harder to shift. Fucking colds. The family got back on Friday and it went from peace to chaos in seconds. It is lovely to have them back and I have had lots of cuddles and begging for sex from DH

Very well put pass. I was thinking today that collectively the quiche is probably going through its toughest time yet. Our babies are coming up to 9 months, which means returns to work, more independent babies, relationship woes coming to the fore and 9 months worth of crap sleep. I probably thought that this was the stage that everything would calm down, but pass is spot on about it being the eye of the storm. I think it is also testament to the strength of this group that we can offer such honesty to each other. It proves rather than disproves our closeness.

You excited about tomorrow pass?

pig you still alive?

Evening quiche! Hope a good day has been had by all....

Hey jj :) nice to hear from you. Checked out Boden for myself earlier. Expensive isn't the word

I shall have to try e with some sophia, probably keep him busy for a while and he's loving practising his pincer grip at the moment!

Oh stunt :( I'm so sorry to hear you've had an argument with your DH. I also find the arguments over petty things more difficult to deal with. I agree that you are very kind and you have alot of patience with your dh, he is very lucky to have you. I understand it seems he may have suffered as a child but it's unfair for him to treat his children and you the way he does. It sounds like he doesn't see that there's a problem with it? :( I do think it must be being made a million times worse with the lack of sleep at the moment :( You have your head screwed on better than pretty much everyone else I know, I am sure you'll work at it if you can, and make the best choices, and do what is right. You are always the voice of reason imo across the quiche. You and a few others.

A cake smash looks awesome!

chasing sounds like today is one of the tough days :( I have noticed those these days are fewer and further between than they were and you are doing so, so well. Just make it to the end of today, tomorrow is tomorrow and it could be a whole lot sunnier :)

vq that was a lovely verse. I am not at all religious but I enjoyed reading that. Just gave my dp a squeeze. He can be such a pain in the arse but he is a good man, a good father and a good partner. chasing yw is right, you'll get yours one day :)

chasing that's fantastical! What a clever little boy!

hope your dog is ok pr

pp i think it's high time you had a bit of a break, bless you.

pass you always know how to word it, it's a good job we've got you. I won't even try to put it in my own words so i'll just agree with you :)

Definitely pass. It's a tough old time for many.

LO is developmental leaping like some kind of giant frog. It's super scary. Every day comes with a new adventure. He's completely cracked stairs and cruising and climbing.
Do they tend to go from this to walking quite quickly? hides in fear

Chasing I did wonder the other day if I could set you up with my wonderful brother, some time down the road, then realised he is 49! He still turns the heads of young things though. I don't know what he has, but beautiful young ladies are always drawn to him, which is why I thought of you Several years ago he sent me a letter - I was in an abusive relationship at the time, and he hand wrote the lyrics of Bjork 'I miss you, but I haven't met you yet' and wrote at the bottom 'to my wonderful sister, who will not always be waiting' I was fucking furious with him!!!! But I kept the letter, indeed I still have it in my drawer of special things. Google the lyrics some time - one day you will get your cuddle x

Just google the lyrics - the song music ruins them

pikz my mum announced that she would give p no more than a month to be waking. Yipes!

I am glad what I said made sense. Feel free to grab me by the scruff anytime ladies.

I am looking forward to going back actually. If we can get the logistics right I think we will all be fine. I miss the buzz of school. I miss being at the centre of things. I know I am at the centre of something totally different now so just a different centre really. I think the kids are back with us on Tuesday so that will be another challenge.

Come on weins! Let's be avving you!

Pass there's always the offer of a brew at chez wellies at lunchtimes

Hope all goes well tomorrow pass and am glad you appreciated your family being round you this weekend.

Hope you are ok.chasing and stunt

I am tired and in bed, just abut to swap I pad for kindle. Night night all. I hope you all have a good one.

Xx

YW ! Ya know, in my sadder moments thinking about how my pal has gone to another school I did sniff and think "well, I could always go and see yw"

Those lyrics are lovely vq. And how lovely of your brother. What a star.

I am against cake smash. It sends the wrong message and there is no need for it. And I would never ever waste food like that, especially not a cake. It's just a new phenomenon but not a good one.

I google the lyrics.

That was me before I met DH.

I met him in the corridor of the LeMon Hotel and Country Club near Belfast and I knew there and then something changed in me forever.

Sorry, really will go now. X

Thank you. Dp and i ranted at each other earlier that nobody seems to give a shit about helping us. Dsil, despite having 2 dc, 1 with significant sn, has had R's 10 mo cousin for the day twice recently. Ok, they live closer but ffs she has enough on her plate, they should be taking hers out to give her a break Dn without sn (dn with would hate it) has an open invitation to come and stay, he was here a week aged 3. Respite, to the limited extent i can manage. Anyway, as a result of this little rantling dp is texting her to suggest he comes away camping with us at the end of August :o

VQ, that's a year older than dp

Oh yes, cake smash. I could never do that. Just looking at the link I could hear my mothers voice saying how very wasteful and scurrying off to find the picture of the little starving African boy I was shown as a child when I did not eat all my dinner. Poor little chap had a bone sticking out of his leg too. Yes I am emotionally scarred by this.

My brother is the most wonderful man on this planet. DH knows and accepts this.

Your brother sounds wonderful VQ, if 20 years older than me

I googled the lyrics. Then cried. Then read sophia's post. And cried again.

Bjorn just killed those lyrics. Don't listen to it.

Ditto Lily i was trying to find the words to say that without being rude