December 2011 (drop-in) - The Trouble With Dribbles

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Sleep regression settles with time... In practice many mums at this stage introduce formula or food to "try and fill baby up more" though it happens just as much in formula fed and mixed-milk babies.
DD1 was given solids at 4 months and slept through at 5 months.
With my DD2 her 12 week to seven month preference was waking for milk at 11/1/3/5.
I tried a night bottle of formula (was BFing at 12 weeks). Then solids. Then mixed feeding and solids.
At seven months she suddenly and inexplicability started sleeping 7pm-7am, that was on four 200ml formula bottles, two breastfeeds and three mush meals a day!
In hindsight I don't think any one thing made the difference, she was just developing and a hungry chunky baby!

We are on full on sleep regression too with hourly wakings. I started crying last night with exhaustion and I am not a crier, I have a migraine and just in a foul mood. Still no rolling or anything else here though.

I don't even have the energy to think about food at the moment although still hoping to get her to take a bottle at some point. I can't decide whether to blw or puree, I suspect the childminder wouldn't be too keen on giving a baby chunks of food and since dd is a bottle refusnik I need to make sure she gets a decent amount of something in her during the day. Are people using childcare doing blw, how are you explaining the concept to the care providers?

Will come back and catchup with everyone's posts soon. The upside of being up half the night is that I am catching up on my podcasts, would rather sleep though .

Sorry about me me.

fusam no need to apologise, I feel very sorry for those still on night feeds, I know how lucky i am, getting up at 5 was a badnight for me.

Eva ate her rice quite well, much more successful than last time I tried.

I'm thinking about taking DH and the DC's to Chessington next week, there doing 2 days for the price of 1 if you stay at their hotel, £178 for the 4 of us. Is it good for children? DS is nearly 4.

Well BJR, he certainly can't wait to do it- whether that translates as confidence I don't know! He got me to write him a manual and I've booked him and DS onto a post-natal group to encourage him to get out as we've no family and DP has no friends locally.

Without wanting to sounds horrible, as I do love the man dearly, it'll be the first time in his life where his wants are secondary, and he'll have to run around looking after someone, rather than the other way round as his parents have provided for his every whim his entire life.

You both have it so tough fusam and never; if all you're doing is being grumpy then you're managing bloody well in my book. Sleep deprivation is the worst, as (unless we're talking proper MH stuff) it's the one thing that changes your personality, your ability to think, and your ability to enjoy life really. Knowing it'll get better doesn't really help either, but it will.

Your DD2 sounds exactly like my DS aethel, although the past few nights, as it's been a bottle and not mummy-on-draught, he's had dummy and just one feed which I guess is OK as he'd let me know if it were not! I get a feeling that once he's into solids he'll start going through, but we'll have to see.

Managed to sort all the bank stuff this afternoon, and am sorting out the top of the chest of drawers which has all of my jewellery and hair stuff and an inch of dust in advance of returning to work, deep joy!

Sleep regression sucks. Really really sucks. I can't work out what the hell Cass is doing with his sleep. We were in a nice pattern of bed at 7, feed at 12, feed at 5, up for the day at half 7, then short nap at 10, long nap at 1, short nap at 5. Now? He's been waking every hour from midnight onwards this week and the he slept for a weirdly long time last night. He's trying to drop the morning nap (but then cries because he's tired) and is having these epic afternoon naps (for 2 or 3 hours!). I just can't see hte pattern to it at the minute, and it's making going out and doing anything a total nightmare, as I never know when he's going to be tired and when we need to have him somewhere he can sleep. I guess we just need to stick it out though. Lots of cake and coffee all round? Big hugs to fusam and never, keep hanging in there.

My house is a tip, and even though he's been having these huge naps, I just can't get motivated to do anything about it. I'm too tired and TBH, a bit fed up. Didn't think I would ever say this, but I miss going to work. I'm not ready to go back, but I'm not feeling very.... fullfilled?! (not sure that's the right word). We've got lots of stuff planned for the next couple of months (started swimming lessons, and doing a baby massage course) so am hoping that doing more activities will cheer me up a bit.

RE BLW and mush food. I think we're going to wait another few weeks, then try a little bit of mush, but probably mostly do BLW (or a mix). He's not very interested at the minute, just sits in the bumbo looking around while we eat.

That was it. My last day of mat leave. and as we had a settling session at the nursery, I went to work for s couple of hours. I haven't even had any cake.
Spent the afternoon with SIL and niece. She's given us loads if big Fisher Price toys that her LO is too old for now.
This weekend I'll be finding work clothes and shoes, like you northern. We moved house a couple of months ago and I low that some things are still in boxes.
Alistair didn't feed at nursery. But he did play around with the Calma, and probably took an ounce. I'll keep trying him with it, I think we'll get there. otherwise he was fine at nursery.

If swearing offends please look away now.

Fucking shit day over here. DS1 screeched, whined and was obnoxious all day. I well and truly lost it this afternoon following yet more awful behaviour which left poor DS2 crying while I dealt with it. Just fed up of the nappy changing of DS1 who is 2.8 and still denying doing poos in his nappy when the stench is perfectly obvious. Bob only knows how we are ever going to do potty training.

Really pissed off with the drudgery of day to day life with two small children. Whilst I love them to bits today has totally done my head in. What I really feel like doing is getting shitfaced. Clearly not an option though. Thank bob DH now home. How lone parents like lmf do it I have no idea.

I will join you in a Oi, as today is my last day too. I'm not in on Monday, as have taken it as A/L to give us a bit of handover, but still... A few tears sprang out when DP was home. Of course, he's on a high and is soooo looking forward to the next five months. I know that it's great that DP can do a chunk of the mat leave, and I feel for you having the anxiety (and expense!) of nursery already.

It is bloody hard work never, and even if you can't get shitfaced, you can surely have a couple? Hope tomorrow is better.

Just a quick one: Sky has only drank 2 bottles of milk and ate her baby rice should I be worried? she seems okish bit grizzly think her teeth are bothering her and she's a bit constipated.

dsm for one day, I wouldn't be too worried. Could be teeth, or slightly uneasy tummy. If it continues tomorrow, I'd probably call someone for advice.
never I feel for you. DS will get there, he's probably just having a bit of an ishoo with the whole toilet thing. Get thee some wine. Get hammered. Tis Friday. The government and the Daily Mail expects you to binge drink, do not disappoint them.
northern nursery is just for 1.5 days, mum's doing 2 days, SIL doing 1 day. So I'm really, really lucky. I'm not at all anxious about Ali not being with me -yet! We just need to get him feeding. I'll tell you next week how much I miss him when I jack my job in and buy a little terraced house with my savings.

Didn't realise that you had two rellies helping out too Oi, that's great! And good for BOi too to get a mix of people looking after him and doing different things.

eyes savings in order to put down deposit on house with Oi and the two boys

Hi ladies

Feel lousy, tickly cough, sneezing, face ache...meh

Happy Birthday to Kate's dd, hope she had a wonderful day

Sympathies to all with non sleeping babies and sleep regressed babies. I'm firmly in the latter group with anything from one to three wake ups - last night was 2! Dp out tonight so I'm taking advantage and going to bed early with a book!

Sorry for non name checks but typing while propping up ds on his side on my lap! Should put him in his cot but he looks so beautiful when asleep and every waking moment Anyway:

To those finishing mat leave, all the best with return to work! Must be daunting in some ways but exciting in others. I don't return until October and struggled with it last time but have an action plan for this time to make the transition easier. I will say that once you get your routines sorted, it does make things smoother! It's a military operation!

To those feeling down in the dumps with the drudgery of running the house, doing most of the childcare and people thinking maternity leave is a breeze - I'm with you, sistas! Sometimes I look at all the things that need doing and feel so overwhelmed, I just want to return to my old life when I lived on my own in my flat in town - just for a couple of days, I love my life mostly!

Never, sorry can't remember if your ds1 goes to nursery some days a week? If not, do you have family that could take the boys for an afternoon so you can have a bit of time to recharge? I'm lucky that we can cover dd's nursery fees during my mat leave because it means I get 3 days with just ds so not as full on. The 2 week days with both are relentless, I don't get a moments peace especially when dd is having 'one of those days'. Re the potty, my dd is dry in the day but still struggles with her poos. She has done them on the potty but prefers to wait for her nighttime nappy which is annoying! She is 2.11 so a bit older, maybe you should forget potty training for now and wait until he takes an interest in wanting to wear big boy pants and tells you when he has poo'ed? Then least ds2 will be older too so a bit less work (haha).

I'm in the mood for eating rubbish....should go to bed to avoid that!

I have and music and a book. DD2 went to sleep at 6.30!

Hope those who are going back to work on Monday have great weekends.

never much sympathy on the nappies, however, if it helps, DD1 was like this then potty trained overnight at a couple of weeks before 3 without a single accident ever.

Plans for the weekend people?

Miri proofing here, the little creature can bloody move! She does a good line in rolling over and over to get where she wants to go and can commando crawl slooooooowly.

No idea what I am going to do with the several hundred million tiiiiiny, perfect for a baby to choke on bits of Playmobil.

I am currently in stitches listening to DSS singing "wake me up before you gogo cos I'm not planning I'm riding solo" heehee!

We're off to a 'family day' at the local Children's Centre tomorrow - it's 10-12 so not quite a day! Meeting up with friends and kids there then going somewhere for lunch afterwards.

Probably catch up with the GPs on Sunday and that's it for plans!

Multiple rolling and slow commando crawling?! Wow that's good, how many weeks is Miri again? Ds is 18 weeks today and has rolled on to his side once!! He can shuffle places on his back though so not completely immobile, bless him

I'm currently waiting for an ebayer to message me re an offer to end my auction early. It's for some railway sleepers but might have gone in too high because they're taking their time...I'm not good at negotiating!

This evening can fuck right off:( My four year old keeps upchucking all over his bed (just put the third and last set of clean bedding on) the last time while I was feeding the octopus, so I had to leave him wailing inconsolably in his crib while I sorted his brother out:( I have a duvet and cover, two sheets, three blankets and two pillows and cases to wash tomorrow:(

Sorry, just crappy end to the week:(

I can't remember how many weeks Eva is! Does that make me a bad mother?

I can't believe people are returning to work already, it only seems five minutes ago they were tiny newborns.

dsm how long has Sky been having solids? After two days of solids when I first tried weaning a couple of weeks ago she started taking less milk, I stopped giving them to her and her milk intake went up again. If she's still not interested tomorrow perhaps cut out her solids or give her less for a couple of days to see if that's what's making the difference? I'm sure aethel will be here with more knowledgeable advice soon!

Cancel Chessington, I'm eyeing up the national space centre in Leicester, anyone been there? DS has spent hours over the last few days watching space shuttle launches on YouTube!

Sorry about the vomit lmf.

Ok, am stupidly upset as dh has to go away for three days next week, so I will be solo monkey wrangling for most of the week. And I'm feeling guilty because I would sell my own mother for a couple of nights in a lovely quiet hotel room, with no bottles of milk or nappies and a full nights sleep. And I feel crap for wanting that because I know it would kill me to leave Cass. Blah, motherhood sucks sometimes.

Sorry lmf, x posted. I agree with neverenough, I don't know how you manage! I hope your DS is better soon.

LMF, poor you, that is grim. Hope your ds1 has ceased on the vomfest and your weekend starts a better week for you.

Seven, I have count in my head how old ds is and always stumble over the answer when someone asks!

Easily, its a perfectly natural feeling especially when you're tired so try not to feel bad. You'll cope better than you think next week, in fact, you'll probably get into a nice routine and then your dh will home! Have you family nearby to support you? On an entirely different subject and please excuse the insensitivity but did my pm re the fb group reach you? Don't worry if it did, I'm just don't know how to check if it sent!

He's in bed clutching a bowl, he's nothing left but still feels grim. If he can keep from hurling for an hour he can have some calpol as its magic stuff according to him. I suspect if we liberally coated the planet in it we'd have works peace:o

Sorry, crap humour. Thanks for the kind thoughts:)

Sorry that others are having crap days/weeks too. I think a communal life-haddocking may be in order.

Right, all's quiet so I'm going to try for half an hour before one of the boys wakes me. Here's hoping its his tentacliness and that his big brother sleeps it all off now:s

Sorry, I'm semicomatose. Normal service will be resumed if when I've had some sleep.....

lmf hope it's getting better.
easily my DH goes away quite often, and actually, LO settles more easily with just me. We snuggle up and chill out. It's easier. But don't tell him that.
Just watched "four lions" - brilliant! V funny.
msbuggy miri is more advanced in the moving stakes than Ali. They have the same birthday. And the other thing we have in common is that i also have wine.

I should add that it's amazing how in sync our LO's are. After getting into some form of routine, they now all seem to be favouring the "wake at 1, 3, 5" routine, with the added screamfest somewhere therein. If they weren't all innocent little babies, I'd say they were talking to eachother.

lmf hope the vomiting is settling and you're getting some sleep. Really feel for you.

I've been up at 1045, 12, 1, and now with one or the other of the boys. Had the same last night. Struggling to cope. It's getting back in to a cold empty bed that I hate. Missed a call from DH today and haven't spoken to him in over a week.