fab feb 2011 ladies getting back in shape and sleeping till ten-yeah right!

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Hi all as im up first most mornings i thought id start a new thread before i bury pil under the patio

reastie - L is v difficult to settle for naps in his cot (though he does self-settle at bedtime ). I've started putting him in his cot then laying on the bed next to him so he can see me but not talking to him. He usually carries on for a minute or two then lays down and goes to sleep. I've had about a 70% success rate with it. I do have to stay for about 5 minutes after he's gone to sleep then sneak out of the room.

Also, instead of taking Alice out while PILs are there, can you leave her with them and get some time to yourself?

american do you still have the cot in your room then or does he sleep on your bed? I'd be too scared to leave the rollover monster alice sleeping in my bed. She still hasn't had her nap btw - I gave up and now it's tipping down with rain outside and I am NOT going out in that so she will have to go without or sort herself out in her buggy in the playroom.

Re: taking alice out/leaving alice - blizy I do not do soft play, full stop and american call me a mad control freak but I don't want pils tactics to pay off and they get time alone with alice if I go out . Do you think DH would get annoyed if I said I was taking alice out because I was annoyed at PILs coming over unnecessarily?

needto how was the new playgroup?

ems to disneyland, bet you'll the boys will love it

american yes we have reins, we just got a cheap pair from Amazon. They are v useful actually. We used them alot on holiday and found them v useful. She gets more freedom when walking and we still feel in control/that she's safe. Plus, it's good if she falls over as the reins sort of catch her a bit so we can stop her going head first into the ground like she did the first day of our holiday before we put the reins on - opps

Hi everyone!

Hmm, it's taken ages to catch up and now I can't remember!

Reastie - some sound advice, as always, from Tad and Ledkr. Would your DH agree to some counselling for himself, do you think? It's a shame you couldn't record one of his outbursts and play it back to him. He might be shocked if he knew what he sounded like.

4for - yay for Archie! :o He'll love being able to run around after the others now :) love the fact that he was calling for his brother!

Still no steps here :o (although DH said she did a couple for him but I haven't seen and tgere have been none since) I quite like it as she seems like such a baby but on the other hand there are some times when I think it would be so much easier if she could walk eg. We were at the park and she wanted to be out of the pram but didn't want to be carried but I didn't want her crawling on the Tarmac (lots of old food other children had dropped and spat out chewing gum) so we had lots of whinging! Also, when we're in the garden she ends up filthy!

Ponyo, I wished I was nearer, I would gladly look after A while you're at the funeral . Well done for meeting with OW.

Hi to everyone else!

Well the tooth doesn't look too bad. I think as it wears down with chewing and time I think it will just look normal. Isabel chipped her tooth on a cup, when she was small and it's barely noticeable now. At least it's just the milk tooth - my nephew smashed his front adult teeth when he was about 6 and had to have them capped. Luckily, they weren't far through (if that makes sense).

I've been to book Isabel's fifth birthday party at our local soft play today. She's going to be so excited - she's been talking about it since December! I couldn't believe it when in January she asked me how many sleeps it would be until her birthday! Er...about 190 love. Doesn't help that she's one of the youngest in her year and a lot of her friends have had parties :o

reastie meet up with me when pils are here!! I don't think YABU to go out, it sounds like you'll be seeing plenty of them so it's not like you're totally avoiding them. FWIW I think your DH should just take the damn frame round there and tell his parents it's not convenient for them to come over, but easier said than done, eh.

You have my every sympathy with the sleep thing, Imy went through a stage of only sleeping if I took her for a walk, bloody exhausting and boring. I hate naps though, I can't wait till mine grow out of them, Imy still needs one and she's 3 FGS!!

Imy didn't want to leave pre school today!!! I had to drag her out!!!

blizy you must be approaching the end of your 2ww now, how are you feeling?

Balls!

I wrote that post at 2 o clock and only just posted it so x posted loads!

reastie - his cot is in his room which also doubles as the guest bedroom so there's a double bed next to his cot. I've always put him in his cot, otherwise he'll be all over the room and def not napping. He always throws any toys out of his cot (followed by his socks) so he really has no choice but to sleep. It doesn't always work, sometimes I have to drive him around or use the sling. Is there a chair in Alice's room that you could sit in? Also, head first into the ground is L's favourite activity.

at L throwing his toys and socks out of his cot! L does that too!

have the school run to do now. It's freezing and pissing it down!

reastie D has never napped easily or in cot.I have to rock or push her to sleep always and its a miracle if it takes less than 20 mins
Ive given up tbh.I walked her in the rain to toddlers today and she went to sleep so i dropped in at the library and read books for the 20 mins i allowed her to nap and then went on to toddlers.It was nice.

As for pil yes why dont you go out for the day,show them you are not at their beck and call.I only dont do it cos they licve so far away so i would be mean to do it.

I think the amount they visit is normal but still annoying iyswim.

I a stressful few minutes earlier. D was asleep so i ran around and got Ellas dancing stuff packed including her packed tea.Then i got my gym stuff ready and peeld veg for tea. She then woke up and screamed inexplicably for about 15 mins whilost i tried to get her,the buggy,the bags into the car,put on coats and boots etc. When i reached the car and was about to load up i realised id left my keys in the house and so had to go back to get them. By now it was a biblical monsoon with massive hail stones and we were soaked,my macara was down on my chin and i was close to screaming I just love those moments

robin Have you ever noticed it always rains at school run time?I have.

Hi to everyone else xx

ledkr oops! I was caught in one of those freaky showers today too.

debka Af due on Sunday but I have started my usual spotting so thats us out for the month. I am going to make an appoitment with the GP, thats us been ttc for a year now. I am hoping he will do blood tests to check if I'm ovulating.

Do you still have a hosepipe ban where you live ledkr? It does sound really stressful, sorry. Hope you didn't get too wet either Robin.

Reastie it's a shame you find your ILs so annoying. Do you think they feel they don't see their gd often enough can't broach the subject like adults and therefore try to engineer extra meetings? I think I would arrange a trip out on Saturday about half an hour after they arrive, then you haven't denied them time with Alice, whom they presumably love and are thrilled with, but you're also not beholden to them. Then if they complain that they thought they were spending time with her, you can say you thought they were they to do DIY with dh.

Fingers x'd for excellent napping and sleeping activity with the babies. Enjoy your evenings!

reastie I wouldnt tell dh its cos of that just say you had plans or you will look petty

tad As far as i know yes we do have the ban and the rqain has made no difference.Bt then if you remember we had floods here a few yrs ago and we had no water from the mains

blizy yep Drs time i think. How long did it take to concieve Zoe? I so remember the frustration. I even gave up and got a new job Its also happened to a few mates.
I remember smug bastards saying "oh i always get pg straight away,im very fertile" Yeah right with your two kids you would know that you got pg first time twice you morons! haha

ledkr With Zoe it was literally first shag! Thats why I'm so and confused about the time it is taking!

Gosh ledkr the biblical moments . Did I mention before I went on holiday I actually locked Alice in my car? My car keys were in the car (not in the ignition though ) and alice was standing in front seat locked in. All a bit complicated to get her out but thank goodness I managed it and Alice didn't even seem to notice!

tad we have a hosepipe ban here too and it's tipping it down

american I followed your advice. It took nearly an hour but she fell asleep in her cot for a nap. Wasn't until nearly 4:30 and only lasted 20 minutes but it's something. She seemed fine in her cot unusually all the time I was sitting next to her

blizy a friend of mine took a year or so to conceive and she had her tubes or ovaries or something flushed????? Have no idea what that means but might be worth looking into. She had it on NHS. She did conceive in the end btw.

tad PIL have ALWAYS engineered tenuous visits ever since Alice was born. We invited them round regularly but for the first 4 months or so of ALices life they thought of an excuse to come over EVERY WEEK END sometimes MIL would come over more often saying things like she'll just drop something very unimportant we don't really want at the door and won't knock and disturb us, and then do just that. They are manipulative and that's unlike me to say such things. SIL has had similar issues. Since then I've got strict with DH about not wanting it so often. Plus MIL has alice every week when I work now. It had been going well until now...

I can't stand manipulative people, reastie. My MIL is the same, full on tears and you are so selfish you never think of me kind of tantrum. In any case, a trip out, just you and Alice will do you the power of good with all the stress you are under.

Get thee to a doctor blizy. A bit of clomid sorted me out with A and an airbed

RobinSparkles Sofia is the youngest in her year and I remember her first year of primary school she kept going to 5th birthday parties and asking when it was her turn. I succumbed to soft play party too and it was brilliant, so easy. The staff were great, kids dropped off, bit of a play, food then parents picked them up again. All done 'n' dusted in about 2.5 hours

blizy go to your GP, I had a series of bloodtests done over a few months, around the same time every month to check I was ovulating.

reastie Anna doesn't nap in her cot at all now, in the car or buggy or downstairs. I'm just happy she sleeps in her cot at night Oh I'd go out while pils were there as well but as tad suggested I'd wait until they arrived, then head out so they don't hang about waiting on you to come back Tbh I'd go out on my own and leave A but I'm quite quick at palming the girls off in general

Grannys party tomorrow, have spent today with my sister and mum organising table displays [snore] I dropped Olivia into nursery today and mentioned to the teacher that she wouldn't be in tomorrow and the whole class made my granny a huge 100 card and put Olivias handprints etc in it. Isn't that the sweetest thing? Mr W had something in his eye when they gave it to him at pick up

ponyo xxx

I wish dh was here, I need a hug.

wiggles the card is very cute. I hope the party goes well and that the birthday girl has a fab time.

(((((blizy)))))) xxxxx

Aw whats up blizy? {{{{hugs}}}}
I know im ovulating cos i get yucky discharge tmi sorry. I also get excruciating pain in my side grrrrr.
At least when you see the dr you will feel as if you are doing something instead of just waiting.

wiggs 100??? Gosh thats lovely.will she get her telegram from that stupid woman who we pay to keep

Thank you debka I am just feeling sorry for myself. I have left the angels and rainbows conception thread, I am the only one left who has not been pg, is pg or had a baby. It is just too much. God I'm in a right old self pity mode tonight. I think Alfie cat can sense it as he has not left my side all evening, at the minute he is snuggled up snoozing on my chest.

blizy big squeeze, spare shoulder and an ear for you to rant xx Agree with ledkr, make the appt - you'll feel you are doing something proactive xx

ledkr yes, she should have received her telegram today, fingers crossed she hasn't thrown it in the fire Don't think my granny will be overly impressed, she's not a fan but I organised it so that I could get a copy of it for any of the girls future bloody family tree projects. Thinking ahead after my rainforest project meltdown The Irish Govt sends her a telegram and 1,500 Euros , thats the way to do it!

ledkr I get that too and poitive ov sticks, but you can still have the signs and ovulation fails.

It doesn't help that dh is away with work every week now, we only have the chance to the dtd at the weekends (rubbish when ov is during the week). I just think that Zoe was and is my only chance at being a Mummy, I want a living child to love and care for, I have so much love to give and no one to give it to. I know there are people worse off than me but it doesn't make it hurt any less.

Sorry for moaning on here but I don't really have anyone in RL to talk to about this.

?1500 wiggles???? Really???? Wow! My Granny and Grandad got a card from the queen for one of their wedding anniversaries (I forget which one but it was a big one), it was a card with a picture of the queen on it and not even a real signature on it and no money inside either

blizy > I agree re: making appointment - it will help you just to feel that you are doing sth to help. You have been through so much and it must feel like you've been ttc for so long. Is DH still away with work alot in general btw?

deb forgot to say at the comment to meet up. We shall have to pencil a date in . I may take Alice and leave PIL to the very important job of examining the bench frame but not sure yet where I'd take her or how DH won't think I'm just getting Alice out of the house for this purpose

x posted blizy although it may not feel like it now I really believe your time will come and you will be and are such a wonderful wonderful mummy. It's frustrating DH is away so much though. I think of you often (and keep fingers and toes still crossed for you) but I'm not nearly as good at explaining myself and getting the words right on here than others. Big hug to you and Alfie cat xx

blizy its just pain, hurt and panic talking. I used to think that I would never have a child because I had done a few stupid things when I was younger in my earlier twenties. That it was payback for a few fuck ups I had made. It took me so long to conceive Sofia that I was convinced I was being punished or that I would be such a crap Mum that I wasn't going to get a chance. I didn't go to the Dr because I was afraid I would have been proved right, I was a bit of a head in the sand dick about it .

I don't know why it took me so long to have Sofia but I do think a bit of it was that deep down I didn't think I deserved a baby.

Thank you all, i really don't know where I would be without your support.
for you all.