July 2010: Their speech is improving but it's sleep we're still losing

[DesperateHousewife21]

Welcome back everyone!

Ok, i have to have some advice or something. D is DRIVING ME NUTS!! He is in a proper whinge phase, he absolutly loves my mom and dad but was horrid to them at the weekend, he wouldnt go near them and cried every time i left the room even if i carried on talking. The whinging is unbelievable, he just doesnt stop, on and on and on he goes untill he work's himself up into a crying snotty blob and i have to intervene unless i want face juice smeared everywhere. What do u do about the whinging, its awfull and i cant cope with it. I had a mini melt down yesterday about it, its all aimed at me and i really done know how to cope or handle it at all. Is this the terrible twos? he is really disobedient as well, just wont cooperate with anything, really really hard work! And i was worried that he would be put to one side when F came,how stupid! He is the center of attention and much more of a worry than f!

I really need to get a smartphone! Just got home, L hasn't been happy at all with me being away. Benaiah was born by emcs yesterday lunchtime after I went onto labour, having a cuppa then off to bed - didn't much sleep last night. Thanks for all the thoughts, I'll update tomorrow!

vik sounds more like he's teething or unwell than terrible twos. how long's he been like it?

tsc i literally just said to dh - when A's better and her other last canine has broken thru (should be v soon), i'm weaning her and you'll need to deal with her so let me know when you can. 2yo was always my furthest end point for bf and i can't believe i've got as close as this! i'm heartily (and nippily) sick of it now.

how about you?

i think woodlands is the only other one of us bf her july 2010.

chul lovely to have you back safely with your teeny tiny newborn. hope L forgives you quickly. what does S make of baby B? pics!!! and birth story!

all peaceful there after the bum explosion mlic?

random question... those of you on fixed rate mortgages or about to get one - how long are you fixing for?

Just got computer back (finally). Off to read all the posts since 4th March...

Welcome home chu!! Hope everything settles dawn quickly, cant believe they let you out so soon, im assuming everything went well then and hes feeding well.
tsc the whinging might be teeth but as he has 16 right now and has had for a while its probably unlikley. cake he is snotty but is there ever a time when they are not atm. He still has these loose nappies thats been going on for about 6 weeks now, had two samples done and both have come back as negative. He is really bad when people are at the house and seems to be bad i go off to do something, eg cook dinner etc, i think tried ignoring it yesterday and it escalated to proper screaming. i think im going to have to really go against all my instincts to get angry and stay very very calm, it seems to be the only way, other wise i might explode. We are generally very attentive and couldnt be acused of not playng with him or giving him the attention he needs, so god knows why hes like this!
oh and F has another cold, poor baby!

Glad you're home chul :) How are things with L and S today?

Welcome back wss! It shouldn't take you long to catch up, it's been pretty quiet round here lately :(

No cake, I had a traumatic afternoon, to say the least. At about 3.50pm I realised I couldn't find the dog. I looked everywhere I could think of and then rang dh in a panic, who came home from work. He checked the camera (we've had one ever since our neighbours saw someone in our garden with his pants down) and couldn't see him escaping out the front. An hour and a half later (and I was beside myself by this point) I realised I hadn't checked the garage. And there he was. Never been so relieved in all my life! I might call him but I was petrified someone had taken him - that they wouldn't know he was on medication and that he'd get very poorly without it and I had images of someone stealing him to fight Then bathtime came and ds2's bottom exploded once again. In the bath. So that was me scrubbing out the bath until 6.45pm. So after all that we had a takeaway and I fell asleep on the couch at 9pm!

W is a constant whinging nightmare and E is refusing to eat anything for tea - 3 nights in a row he hasn't eaten. Both are waking around 6/6.15am and they're driving me potty! Vik I feel for you, W is always like that. He hit the terrible twos at about 11 months old so don't ask me He's still very miserable. Even silly things like if he trips and falls (and doesn't hurt himself I mean) he won't just get up and carry on like a normal child, he makes a complete drama out of it. He stays where he is, crying his eyes out. He won't get up, I have to pick him up. They fight all the time over toys, food, everything. All I hear all day is bickering and screaming.

Moan, moan, moan. Haha!

chul welcome home! hope you got a decent sleep last night!
mlic what a stressful day for you! glad your dog hadnt been taken, mums staff got out the back gate twice before xmas and I was panicing as the town has two gypsy camps in outer areas,I worry they would steal him to fight, then realise he is a softy and use him as bait :( but he just potters back each time to see me in meltdown asking strangers have you seen my dog?
tsc how do you think F is going to take you refusing him the boob?
viks do you think it could be because of the changes to his life with getting a brother? or just terrible twos? have you spoken to the HV, they may have some ideas or advice?
L slept all night but then woke at 5.30 and has been up since, I had planned a day in the garden today but its rained all night, so no plans now apart from to mop the floor

I hear ya re the whinging Vik - J has been the same for about a week now and it's doing.my.head.in. It's just constant, and he's really clingy and only I will do. I wouldn't mind if he wanted to sit on my lap or whatever but it's more when I'm trying to do things, he's constantly putting his arms up to me and whinging 'Mummy, Mummy' and then when I pick him up he wants to get down again. If I am sitting down he'll again ask to be picked up and then fling himself around a bit (and ask to BF, he's wanting to feed loads just now) and then fight his way down again. It is hard work! Calpol doesn't seem to help so I don't think it's teeth or other pain. My only thought is that his speech seems to be suddenly (finally) taking off just in the last few days so I'm wondering if it's just associated with a developmental leap.

so yes, am still BFing J and more than usual - I've never known him ask to feed so much, it's quite unlike him, so am generally going with the flow as he obviously needs the security just now. Plus it's about the only chance I get to sit down peacefully without him whining at me. I've not got a particular date in mind to stop - I always thought I'd stop before he turned two but there doesn't seem much point setting an artificial end point unless there's a reason to do so. I still enjoy it, it means I get at least 20 mins snuggled up with him in bed in the morning before I have to get up, he's fine without me all day, he's not waking in the night for milk (at the moment, touch wood), plus it still probably uses 250 calories a day which is a bloody good reason to keep going to my mind! The only reasons to stop are that it would be nice if we could have a child-free night/weekend away before we start TTCing no 2 (in fact we were hoping to have a night away for our fifth wedding anniversary next month but am not sure that will happen) and also DH is getting a bit twitchy about me still BFing. I will see how it goes. I don't think wanting a child-free night is really a good enough reason to stop for now, I think if I do I'll look back in years to come when there will be plenty of chances to have child-free time and wonder why I wished this time away.

J broke DH's glasses this morning... he was not happy...

You know the day isn't going to end well when you're already tucking into the onion rings at 10am

tsc how long did Clara bf for? she came off it ok didn't she? are you thinking Franks wont want to co-oporate so well? when do you go away?

mlic we went to a party a few weeks back and L polished off a bowl of those! cant you say onions are one of your 5 a day? for breakfast I have had 2 cups of tea, 8 biscuits and about to eat a kitkat, I am eyeing up the packet of Quirks I bought yesterday as my lunch even though I have bought a healthy soup!
woodlands when do you plan on starting TTC?
everything ok spirael when you pop bck on I cant find the recipe for paneer curry if you wouldnt mind could you put it on here again?

L hasnt eaten lunch for weeks, and not eaten tea for 3 days he just wants to live on porridge and biscuits!

mmm biscuits. We have no food in the house, need to go to Sainsbury's when I pick J up from nursery.

Planning to ttc this summer/autumn - we're going on holiday to France in July and I want to be able to enjoy all the nice wine/cheese etc, but ideally would like to be pregnant before January as if it was after then J and the new baby would be four school years apart - would prefer it to be three years apart because a) it's a year less childcare costs with a summer baby and b) fewer years going to different schools. But of course you can't always plan for these things! Will see what happens.

woodlands I was wanting to be pg by this time next year but the shallow vain side of me is thinking about putting it back, my best friend is getting married in April, he wants me on his stag weekend and his gf wants me on the hen the week after, and I dont want to be fat in their wedding photos, the last stint of wedding I went to I couldnt go on the hen do's as I was ready to pop or just given birth and it was the same for the weddings!

I never, ever want to be pregnant again. HTH

Well i can beat all this unhealthy food talk and tell you that me and D have just had eggy bread for lunch!!! How bad is that! He has a filthy cold and so does F so we didnt go to group this morning and it sucks coz even though the people are a bit suspect i actually look forward to going. So i have been at my childrens disposal this morning and its not been so bad. Poor F is so snotty and he has such a teeny tiny nose, such ashame. D is now eating a custard cream! haha, as long as hes happy i just dont care any more.
mylife poor you re the dog yesterday and the explosion poo's, in the bath is just nasty, was E in there? I too never want to do the pregnant new baby thing, its just too hard, i dont want to wish it away woods BUT.......it will be nice when F is 3 months plus and a bit more settled and in a routine. Re breast feeding, i am in awe of you all who are still doing it, wow, i feel such a sado only managing two weeks! D wont even accept help with a yogurt now, i can not imagine still feeding him!

You're quiet dh - all ok?

Yes vik, E was in the bath. He wasn't impressed

mlic oh no, poor E what did he say when it happened?
vik whats wrong with eggy bread? I love eggy bread! I just tried a babybell with L as he wont eat any cheese so thought he may try one of those he liked it then pushed it into my mouth!
Just dug out the flower bed in front garden and it was full of cat mess, 12 houses on close, 3 of them have cats, we are the only house with a flower bed on front garden so we are the public cat toilet!

Toddlers are enough to drive me barmy For the fourth night in a row my 3.3yo has refused his tea. 'No, I want to wake up hungry mam'

It's enough to drive me to drink.

Congrats chul!

I never want to be pregnant again either, actually I could do the pregnancy, I really couldn't stand another year of getting up at nights. So it's the first year I never ever want to do again.

We are all good here, A had her speech therapy assessment and was considered borderline for whether she needs help but they are giving it to her so we have 6 sessions with our very nice speech therapist, then she will reassess her. I'm not at all worried about her speech - it has got so much clearer in the last 6 months - but I will take the help if offered!

G is fine, well, quite whingy as always but very funny at other times and she and A are playing together a lot now and fighting sometimes.

Eggy bread is great. Especially with Marmite on. Dh insists on calling it "French toast" but then he is a southerner

mlisc yes all fine here sorry been v busy recently!

I didn't want to steal chul's thunder but as I've known all you lovely ladies such a long time I'll now announce that I'M PREGNANT!!!!!!

5 weeks due in nov :)

Congrats dh :) hope you avoid morning sickness and all the other horrors!

I never want to have a cs ever, ever, ever, ever again. I think I could just about handle being pg at a push, ...still ask me again in a year's time. I also hate bfing, I've been working so hard on the latch and getting it right and my nipples are already burning/sore 2 days in. Last night I got about 2 hours sleep, so I'm going to get my head down now while mum's holding B. I might have rushed leaving hospital, fainted in the bathroom this morning after getting out of the shower but thankfully DH suspected I would so caught me

Right, no more whinging, I'll post when I'm nice