July 2010: Their speech is improving but it's sleep we're still losing

[DesperateHousewife21]

Welcome back everyone!

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I'm so angry. E didn't eat his lunch. Again.
I warned him if he didn't eat it that was it, he gets nothing else until tea time. But of course for the last half an hour he has done my HEAD in because he's starving

He has begged (and I mean literally begged, crying) for porridge so it's cooking now

Memph, I was thinking more like somewhere between 2 and 2 and a half

L didn't eat her tea last night, snacked on some of DH's chips ( I cooked him quiche as requested and he stopped off for sausage and chips) but didn't have anything else then was crying that her tummy hurt at 11.45. I could hear it rumbling but I'd offered her everything under the sun for tea I also was fuming.

S doesn't eat meals but will snack and snack and snack and snack all day. I made sure he had a decent amount of breakfast this morning and 40 mins later he's in the food cupboard rootling around for snacks. Food, sleep and toddlers are a law unto themselves.

D is a major snacker too, he's much happier snacking all day than big meals.
I make sure he has NO food whatsoever after 5pm til we have dinner at 6pm so he usually has a decent amount because apparently going a whole hour without food means he's famished

Speaking of food, I'm preparing risotto (red pesto, sun dried tomato and basil risotto topped with caramalised onions) for tea and I'm soooo hungry. I predict another night of binge eating. And whilst I've done Shred, Active and Wii Fit today (cumulative time one hour) it is no excuse for eating well through the day and then it all going to shit on an evening. And I want wine too

I have such food ishoos. I've been looking at the paul mckenna thread with interest...

J has hardly eaten a thing for days - today he;s had a couple of bites of banana, half a biscuit, about three baked beans, two blueberries and a mouthful of potato. He's not been well - bad cough, clingy, bit lethargic. I am a bit dubious because he was fine at nursery on Mon and Tue mornings and then only wanted to snuggle in front of cbeebies all afternoon! Hopefully he;ll be on the mend tomorrow.

Oh yes and I had him weighed and measured (measured for the first time ever!) at the hospital today - we were there for an appointment with a paediatrician about his eczema/warts etc and it seems to be standard practice. He's only put on 200g since October (though they weighed him naked today and clothed last time) and is now under the 75th centile for weight (11.75kg), and actually only about 25th centile for height (82cm). What happened to my 91st centile baby! Maybe he'll shoot up shortly.

Y'know what cake was saying about them eating what they need? L wanted peas, sweetcorn and sweets for her tea...I'm not convinced any of that's a 'need'. I disctraction-fed S baby food tonight after he turned his nose up at my pasta. Was too grumpy to make him bloody weetabix again so whizzed his tea up with milk til it was puree, shoved him in front off cbeebies and fed him like he was 6 months old. L wouldn't be fed from very early on whereas he's such a lazy boy. I'd put my foot down but then he doesn't sleep ... not that he's brilliant even with a full stomach.

mlisc I have food ishoos too, have real trouble saying no and love eating. I'm the same re being really well-behaved during the day and then cocking it all up at night.

dh I need to be stricter with S, from about 4 onwards he whines constantly so I tend to give him stuff to keep him quiet so I don't explode. Only krackerbread usually but it'll still fill him up a bit I suppose...

Mine do that too chul. That's why they have their tea between 4.30 and 5pm because they just get past hungry otherwise.

Apparently all E has 'needed' today was a bowl of weetabix this morning, a bowl of porridge at 4pm, beakers of milk and a few grapes. However I was cleaning his teeth tonight and he got upset saying his mouth was hurting. And he never says that, so I do believe he must be in some amount of pain to admit it. So I've given him some paracetamol for bed, hopefully he'll get a better night's rest for it.

morning,
not a bad night last night really, I was up at 1.30 and 4.30 and up for the day at 6.30 with F. D, unsuprisingly, is asleep due to being awake again for ages in the night. DH and i agreed to leave him from now on, not go in at all, he doesnt need anything and it doesnt seem to help when we 'settle' him so whats the point. Last night he chatted, winged, banged and eventually cried and we didnt go in, he mut have ss in the end but god knows what time. The HV was lovely, i cried about 6 times, i find it really difficult to talk about it, just feels like we have failed in a fundemental way, anyhow theres a community nurse who specialises in sleep issues who will come and see us and i have to get a poo sample to be analized, we also spoke about cranial ostiopathy, she said all who have done it have had good results. I was exhausted when she went, HAD to have tea and biccies!!
one handed typing so very tedious!
chu i really hope you got some sleep, its so very hard, how are they both? thats my concern re eating that it will make an already shit night worse! what a stupid woman, the tit indeed, like ur 'putting up' with it! wtf, do people think that we enjoy no sleep and our kids being like zombies, id like to know what she would do in your shoes, thats made me mad, can you tell??
mylife ur tales of E make me dispair! poor boy but poor you as well, does sound like teeth though, how was he last night? And give him his ball back man!!haha.
dh its not mean to wake him if it means you and he get a longer sleep.
woods how was J's night? Hope it doesnt manifest into anything.
F has a cold, poor tinsy lite nose is crusty. I slept back in our bed last night for the first whole night in 7 weeks, and had a much better sleep when actually in bed cos i didnt have to listen to F scrummaging around, felt bad though considering he has a cold.

It seems like D is slipping back into his old ways though, bed at half 7 and up at 9, then 10 then our bed.

He managed to turn right around so his feet were where his head should have been so I got repeatedly kicked in the face.

It's crazy how people just expect a child of this age to sleep reliably through the night but just looking at this thread goes to show it hardly ever happens.

Hooray! Both dc slept through, I was only up for a wee at 1am then awake with pain at 4.45 but that's so much better than it has been for weeks! I felt so good this morning that I've tidied my hole of a kitchen so I can find the utility sink and the table. Gotta keep at it though, I've let it slide so much recently.

mlisc I used to feed them at 4.30pm but I found that I'd be getting S up from his nap, giving him lunch, tidying up, sorting them out something to do and then back in cooking. The afternoons just felt like one loooooong cooking/feeding session. They eat around 5.30 now but that really is too late for them.

viks D not sleeping is no reflection on your parenting at all, any more than my two being fussy eaters is any reflection of mine. You'll find as F gets older that you do exactly the same things with him and get different results cos they're all different. The lady yesterday has one child so she's got no one to compare him to, she just assumes I'm inept. Thinking about it, everyone who's told me I'm doing it wrong has only had one child Their time will come

dh once they've got habits it's hard to kick them too. S and L were pratting around til near 9pm and S was still up at the arse-crack of dawn when you'd think he'd be shattered...grr!

Ah see mine eat before W's nap. They have breakfast at 7.30, lunch at 12 (nap 1pm ish) and tea 4.30/5pm. They usually prat about so if I give them it at 4.30 they finish around 5pm.

Glad you feel better for a bit of sleep chul :)

W slept through until 6.45am however E was up at 5am, but dh saw to him and got him back off.

FWIW Vik I think leaving D is the right thing to do. When they know you'll go in eventually they just keep going until they 'win'. Different if you know they're ill or something but under normal circumstance I leave mine. Hence the 'no rush to put him in a bed' thing I was saying yesterday

Another shit night here. Bed at 8 and up at 10 wide awake with not a sign if sleep in her until about 12 o clock. Dp ended up bringing her into thr spare bed to go asleep cos she was just lying there wide awake in the cot when we were sitting beside her and screaming crying when we left the room. I'm so fed up of it and constantly feeling anxious. Seems everyone is in the same boat in some form though.
Hurrah for your 2 sleeping through chul!! How's the dishwasher going for you?
Vik hope you get somewhere with the sleep person.
Mlic how you feeling today? Yeah work is goin pretty good in general! Been quiet this week with only a few in but tomorrow and sat are busy. Haven't really minded this week though with feeling shit.

Yea, see S is ready for his nap at 12 which makes lunch either before at 11.30 which isn't really doable unless we're back from wherever really early, or afterwards which sometimes is as late at 3pm which makes tea at 4.30 ridiculous...if S ever starts sleeping beyond 6am he might be happier having a later nap.

Sorry your night was so crap fairy dishwasher's lovely although DH hates emptying it (and loading it for some reason) so I have to nag gently remind him to do it every now and then, just cos I don't want to do it every time!

I think my dh thinks there's a dishwasher fairy who loads and unloads our

I have been exercising daily for 6 days and eating as I would normally have. My BMI has gone up How is that fair?

I had plans for us to play out the back today but it started raining whilst we were out. Walking. Serves me right for thinking there was a hint of spring in the air this morning!

W hasn't napped yet. Can't decide whether to just leave him and cope with the whinginess later or to make him sleep now.

Oh god tsc thats bloody draining on you. Have you tried no dairy? I'm sure it just feels at the minute like its never going to get better. Granny sounds bloody nuts.

Dp is actually ok at doing the dishwasher most of the time. It does my head in when something is left in the counter above the dishwasher though which happens regular!
I've been looking for cakes banana bread recipe but can't find it. I'm on the phone too so if anyone could point me in the right direction i'd be really grateful!

I make a lovely banana choc chip cake if you want I can write it out for you?

Oh tsc :( I feel for you. It's really shit feeling shit all the time. And it's not a selfish thing to say. I'm sorry I can't impart any words of wisdom. What happened to your ideas about cutting out dairy? Surely anything's got to be worth a try?

Here's cake's recipe:

CHOC CHIP BANANA BREAD

3 Bananas, mashed
1/4 Cup Vegetable Oil
1/2 Cup Brown Sugar
1/4 Cup Granulated Sugar (I often just use one type of sugar depending what I have in)
1 1/2 teaspoons Baking Powder
1 teaspoon Bicarb
1 Cup Plain Flour
1/2 Cup Wholemeal Plain Flour
1/4 teaspoon Salt
100g Dark Chocolate Chips (I use ones www.atb-bargains.co.uk/silver-spoon-dark-chocolate-chips-brand-silver-spoon-100g-3373-p.asp

Preheat the oven to 350ºF/177c
Mash the bananas well and combine them with the oil and the sugars
Add the choc chips, salt, baking powder and baking soda to combine.
Stir in each of the flours, mixing until just moistened.
Bake in a slightly greased and flour dusted loaf pan for 35-40 minutes or until a cake tester comes out clean.
Let rest for a few minutes before removing from the pan to cool on a wire rack.

I've got that recipe thread saved in my watch list but there's not much on it!

I just made a swiss roll with raspberry jam and whipped cream for dh I wasn't thinking about my tummy at all and it is delish. I ate the trimmed edges but can't have any more as I'm going out for tea tonight so don't want to spoil myself.

Thanks a mil chul I was looking for the recipe thread but couldn't find it for some reason!
Mlic thanks for the offer i'll see how I get on with this one first before I put you to the trouble. Enjoy your meal out!

tsc that is shit, how does granny treat fongs and dp? is it different to Clara?
mlic have a good night out!

My head is up my arse, L is already in bed as he hasnt napped for mum and has run around all day, I have been so busy all day, but was up all night with bad lower tummy pain and hip pain! Spoke to dads wife today, really worried about my dad, I really want to visit him he is so ill but feel bad taking L as he is into everything, he is getting weak, hasnt eaten in over a week can hardly drink and is vomiting, he is below 9 stone, a man on the ward who was in his 40s had a heart attack last week and died as his body couldnt cope, im so scared this is going to happen to dad, sorry for me me me, crying my eyes out and no one in rl to talk to so had to gt it off of my chest!

Ack memphis that's awful. Could you go to see him with your dh or mum so they can take L out after a couple of mins so they can see each other but then you get some more time with your dad? Is this a knock-on from the chemo? Keep posting if you need to, you know full well none of us mind what's posted about on here. Is your dp away again?

he is home now but they live in a small bungalow and he gets so excited when there, if and when he is in hospital L isnt allowed on ward. dh is away, and mum and sis live in opposite direction to them, my step mum is run ragged but he doesnt want any help from anyone eventhough he needs it and she doesnt want to cry in front of him as it makes him feel worse, he is having chemo right now, he has been getting ill in between sessions before this so dread to think how it will be in 10 days, one more treatment in 3 weeks then it will all be over, dh really struggles to talk on the phone, he just never knows what to say, he always call on way to job in morning and on way back for literally about 2 mins so enought to ask about L thencalls for a real chat after he has eaten but by then he is falling asleep so never actually get to talk about stuff other than is L, house, dog ok?