October 2011 - our happy, chatty babies!

[GroovyRach]

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forgot to say that i have had 2 periods,despite bfing. and dp and i have dtd twice......very cautiously! tried to have coil fitted again on my 2nd one, but new area, new docs and its a whole rigmorole that will only happen by next period. basically this doctors doesnt fit them, so at 37years old ive got to go to the family planning clinic and get a ticket with all the 16year olds suffering from sti's and wait my turn. and thats just to register! then i have to go back to see the nurse and then back for the 3rd time to actually have it fitted! it will be less hassle to just get pregnant again.

I think MrsH you might need to tell MIL to bugger off not worry so much. I remember my MIL saying to DH "ooh watch your heart though" when he said he was doing a 10k. Get a grip MIL!!

Thats it though Tally if something happens in between it doesn?t take long for time to whizz by does it? I think mc are actually not unusual at all now, everyone we know who is trying for a baby has had one. I do just feel very grateful for P so if we have another great but otherwise I am still very happy.

P has only woken at midnight, 2.30am and 5am, considering the last 2.5 weeks with her cold this is a miracle. Long pay it improve :)

Long "may" it improve :)

Aargh
Hurricane bawbag is back with a vengeance!
I've now lost ds playhouse, 2 fence panels, a cpl of roof tiles and some of my gutter :-(

Taken me a while to catch up with the hustle and bustle of Christmas and New Year. Wrote a big post a few days ago but managed to delete it!

Sorry to hear about so many poorly mums and babies over Christmas. Chesire hope you?ve recovered from your food poisoning.
bilblio how awful about the burglary
Edward great to hear that your DH?s quit smoking.

Re: night feeds, M is down to one night feed now. I feed him and pout to bed at around 6.30/7 and then he?ll wake any time between 2 and 4 and then he?ll normally sleep til 7 (I say normally, but we?re a bit out of sync with New year now!).

I?ve just packed away M?s 50-56 clothes, in 62-68 now. He?s growing so quickly!

Welcome strawberry!

Snap on lots of tat, though not for M, for me and DH! Although M has a million rattles, he has some really nice Christmas presents. DH and I OTOH have received so much crap, I?m going to tell my family not to buy us presents next year now that we have M. My mother seems to have panicked that she didn?t have anything for me and bought me a Xmas CD (that?ll get a lot of use this month), a gardening journal (I?m not the world?s most dedicated gardener, and even if I was I?m not sure I?d keep a journal about it!) and I know for a fact that my brother did his Christmas shopping on Christmas eve?he did manage to get me something quite cool, but gave DH a really weird mug and some vegetable seeds (wtf!). I don?t mean to seem ungrateful?what the hell, I am ungrateful!
Leaving the country doesn?t solve the problem of tat Cheshire. Just means that you can?t take things back because you?re not in the country!
My sister did get us an awesome wall sign with his name on it for his room though, and my auntie an uncle won a wooden hand crafted rocking elephant in a raffle and have given it to us for when M is a bit older. Wouldn?t fit in the car though so we?ll have to bring it back next time.

groovy why would anyone give you a T-shirt that said ?little sister? when she isn?t? people are weird?
Good luck with the job application penguin.
Haven?t started my periods yet (am BFing). Must go to my GP to discuss contraception- I hate condoms! Groovy We DTD at 10 and a half weeks. Was also feeling a bit nervous after stitches ? lube was very necessary (sorry TMI!) but was fine.

bilblio have also just moved to size 3 nappies. Could probably have done a few weeks ago but I?m a scrooge and wanted to use up the rest of the size 2 that we had!

I would like to have a relatively small gap for the next one. DH is 40 this year and I don?t think he wants to be too far into his 40s for number 2. Took us quite a while to conceive though and we had a mc just before I got pregnant with M, so don?t want to wait too long. But am only 31 so reckon we have time to wait a bit.

Okay, so now I?ve caught up with the thread (sorry for my huge post!) I need to vent about my New Year and my birthday! Watch this space!

Grrr!!!!

We had ILs round for NYE (PIL/BIL/SIL and their two boys ? 7 and 4). First when we rang to PIL to tell them what time BIL and SIL were coming over and that they could come over any time in the next hour, they said they were just finishing eating?..DH TOLD them that we were making dinner for everyone!!!! The BIL and SIL roll up late ? they?d been to a birthday party in the afternoon, so while DH and I were starving, they?d been picking at party food all afternoon ? SIL hardly ate anything, the DN1 ate a few chunks of cheese and DN2 (who rules the roost) refused all of our food, only wanted a few crisps but wouldn?t eat any of the ones that we had so MIL fetched a packet from hers?which he then didn?t eat. DH and I had put up beds for the boys to sleep in (so we could then wake them at 11.45 for the fireworks). BIL and SIL let the boys stay downstairs so we needn?t have bothered.

Apart from MIL on the rose, nobody drank anything. SIL sat there with a face like a wet weekend and a glass of ribena for the whole evening ? didn?t even drink her champagne at midnight. DH moans about my family who are greedy and will scoff and guzzle anything in sight (and that includes me!), but his family are so BORING ad really fussy when it comes to eating! After I put M to bed I came down and they?d put the bloody TV on ? how social! If we?d been with my family we?d have been playing games, or y?know, actually TALKING to each other. My SIL was huddled up in a blanket complaining she was cold so we turned the heating up then proceeded to tell me that poor M ?must be? so cold in our house during the day. Grrrrrrr!

Okay, New year?s eve rant over?time for birthday rant! Yesterday was my birthday and I always hate it ? everyone?s skint, over-fed and hungover from New Year, there?s nothing good in the shops as it?s just the dregs of the sales, the weather is awful. But yesterday took the biscuit. I knew that DH hadn?t got me anything but he didn?t even get me fricking card. We popped into town in the afternoon but it was so busy we ended up heading home after a coffee. I headed out for a quick run and when I got back DH had put his bloody playstation3 on. He KNOWS that I hate it, I made a comment about him turning it off, but he got stroppy, didn?t take the hint and kept on playing on it for the next hour and a half, then had a paddy when I had a go at him and told him to turn it off. Eventually he worked out that, yes he should have got me a card. While I was bathing M he said he needed a walk to clear his head and came back with a card and a birthday cake.

DH seemed genuinely flummoxed that I should be upset. Sometimes men are useless

Sorry for the long non-baby rant. I feel better now!

Aw Engels that's crap maybe ur DH will make up for it on valentines day

Ur SIL sounds like me haha I don't ever touch alcohol I hate the taste and I'm currently in my (new build) house with heating up full conserved while wearing trousers a long sleeve top and a thick cardi/jacket, while DH and DS seem really comfortable in short sleeves.

I'm not holding my breath for Valentine's Day Edward but he did post my card through the letterbox for me to find (after a few hints, "Engels, I think we've had some post!") and bring in the cake with candles on. He does feel bad, but he's also not himself at the moment. he has his assessment on Thursday after being referred by our GP for his depression. makes me feel guilty that I got upset as it then made him upset, but sometimes suipporting him and dealing with hsi moods is hard work for me as well.

My sister doesn't drink either (and I'm not drinking at the moment with BF apart from the occasional glass of vino). With SIL it was more the fact that she was a miserbale cow the whole evening. We just don't click, which is a shame as being over here in Holland I really miss my own family, especially my mum and my two sisters.

I know that DH don't like our house really warm, but she could have just asked us to turn up the heating up. Okay, now I really do sound like I'm BU. Think I have a case of the January blues (and I've had enough of the ILs for now!). I think next NY we should just celebrate with the three of us....families drive me nuts!

Terrible typo's! - supporting, not suipporting, his, not hsi, miserable, not miserbale, DH and I don't, not DH don't.

(and I'm an English teacher )

Oh engels.that sounds awful!

Cyrus has been sleeping through for about 3/4 weeks now (not that I'm showing off ;) )

We haven't started a routine yet, but he's going in the cot tonight, so we're starting now. I used to give him a bottle before bed but my boobs are exploding so its just exclusively breast now. We take him up with us at 10/11, dim lights, put lullaby music on, feed, swaddle, lights off and he'll go till 7/8. He's started sleeping 7-9 downstairs so I suppose bedtime will be bath and lullabies before then, then dream feed at 10. No real daytime routine, he refuses to nap for long periods.

Hi ladies

Huge apologies for the me post

Ds has been admitted to hospital (yesterday) with a bronchial infection but they can't get his oxygen levels to regulate so he's hooked up to an oxygen mask and taking steroids to try and help him - last night was my first night away from the girls and I wasn't at all prepared for it ds is petrified of hospitals and drs so it's really traumatic. He's been so brave but we were hoping to go home today but is likely to be Thursday at the earliest!! I can't leave ds - I won't, but my babies are just 15 weeks old and my supply is going to pot expressing only I'm feel really torn and I bloody hate hospitals!!!

Can your nanny bring them in for some feeds and get a pump off the maternity ward?

Hi sassy - do pleased for linda40 would she mind you sharing weights and names?

Engel - what a frustrating new year! Agree next year you shouldnt bother making the effort if they won't reciprocate!

groovy at routine - I'm still very much demand led for everything although their night time sleeping is better now!

Sorry to fly in moan and leave again - I'll catch up again as soon as ds is discharged. Xx

I've got an electric pump in the room but at the moment ive been waiting til I'm full then expressing two big bottles (about three times a day) but I've noticed today very little milk being available between those times so think I'll have to express as I feed (every 3-4 hours) xx

They can only come on in visiting hours 3-5 so they're doing that today but the evening visiting hours are past bedtimes x I'm really hoping ds will have a good night and can be discharged tomorrow (fingers crossed!)

you could meet her in reception etc. and/or feed at 3 and then at 5. I think expressing less than number of feeds is OK for one/two days but longer you'll need to express more, alternatively you cluster feed/feed more frequently them throughout evenings/nights if you go home then.. Even if supply takes a dip and he should be out at the end of week, it can be retrieved (in which case routine will most likely be out anyway).

I'm sorry my initial post was short, was trying to get DS to sleep. What a worrying situations all round and you must feel so torn :(. I shall keep my fingers that DS will be out tomorrow for you.

Bb3, I used to have to express at the same time as feeding, its the only way to keep up. Expressing after the flow has stopped for 5 minutes on each.side helps aswell.

So sorry to hear about your ds, poor little lad, have you taken in lots of toys for him? What a nightmare situation for you.

Am currently trying to tidy the house as I have the VICAR coming tomorrow, how disgustingly middle class am I....

BB3 sorry to hear about your DS hope he's feeling better soon.
Re routine we kind of have a bedtime one that we started this week, bath,bottle,bed around 10pm which is late I know but fits with Will's own pattern.
Been trying to contact his consultant today because we think it might be the antibiotics he's been on since birth that are making him lethargic/difficult to feed. We missed a dose a few days ago ( bad bad parents) and the next day he was like a different baby! Feel bad about having to put him back on it until we can get him checked over by the consultant and terrible that we never realised that he wasn't 'himself'

BB3 So sorry to hear about your DS. I hope he's better soon.

Feeling a bit ashamed of my rant now . Makes you realise how petty it is to get so wound up about stupid things. I promise I'll behave better ladies.

And I forgot to say, Happy New Year .

Bb3 I hope DS is better and the girls are ok without you, and that your supply is ok.

engels sorry your new year and birthday weren't great. Hope DH's depression improves in 2012, what treatment is he getting?
edward yay for DH not smoking.
cheshire so glad you got a better night, we had a better one last night for first time since before Christmas I think E has been really unsettled by all the people and moving.

He is in his own room now and we're trying to get a bedtime routine but the rest of the day is baby led at the moment. May try to structure it more now I have some time.

Part of the prob is that he hasn't had any treatment yet pebble. He didn't want to be on medication as the last time things were bad (about 10 years ago, before we met) he took medication and not only did he feel that it "numbed' his emotions but he also found it difficult to come off (and he decided he didn't want to be going through that when M was born). He also said he didn;t want to talk to anyone, as he tried that last time and it didn't help (but I think it really would help him). He's agreed to get assessed for medication (over here, your GP refers you to a mental health unit rather than prescribing medication for depression themselves). Appointment's on Thursday.

Today M has managed to have an exploding nappy, pee all over himself (I was changing him and I didn't even see him do it!), pee on me, throw up on DH. On what seems like my millionth load of washing this week, the house is a mess, I haven't done a thing all day, but none of that seems to matter when M gives me a beaming smile and tries to laugh (he's still trying at this stage!).

Thank God for mumsnet to help keep me sane

Oh Engel I know that feeling!

Can anyone.give some advice for comforters? Cyrus hates dummies, isn't fussed by blankets,.he just wants to suck at the breast as a dummy for comfort and to help him fall asleep, which isn't helpful when I have to leave him with dp when I go out! He just screams till he eventually falls asleep or I get back and can put him on.

comforters take a while, you have to play the long game with them.

DP can only get DS to sleep in the sling. Well he can without, but normally involves an hour of crying before sleep.

To those with more kids, how do you stop yourself comparing. I know I shouldn't but I just keep thinking well DD was rolling by now (even though I know she was early in all mobilty milestone and DS is a lot chunkier than she was)

Scheh, we use a mobile, not so much a comforter, so no use outside the house, but works sometimes to help L get to sleep.

We're home and I'm so glad to be chilling out in my own living room ! Families are fabulous...in moderation!

BB3 - sounds like you are having a tough time. I hope your wee man gets better very quickly.

Engels - it's hard going when your DH isn't well, keep venting to us! My DH has a long term illness and, as much as I worry about him and understand that it's not his fault that he's very tired and has a rubbish memory, I still feel cross with him and sorry for myself when he's napping during the day and I'm shattered or doesn't remember important things. And then of course I feel so guilty for feeling cross! So, do come here and moan and we won't judge!

Edward - the wind damage has been terrible! My ILs neighbour's roof came off and tumbled over our car! Only scratches thank goodness.

edward so glad your dh has seen the light. was thinking about the situation the other day, but couldnt remember who had posted it. x

bb3 so sorry to hear about ds being in hospital. that in itself is a nightmare, through in twins still being breast fed and it must be so stressful. jacob had to go to hospital in an ambulance when he was really young and they kept us in for one night. (know its not quite the same as a longer stay) but they let me keep isobel with me cos i said i was still breast feeding.
ive not asked linda but im sure she wouldnt mind. he was 8lb 4oz, born 4 days early and they are calling him riadh, prounounced ree ad. her husband is tunisian- hence the unusual name.

i dont really compare mine as such penguin as in the way you said, she was doing this and that. but i do say things like oh i think shes going to be the clever one, or hes going to be the sporty one, if they do something earlier than the other one does.

i always feel that i dont give very much advise on this thread, considering i have 4 dc's. but the reason i hold back is because i am quite tough love and im not sure people really like that. for example with regards to scher and the crying until he can be put back on the breast- if i thought they'd had enough and they were using my boob for comfort, i wouldnt put them on. i can tell the 2 different types of sucks that babies have for sucking and feeding and if i feel eva sucking for comfort, i will put my finger in to break the seal. its not good for my nipples and i dont want her to get use to it either.

you dont have to agree, each to their own. its your child and your way. there are a few of us tough love mummies on my sept 10 thread and there are a few more comforting (for want of a better word) mummies . and its our individual preference, but i can say without exception that us tough mummies have the easier babies. they sleep through and arent fussy eaters etc.
so if i dont respond, its probably cos i have some really hard stance on what to do and dont want you all to think im a cow!

Sassy if ever you have a tough love view on any of my posts please let me know I'm all for anything that gives me an unfussy easier baby!