Sept 10 - Now they're all one, where has the year gone!!!!!

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Sorry, I've jumped in with the new thread! Its been running through my head for the last week!

if you want to pick up pace cinnamon , running a longer distance wont help anyway. you have to run harder during the running phrases. you should be running at 85% of your maximum heart rate. obviously there is a formula for determining your max hr, but you prob dont have a hr monitor anyway. so the best way to do it is by using the rpe scale. rate of perceived exertion. 0 is sat on a couch, 5 is warm up pace ie, getting slightly warm and sweaty and 8 is what i would call 85% of your max hr- that is- you could answer someones questions in one word answers, but you wouldnt be able to have a full conversation or do sentences. the idea is that you stay just inside the aerobic threshold (your muscles have oxygen) and you dont go into anaerobic ( no oxygen in the muscles)
100/200 metre runners run in anaerobic, but you can only do it for about 60/90 secs. thats why people who peg it too early in a race run out of stream at the end. you have to go back to an aerobic pace otherwise you will just collapse cos the muscles need oxygen.
hope that makes sense?! i just learnt to have a feel about whether this is a pace i could keep going at, or whether i would have to stop in a few secs as it was to much.

Sorry to hear about the lost pregnancies JP I can understand how this one feels different for you. I was the same with DD1 after a miscariage, whilst pregnant with her we passed the first ones due date which was a sad monent for me but a happy one as I was pregnant and dd1 obviously survived. In fact all my pregnancies have passed over the due date which I always think about.

Anyway good luck and Mary will love having a little bro or sis to annoy play with

JParkson I didn't feel the same with Ollys pregnancy either. I was too busy looking after ds1 to even think about the pregnancy and especially after what you went through its understandable! Whats your due date? and yours Comixminx

Olly is just so fab right now. Since he was poorly, he's changed. In a good way. I think he maybe had an underlying infection for a while and the antibiotics have got rid of it for good. He's so happy and cheeky. He's litterally eating us out of house and home. The words are just pouring out of him, there are at least 3 or 4 new ones every day! Todays are animal, breakfast and giraffe!

I'm waiting for my friend to come round with a takeaway! I'm starving

Grace is a complete chatterbox, picks up god knows how many new words a day and is speaking in 4 or 5 word sentances. We have proper conversations and she will talk the ears off anyone who will listen. She loves "helping" mummy with EVERYTHING I do and throws a massive tantrum if I try to stop her. She is very loving but only on her own terms and she is fiercely independant and strong willed! She is so strong in so many ways but she's such a mummy's girl and if she's hurt or upset will only let me comfort her. Her apetite is amazing but she will not eat veg! She is the most amazing little person and I can't imagine I'd ever love anyone as much as I love her!

Grace is a complete chatterbox, picks up god knows how many new words a day and is speaking in 4 or 5 word sentances. We have proper conversations and she will talk the ears off anyone who will listen. She loves "helping" mummy with EVERYTHING I do and throws a massive tantrum if I try to stop her. She is very loving but only on her own terms and she is fiercely independant and strong willed! She is so strong in so many ways but she's such a mummy's girl and if she's hurt or upset will only let me comfort her. Her apetite is amazing but she will not eat veg! She is the most amazing little person and I can't imagine I'd ever love anyone as much as I love her!

So excited today! Luke was pointing and saying 'that' as he always does when he wants something I said you want your cars he said no, so I said show mummmy what that is and he said aydoor (dinosaur)!! I asked him if he wanted dinosaurs and he said yes, so excited to have had a mini conversation with him that didn't require that, there or just nods or shakes of heads! I'm so worried all the time that I will have the same struggle as I did with ds1's speech :(

Newmum my friends dd was like that. it was funny cos she was like a talking baby! It made her seem to grow up quicker too!

Cinnamon try not to worry, what will be will be. How is ds1 doing with his SALT??

Just catching up on obem and have a question. What makes them choose between ventouse and forceps?? This one who's head is facing up is just like I was with ds1 and they've gone to get forceps. Ds1 was delivered by ventouse, forceps were never mentioned. I never queried it at the time but i've not come across anyone else who's had a ventouse delivery, its always forceps!

He's doing really well thanks lumpylumps, still needs work but he's much easier to understand he can say f, s, c/k and is starting to say g now too. Still can't manage j, sh, st and others I can't think now. He said sweets today and I nearly cried! He's come so far but still has a way to go and I can't help but feel guilty. I thought it depended how far down the birth canal they are. Ventouse must do less damage but doesn't hold onto the head as well I assume. My friend had a ventouse delivery and her baby had a little egg head . There was talk of it with Luke but will stirrups I managed to push him out without help. I haven't seen this weeks obem yet.

Thanks for the advice sassy34264, I have no idea what my heart rate is. I try to push myself so I'm working hard but then I feel like I might stop at the end and don't want to do that. I would like I do the 5k the plan is supposed to get you to in 30 mins but otherwise I don't have a definite plan other than to keep going 3-4times a week. It does make me feel better. Still losing weight but it's slowly (I feel), lost 17kg since 10th November still got 10Kg to lose to have normal bmi which seems a lot to go. People are noticing now but I've only gone down 1 dress size.

you shouldnt really lose more than 2lbs a week after the first few weeks anyway, otherwise you are really losing muscle and water- which is why people put weight back on and more after they start eating properly again- because alot of the fat is still there and their muscle, that burns more cals, the more muscle you have isnt. and if you just starve yourself by eating even less cals, your body will just go into starvation mode or self preservation and use up less cals by slower itself down.
this is why diets dont work in the long term. im more of an advocate of eating the right amount cals (1800-2000) but burning some of it off with exercise. it takes longer but it lasts longer too.

Are we any closer to a date for the meet up?

I struggle with weight loss. I have lost 3lbs since christmas but stayed the same for 3 weeks now. I have joined weight watchers, 3 months for free, so I am tracking my intake and keeping an eye on the little things which put weight on. Eating a spoonful of nutella or a couple of biscuits because I am bored are my downfalls. Me and dp are going to start exercising more. Will be walking and swimming for me and hopefully will try running soon. I'm not hopeful as I have never been able to run but I will take the couch to 5k slow and see how it goes.

Lucy is turning into a daredevil climber, I have just brought her down off the coffee table, she was trying to do a headstand!

lumpy, I was wondering that too, they never seem to use ventouse. I had it with Arlo, again forceps never mentioned. Arlo's were because his heart rate was dropping, needed to speed up the delivery, but he was facing the right way. I thought maybe forceps were used if they needed turning and ventouse just to speed delivery, but I've always wondered.

Whoops lost the thread!

I don't think so Debs75, beaditAli was going to look at possible venues that was the last anyone posted I think :)

Finally getting round to doing an update for Arlo:

Has loads of words, favourites are 'more' and 'no'! He is excellent at copying new ones and I have much amusement in getting him to say ridiculously complicated words like 'discombobulate'! Just got his second pair of shoes, size 4.5F. He's a cheeky little monkey who likes hiding round corners and sneaking up behind people. He's suddenly become very attached to his toy rabbit 'babbit'. He is the fussiest eater imaginable - current diet involves fishfingers, swedish meatballs, potato waffles, yoghurt, fruit and not much else. Never thought I'd feed my son exclusively on frozen breaded products - all those hours making fresh purees, wasted! - but am ridiculously delighted if he eats a turkey dinosaur . A vegetable has not passed his lips for at least 3 months! He loves soft play, and can go round and down the slide non-stop for hours. I, on the other hand, cannot. He loves it at the childminder's these days. Loves wearing his 'booooots' and stomping in puddles. And adores Peppa Pig, Thomas the Tank Engine and Zingzillas.

Hi all
Have been off the radar lately. life running away with me. Phoebe has a cold again!!! its never ending! im so tired its not funny. my sister had a baby yesterday -beautiful boy - no name yet. I drove her to the hospital and stayed with her til it was time for her to head to the labour ward. so funny seeing the other side of things. I have had 3 hours sleep a night now for 3 nights an broken nights before that. its so hard going to work - i would also love to just keep Phoebe at home for a few days and let her fully recover. I dont have anyone that could take her so have to soldier on my poor pet.
Weight loss wise I still have 12lbs to go and just cant nail it. I agree with you Sassy bout eating porperly adn burning it off I just cant find the time or energy for exercising. I have a small appetite anyway but a sweet tooth. H is always telling me that I dont eat enough to diet just need to spread out sweet stuff and work out. ...someday eh?

No reply from the venue I had in mind and have had minus zero time to physically go there to investigate though will try again by phone/email. Would most of us be driving as that would expand venue geographies a little or are trains the option?
What is the oldest you've known a LO learn to walk?

My ds1 was 16 months but hv said they don't start to worry until 18 months beaditAli, why do you ask?

So sorry you're still not finding enough time for you MammyG :(

Just asking on behalf of a friend really. Her DS1 is 15 months and is an awesome bum shuffler but cannot stand up at all or attempt to walk.... His legs just go floppy when you stand him up...... She is starting to worry but I'm sure he's totally fine and try telling her there's no hurry. Just wondered when is considered slow/old iykwim

Ds1 would pull himself up but just couldn't walk, if she's worried she should ask it might put her mind at rest :)

It's usually 18m they start looking into it. If he is struggling to stand then I would take him to the drs and see what they say. They might think he is doing fine opr they might have to keep an eye on him. Much better IMO to get things checked out then to wait longer in the hope they will sort themselves out.

Lucy has just manahed to wake herself up and is now finally up having breakfast. She is such a lazy baby and I am now a tired mummy as dc3 had me up at 6.30 with her whinging that it was morning because it was light outside

Not sure if we are still doing our weigh ins but I had to post as I have lost 3lbs this week
I'm doing the weighwatchers online plan and it seems to be working.

whew, what a week or 3?!

Sorry I haven't been on sooner, I forgot (again) and then Mary has had a bug or something this past week - she threw up all over me in church on Sunday, and spent most of Monday on my lap grizzling. She's been recuperating (sp?) slowly this week, but still hasn't got much of an appetite.

LO is due on 6th August, and I've felt it move within the past 10 days. Have felt really low though, and am really struggling this time emotionally. I can't pinpoint it. Every time I try to rationalise how I'm feeling/triggers, it fits, but then doesn't. Will I feel better if I lose the weight I've piled on over the past 4 weeks (check, do I feel better? A little, but still not there ) will I feel better if I feel LO move? (check, do I feel better? Again, a little, but I'm not ecstatic about it). Now I'm thinking will I feel better once I see LO at the next scan? (10 days time).

What are the chances I've got PND (p being pre) ?

Ugh, I don't need this! I've just read up an article on the symptoms and none of them fit, except from not feeling 'connected' to Pickle. Shit, now I'm in tears. I don't want to be depressed.

I battled with it after DS, and I really don't want to go through it again. Oh fuck. Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck

Please please please let it not be that.

Sorry for the waffle, I just feel I can't post this on my usual group as again, I don't feel like I'm 'one of the gang' (tell me to bog off if you want!)

Well done Debs75!! 3lb in a week is more than I have lost in any of the weeks since I started. I have now lost 40lb since 10th November but although it sounds a lot it feels like it's been slow going.

Sorry you are feeling like that JParkson, I have no experience of pnd but could it be that you have been affected by your miscarriage and it's fear of losing this one that is stopping you feeling connected? I hope that's not too personal a question, dh says I can be blunt at times! I hope that you have someone in rl you can talk to that may help you to feel better about it all but I can't offer anymore advice I'm afraid :(

Blunt away! I prefer it, as I'm the same! It is possible, and I keep finding myself 'blaming' the mc/eps. It probably sounds odd, but I don't want to think of either the losses or this pg in a negative light, but I can't help linking the two feelings. Oh dear. That doesn't really make sense! I know what/how I feel about the two - they're linked, but I just can't put it into words!

The only other person I know who had a m/c has severe bipolar, and has a terrible habit of turning the conversation round to suit her/gives me the nth degree on an opposite subject to whichever we're talking about/makes me feel inadequate about life in general. (she does this all the time, regardless of me being pg or not!)

We also have a horrible habit of not agreeing on things and she takes it terribly personally to the point of not talking to or acknowledging me for months! (whereas I've forgotten about it by the end of the day, certainly by the end of the week!)

I've voiced a couple of things with DH and he's happy that I've told him my fears/concerns, and is trying to be supportive but he's so happy about Pickle, and gushes about it all, and I find myself thinking 30 seconds/1 minute later that I should have also said something +ve but haven't iyswim.

I felt much better after waffling on here though, and after I read an article where RL ladies have posted how they're feeling, I'm sat here thinking, get a grip! You don't feel like that! (they're bad enough to not want to get up/go out/woe is me and they're describing crying over getting up/going out, not eating properly, not sleeping, I could go on and on. Been there, done that, and I don't feel like that - I just feel a bit detached.)

My doula is away at the moment, but once she's back, if I'm still feeling like this, I'll have a chat with her and see what she suggests. Maybe a nice preggers massage... mmmmm

Thanks Cinnamon It is great to lose some after 3 weeks of staying the same, plus it wasn't really that hard to say no to extra biscuits, snacks and 'naughty' things. I did slip today and had a bun and some shortbread. My next goal is to stop overfilling my plate, or buy a smaller one.

JP you are able to talk about it with us so talk away. You have been through a lot in the last year and Mary is still so young. I can imagine that you are tired and struggling with all the lifting of Mary. Lucy and dd2 have the same age gap you will be having and pregnancy was hard enough without having a toddler to lug about.

I wouldn't talk to your friend until you feel better yourself. You need someone who wants to listen to you, not turn things to their advantage. Pop to the MW or GP and tell them how you are feeling, they may be able to help.