Just mumming (viroids 1)

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So we don't scare the viroids on the antenatal thread with horror stories of no sleep, chomped boobs and endless laundry or make them envious with tales of cuteness....

You cool to room temp, or whatever temp they like it at, under running water, in an ice bath or by shoving it in the freezer for a few minutes (only if you have a drawer which is kept empty for that purpose as hot milk will melt the food and depending on the brand of bottle you're using).

If you make in advance and keep in the fridge either train them to like fridge cold milk or warm the bottle in hot water.

It's easy to miss. HCPs are shockingly ill informed and the instructions on the tins of formula are shit. They really should say it's not a sterile product. And if an HCP has given you incorrect preparation advice then complain, complain, complain in writing, referring to the NHS infant feeding bottle preparation guidelines. They will be targeted for retraining.

Hey all, good overview Frak, if you need anymore info BB there's a pretty good guide on the Department of health website.
Now I'm FF I pretty much follow your methods Frak, I only keep them made up for about 2 hours at room temperature, Evan is a bit older though, I only used to do it for an hour before he started weaning. I only keep the overnight ones in the fridge. The important bit really is to get the powder into water at 70+ degrees. No-one told me this the first time around either BB so don't worry.
I'd also say that if you can get them to take milk at room temperature rather than warm it makes life easier.

All getting really interesting here now as Evan has worked out he can roll around to get things, he doesn't stay where I left him now . You spend ages encouraging them to move/ walk and talk then when they get to DDs age (almost 3) you wish they'd sit still and shut up for 5 minutes

Its DD's birthday in a few weeks and she wants a pirate cake I'm just debating whether I'd be capable of making it or whether I'd have to buy one, may have to practice, which won't be good for the diet!

I'm slightly as I'm pretty sure I used to make DS's bottle with cold tap water then warm it up in the microwave ! Mind you he didn't start formula full time until he was nearly 9 months and was on cows milk a little early at 11 months (he reacted badly going from NZ to UK formula and HV was okay with it), so it wasn't much of an issue.

DD is awake and clucking in her basket. She likes to feed on and off all evening the wee dear. Hopefully I'll be asleep by mid night after several more nappy changes and much milk leaked everywhere. Aren't newborns so terribly glamorous!

I would not have a clue where to start if I needed to FF so thanks for the guidelines on that. How terrible that the HCPs are ill informed of both feeding options it seams as mine keeps giving me BF advise that totally contradicts all current guidelines!

Seamed to have stopped DDs nighttime evening grizzle sessions but getting a bit of a routine and putting her to bed earlier, she is now doing 2x5 hour stints which is working wonders for the bags under my eyes!

Next sale starts on Saturday so going to try get some baby bargains as she is growing so fast now in some 3-6 stuff and only 6 weeks

T-I-R-E-D! Babies sleep for 3 to 3-5 hours between feeds during the day. But during the night it's 2.5 hours!! That's about 1.5 hours sleep between feeds! What's that all about?!

Cleaner here now, so pretending to do important stuff on the laptop while actually MNing, although would rather be in bed.

Also I'm now worrying that I'm overfeeding Meredith. By weight she's often taking a feed that would be a 4-5 hour volume, but is coming back for more in 2.5 hours. Worrying extra because my nephew was born at 50 percentile weight but by 3 months was 99 percentile ie very fat! I am feeding on demand. Trying not to worry as the poor kid is only 3 weeks old and probably has some making up to do for the fact that she's not even supposed to be born yet! But then I've read about FF babies being obese. Trying not to push my dieting experiences onto a 3 weeks old baby!

How did/do you guys spilt the chores with DH? I guess this is only applicable to the FF folks. Babies are feeding approx 10pm, 1am, 4am and 7 am during the night. Both DH and I do the 10pm and 1am feed taking a baby each. But he has to get up at 6am for work, so I do the 4am and 7am (and rest of the day) feeds myself. But it's really hard to sit there at 4am when I'm totally bolloxed with him laid next to me snoring. 4am seems to be the lowest of the low points. Last night I lost it a little and shouted at him to stop snoring . Sleeping beside me is bad enough, but snoring is like sticking 2 fingers up!! Plus DH has dodgey fingers/hands which means he struggles with the nappies and poppers, so I'm doing all of the changing too. I feel like I'm doing all the work, whereas he continues at work and as normal with the occasional baby flavoured chore thrown in. (Maybe I am super woman after all!! )

Then at 4am I start to miss my former life! I don't think there is a single aspect of my life that is unchanged, from my body, work life and social standing (lack of) and interesting conversation material (again, lack of). Where does perspective go to hide at 4 in the morning?! I certainly couldn't find any!!

Don't worry, not PND. I've been depressed before in my life and know what it's like. This is just bog standard "feck, where has my life gone" stuff!

Please excuse self absorbed post!!

Glad to see you fuzzy

Sigh, nearly time for Heir Hunters

BB the 4amish feeds are ALWAYS the hardest. I remember with DS sitting struggling to get him to open his mouth enough to latch, through the gush of milk making everything slippery and even harder to do, wishing that the dawn would hurry up and arrive so that at least I knew the rest of the world was awake too. It did eventually get better and I did eventually stop talking about babies and nothing but babies and he did eventually start to sleep through the night. And just wait til those little lovies of yours SMILE at you! And laugh and and and...

I still fecking hate just before dawn feeds. I know that it's just before DH wakes so he has an early start, but I've always done all night feeds. He used to try and stay awake with me but I got more pissed off with him waking, dropping off and then complaining of tiredness than I did just getting up. MN is a lifesaver, as is another forum which doesn't have a 3am downtime. I tend not to post, just read at that time....

It does sort of get better. You readjust to the new 'mummy' you and eventually you start making plans to go back to work which for me is in equal parts terrifying and a huge relief.

Is there any way you can adapt what the twins are wearing so DH copes better, BB? I wouldn't worry about overfeeding at this stage. She may, however, be a very sucky baby and not actually want the food, just the teat. I notice when M does this his latch slips and he can't possibly be getting milk but he just wants to suck. He, however, won't take a silicone boob substitute dummy - he wants mummy dummy.

Despite BFing and therefore knowing that I do all the feeds etc and despite the fact he works and works very hard (he got called at 11pm last night, went into the office at 1am and returned at 6am - today is 14 July so a day off and he's still sleeping at nearly 2pm) I still get resentful that I do all the feeding and laundry, most of the changing, most of the amusing and carrying and he sits and plays on his xoom whilst pretending to provide moral support. I have no idea how he's going to do the handover to the nanny - they have 2 weeks together while I'm back at work. He can't read any of M's signals, has no idea about his routine and M is getting dependant on slinging and boob for sleep which DH doesn't really approve of deep down so he won't do it and then he ends up with a screamy baby who is apparently hungry

There we are. Ranting makes everything better.

Umm so I know lots of people have sex dreams while pregnant, but is it normal to have them so soon after? I almost did the dirty on DH last night and I'm feeling all a bit today (but what an arse!). I blame the trashy mag I was given last week, but it's making my daytime TV watching a bit .. odd. .

And where the feck is the courier with my new pushchair?!!! I want to play with my new toy .

LOL coaaf So, come on, who was it?!

In other TMI news, I've got a solid poo that just won't come out without causing serious damage Not sure if prunes work once the poo has been formed?!

Despite serious bed head, I'm feeling a bit more awake today And I've not had a meltdown at DH for about 36 hrs which is progress!

The dummy trick is working sometimes, but they don't seem to have enough suck to keep them in for long.

Mm well I feel almost completely asexual so good on you fir having any kind of libido coaaf.

BB you need to hypnopoop (like hypnobirthing but for hard stubborn poo ). Alternatively prunes will help, as will lactulose and (ahem) suppositories. I've been in France too long..

BB there is a new ad on TV for senacot (sp?) I think, saying it both soften and loosens. Otherwise dried apricots are also good.

Well even with DH now back home racey dreams about Aussie soap stars , are all I'm going to be indulging in for a while courtesy of my stiched up fanjo (2nd degree tear)

Well, I've not yet learned how to leave the house with B&M unless I'm a) on foot and where I want to go is within walking distance or b) in the car, but don't want to get out and do anything! So I can't get to a chemist.

I'm locked in the house with the choice of bananas, prunes and a summer fruits (was frozen) jelly I've made.

I've even just sat in 6 inches of warm bath water because the pain was so bad. Really the CS was less painful!!

LOL for "hypnopoop"

Don't eat the bananas BB. That will bung you up even more!

BB it's call compactation and I had it after DD, it's not nice!
I had stuff from the pharmacy call Movicol, I think it's 2 packs for normal circumstances but I had 8 in a jug of water and drink in 3 hours.
I had the district nurse in the end and had an enema and was the best feeling ever!!
Don't leave it to long tho as I had an infection and it takes a while to get your bowel active again.

My DH does 12 hour shifts days and nights so doesn't do anything regularly but when he's here he does clean, bum changes and settles when crying but also still has got to go out on his 1 weekend off in 3!

COAFF I think it's a hormone thing! I dreamt about it and jumped on DH as soon as I could move enough after my c-section

Can't believe how many clothes DD has grown out of, so much cute stuff she only wore once but at least I got to have fun on the next online sale!

Going to see my family in Gloucester tomorrow so packing a monster changing bag and hoping she's on best behaviour

Guess what? There is no-one else I'd share this information with! Maybe we've all got too close?!

Right, I'm armed with lactulose and glycerin suppositories. Although I've not been able to get the suppository to stay in because it's too blocked down there This is not pleasant

Ok in the interest of sharing;

Erm no nice way to say it but lube and glove up and make a space for it and put a folded up piece of kitchen roll or something similar as it will give you something to clench on to keep then in as long as possible.

Good luck!

BB you ok now?! Not still on the toilet are you?

Sorry, busy few days..

In poop news, gylcerol suppository worked on the nasty blockage on Saturday. Then lactulose helped things along on Monday. Not quite back to normal. But don't feel like I'm giving birth any more

Having babies is busy in a boring kind of way isn't it

A friend who works with children is popping around this afternoon with pain and salt dough so that we can do hand and foot prints which will be fun.

M is waking every 3 hours no matter how much feed she has! So sleep is still pretty much taken in 2 hour chunks. And who the feck manages to "sleep when the babies sleep"?! I'm not managing it that's for certain. Most of the time I think I'm doing fine, but then I went out today with my top on inside out!!

How is everyone else doing?
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I'm STILL on bed because Alba has decided she won't sleep in her basket today and every time I move her she wants to feed back to sleep. I need to buy food and register her and that's never going to happen at this rate! (21 days to register a new born at the regisrty office is insane! For DS we had 3 months and did it by post)

Oh the bliss of a bra that fits at last! (even if it does confirm I'm a bit of a fatty fat with Massive boobs at the minute, but then DD is only 4 weeks old).

Who could have thought it could be so hard to get a good bra!

How is everyone doing?
I think real accumulated tiredness has built up now as I'm shattered and I just can't shake it. Today DD would not settle and I dont know who cried more in the end

Cowboy, hope you have a better day today.

I have came for some wisdom. What were your first labour signs? I'm not even 38 weeks but have been getting period type aches in my lower stomach and the occasional upset stomach. Do you think this is normal?

I had

I had on/off contractions until they became regular quite painful contractions. No other real signs!

Hope everyone else is okay and not too wiped out :) We're mid house move at the moment. One of the most stressful things in life along with having a baby and marriage apparently. My last 2 years has gone international move - wedding - intercontinental move - get pregnant - second wedding celebration - baby - move.... No wonder I'm permanently on edge

I might go and checked at the gp. My first thought was a stomach bug, but then read it can be your body preparing .

frak having moved recently and due to move again in a couple of months, I can completely sympathise. All the big changes seem to fall together don't they?