June '05 Mummies 5 - the one with lots of smiles, and lots of cuddles.

[katzguk]

one brand new shiney thread, title thanks to eym.

EYM - mine's a snacker too and until recently wouldn't take more than 4oz at a time. - usually less. A few days ago I gave him some baby rice and he suddenly began to take more formula - we've progressed to cheesy potato with broccoli which seems to be going down quite well. Hope you get up to see your sis and niece at the weekend, I know when we were in scbu it's very easy to cut yourself off from everyone resulting in being very isolated. That's what happened to us - in retrospect it would've been better perhaps to have people close by to share the experience with. Hope the cysticfibrosis test is negative. Georgia is a lovely name x

SFX - that sleep pattern sounds very familiar to me! He's been sleeping so much better in the day over the past few days though (again, since introducing the solids), taking 1.5 hour to 2 hour naps instead of the annoying 45 min ones. In fact today I was worried he's sleeping too much!!

Off to see the HV in a bit. I have PND, that's partly why I've not been posting lately.

Hi Uwila!

Georgia is such a lovely name - I always think of 'Georgia on my mind' - a beautiful song.....'Georgia, Georgia, the whole day through...just an old sweet song keeps Georgia on my mind'

Uwila - don't come round here with your 'things have gotten quiet', where the hell have you been?? Glad to hear things are going well with the new nanny and the solids and the potty.

Hi Uwila! Nice to "see" you.Was thinking about you this week as I sat outside the american embassy in London.

Welshie - Glad to hear the night didn't goo too bad.
Ours again was not horrible, but I was this close to just say -sod it! I'm too tired, van I just put him in bed a sleep?!

Ntt- Sorry to hear you have PND. The hardest bit though is to get help, if you get it you'll get through it!

RHM - How is it going with the bedtime? Hope is better!

So, am definetely purchasing the next car seat this week. If anyone interested, which rates Britax duo isofix as the best (if you have isofix in your car), and M&P Pro-tec as the best for seat belt attachment.

May we all have good nights of sleep!

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Oh, Lynny... that is soooooo much for one person to have to deal with. It's amazing you turned normal.... well, sort of.

Very sad about your step dad. It's very hard when miss saying "good bye".

Don't really know what to say, but thinking of you...

Oh, and Welshie, I've been at work earning a living while you sit around doing nothing on maternity leave.... JUST KIDDING.

Bloody Hell it's 6:00. Where has the day gone.

Are there any more Southern meets planned. Would love an excuse to get together and see some southern Junies.

Has anyone else gone back to work yet?

Lynny - I just wanted to say I'm so sorry to hear about your stepdad. Please don't feel responsible. You didn't create the situation, you just did your best to deal with it and you still are doing your best with everything life throws at you. Don't really know what else to say, but I had to post just to say that you shouldn't blame yourself. Hugs

ntt is me - I'm sooo rubbish at pseudonyms

charley, you've started ds on solids? Please do post about this. I was hoping to see my hv this week at baby clinic so she could tell me to throw caution to the wind and do the same, but she wasn't there. Ds has been refluxy as buggery in the last couple of days so off to the GP tomorrow (hoping SHE will tell me to start on baby rice!) So so sorry to hear about the PND. I have been feeling a bit on the cusp of it myself again lately. CAT me if you want to chat.

uwila, we're all busy coping with the sleep deprivation of having kids who don't sleep round the clock like yours Nice to see you again, glad all's going well and new nanny is not another NannyThug. No arguments about eggs I trust.

Lynny, you absolutely are not to blame for what happened to your step-dad. In fact I suspect his good relationship with you was one of the brighter points in his life. Your mother sounds like a destructive nightmare, to be honest, and you are best off well away from her, as he would have been. Take good care xxx

lua - thinking about moving to the Isofix car seat as well, is that the one you're going for?

EYM, Georgia is a fine name, hope sis is doing well, she's lucky to have you to support her. Lots of positive vibes from here for her too xxx

welshie, so pleased things weren't as bad as you feared. When I was awake from 2 a.m. to 6 a.m. I was hoping you were getting some sleep. Feel bloody awful today and ds was 'only' up from 3 a.m. to 4 a.m.

we've had the estate agents round today and it looks like selling our place may be rather tricky Just one more thing to worry about (hence, I suspect, being awake for four hours in the night).

LOL Charley, I knew it!
What the reason for pseudonym, then? Thinking about shaving some new body part and !
Now, seriously... are you OK?! If you need to talk about, unload here under whatever name! We are here for you!

charley - sorry to here about the PND, just to let you know you're not alone i'm baby2

Lynny - Sorry to hear about your stepdad, I cannot even pretend to understand your feelings.

Trib- DH and I had a date schedule today to talk about car seats,it is so complicated!
I am tempted by the isofix, except that I've been reading that the problem with isofix is that when is a good fit is great, but that the"fit" varies with car... So,who knows, maybe better to just go with the belts?! Also we have the unplesant task of deciding which of the two kids we protect more (i.e. which one we put in the middle). I feel so guilty that I almost decide to put both on the sides! Crazy I know, but how do we decide?!
Anyhoo, we can only isofix in the side... so its another drama. Anyway it will have to be decided tonight. I'll update you on my thought if you are interested

Flipping heck Katz, so sorry to hear about you too! You ladies need to SHARE with the group (well, only if you want to, obviously) - I understand it's more tricky when you have RL people likely to read it. I post a lot more about my stuff on here cos fewer people know me in RL, although do occasionally get a shock when one of my mates says "oh so I read on MN you've been having real problems with dh's snoring?" WTF?!

Trib/KVG I do believe starting on solids may have made a difference - he seems to eat quite a bit more, (maybe he's thirstier?) especially during the day, and is sleeping 1 and a half to nearly 2 hours instead of the 30-45 mins he was doing, which means he's in a better mood. When he's having his formula, his tum sounds much less gurgly and he doesn't cry. I've just been to see the hv this evening and mentioned that I've started solids - she doesn't have a problem with it and said a couple of years ago, 16 weeks was the advice. Today was the best he's ever done with the daytime naps - he's managed to settle himself really well at the 45 min rousing thing, so I'm hoping to see a difference on a night soon - not seen one yet though... and tonight dp is doing until the 4am ish feed to give me a break, so I'm not hoping for much tonight.

Trib - Sorry you're a bit down too. Isn't it horrible? thanks for the CAT offer - same applies here - I'm on Messenger too. If were you I'd try a little bit of baby rice - I'm using Organix which tastes ok actually

Lua - I really don't know what you're referring to about the shaving of body parts!
Pseudonym is a pseudonym that I've used to post about some of my darkest fears for ds recently, (the cause of my PND) I didn't want to burden this thread with as t's all been a bit heavy

Katz - I felt for you reading your thread. Well done for admitting it to yourself I've got one of those plastered on happy faces too. My hv tonight said there are some meds around that you can take if you're trying for a baby - so these might be ok whilst bfing too? As soon as I know what they are I'll let you know, (she's going to speak to my gp about it). Please try to take comfort in that to me your PND/blues sound hormonal and so should pass with time - my hv said about 5 months after you've had a period is sometimes a breakthrough. Just keep yourself busy x

evening
dd asleep dh cooking me catching up.

lynny-sorry to hear, by all means grieve but do not blame yourself. you had the right to get your life back. take care.

charley- one day at the time.
re solids, going well hope she takes to veg, i ate plenty during pregnancy hope she has the taste for it.

tonight or more likely over weekend DH and i must do sums and work out when i should go back to work, earliest january. but so wish we could make it a tad later.
i used to be highest earner but his current contract puts him well above me, thing is we never know when it will end, apparently it will run into new year. must contact work and try to work out a solid agrreement for flexible work.

dreading doing that, they are nice and all but been avoiding all work related things from getting into my current life. but i am sure i will go on enjoying work when i go back.

trib - i only mentioned it to DH yesterday! and even then i haven't discussed fully how i'm feeling, i think i'm still hoping its just tireness and that a few days rest at my mums will fix it, however in my heart i know its most liekly more. i think i'm just so used to bottling things up. also other people have real problems, i kinda feel like a fraud, i have two beautiful children and a very supportive DH,my mum would also be very supportive if she knew. i think she might have an idea as she said i was in a strange mood in italy but she put it down to the stress of the conference.

so here i go sharing with you lot:
okay for the past few weeks i've been feeling well simply down, i think tiredness is a factor but when i do get some sleep i still feel weird. i just don't feel like me! i'm going to try and take stock next week but i con't think its going to be the relaxing week i'm hoping for. i really don't want to go and see DH's family but feel i must, also i doubt PND would be seen as a valid excuse anyway. i'm not putting this very well which is also one of the reasons i've kept it inside. if you can't articulate what's wrong then how can other help

Lynny - I can't imagine what you're going through at the moment. I'm so sorry about your stepdad. I really hope you're not feeling guilty - like Trib said, you were have been a really lovely part of his life. I've felt badly guilty for years about my mum and the way her life has turned out - but she's an intelligent adult and responsible for herself. Everyone is ultimately, you know that. Including us - you wouldn't want a favourite younger relation of yours feeling guilty about the direction your life took would you for instance?

charley - i haven't had a period yet, so 5 months after the first ahhhhhhhhhhh

Katz - I meant after your period at about 5 months - my post read differently. You should speak to your hv - they have access to lots of support for this - mine has suggested a group or one to one counseling with someone. Can't go though - no babysitter lol. I've been making myself get out every day to see at least one person, or go shopping and make a point of having bright convo's with shop assistants/whoever, even when I've really not felt like leaving the house - I meet up with my ante-natal class, I've booked myself onto a baby massage course. It's pretty hard work because normally I'm fairly self-sufficient, but I find it really breaks up the day and distracts me from obsessing about ds. I'm also developing one or two friendships which is nice.

my HV is pants though! i have a gp friend who i might talk too, shes just getting over depression herself so she might help.

lol about the misunderstanding about periods.

Lynny, you didn't ruin his life, someone who chooses to drink heavily does so of their own free will, not because of any outside forces. You have nothing to reproach yourself for - you've been through so much in your life, but you are still so caring and kind towards everyone else, I am in complete awe of you. Please unload stuff here whenever you want to, it's good to talk to people who aren't intimately involved in RL.

Charleypops and Katz, can't find the right words really but sorry you are both feeling so down. I hope you have people in RL you can talk to, as well as sharing the load here. Sending massive hugs. Wish we could have a Junie mums booze-up somewhere, no kids, no responsibilities where we could all get drunk over a few bottles of wine and put the world to rights.

Uwila, great to see you again.

Trib, how totally frustrating being awake for four hours in the middle of the night. Would you consider sleeping tablets or do you feel you need to be more alert for DH and DS? Not suggesting that you should be on the go 24 hours a day of course, just that sometimes it seems like you don't have any opportunity to switch off from everything.

Thanks for all the breastfeeding info, it's all new to me as I didn't bf DS1 for very long. I think I'm expecting DS2 to constantly feed like he's a newborn rather than space his feeds out like he is doing. Will find something else to worry about now...

Off on holiday on Saturday - we are going away for a week with all of DH's family...parents, sisters (x2), their DHs, their kids (5 in total), plus a couple of DH's cousins and an uncle Should be...interesting!!! Actually it's always more fun than I think it's going to be, DS1 loves spending time with his cousins, and if he's entertained it takes some of the pressure off me and DH. We may even get an evening out together (haven't managed one since DS2 was born).

Hope you all have a good sleep tonight.x