Dec 2008 - Hello 2011 the Year of the Toddler!

[DeidreBarlow]

Totally unispired but hope you all find it...

That's brilliant Deids! Isn't it you that has the bum licker too? glad to hear my ds isn't the only grunter still.....

I'm gonna get Toy Story Box set for the plane....

Oh my god the meltdown she just had because I took car not pushchair to nursery (it's raining). So horrific I burst into tears too. I just don't know what to do. Had to sit in illegally parked car for 25 minutes until she calmed down enough to get her into car seat safely (cue more howls)

What am I doing wrong?

Yeah I have a bum licker and a grunter that can dry his todger...what a pair

I love Toy Story, good for adults and kids!

Oh kiwi x post

Any chance that this episode could just be tiredness? I really wish I knew what would help.

Oh dear Kiwi, this doesn't help I know, but perhaps to know you're not alone, I burst into tears in Tesco over a meltdown by ds well actually it was on the way home in the car. DH gave me a bit of a talking to. Don't take it personally was the theme. I was pregnant at the time.... maybe?
Seriously, it will pass. You must remember me not ever wanting (and still) to attend meet ups without a 6 foot high wall around any potential venue as ds will meltdown totally in a highchair or anything remotely resembling a restraint (this is still the case) I doubt you are doing a thing wrong, you are just experiencing the famous terrible two's and I think some cases are more extreme than others....
DS just had a meltdown becuase he finished his yogurt after dinner and wanted another, however I brought the wrong flavour, and he only wanted the same (which I had run out of) I just ignore him and leave the room.... he gets over it quite fast when I don't react....

Right dh on call yet again, so late home... dinners are done, but baths lay ahead.... singlemotherdom continues.... And we have to talk about, and finalize holiday plans tonight as it's the rsvp date.... he's gonna love that after a long day....

Oh god Kiwi. Poor thing. I just dont know wat to suggest. I presume you told her that you had brought the car so that she was forewarned so to speak. Tis so difficult to know what to say. Much love to you.

Also Spot. Sling him does it help atall. SO that he is near you at all times? Or just get out the house to as many toddler type groups as you can do so that you are not stuck in staring at the walls with a screaming baby and a shouty toddler. Another much love to you.

For those that need DVD recommendations can I suggest, UP or Nemo big faves in our house. Cars, How To Train a Dragon, and Curious George (hate that one) Horton hears a Whoo is a massive fave.

Single mother here too. Am getting a bit fed up of this leaving at 6am and coming home at 9 or 10. GRRrrrrr and its burns night and we are meant o be having our lovely haggis, neeps & tatties. I will have to eat it alone and he can warm his through.

Rubes our children are kindred spirits in the meltdown over being strapped in somewhere and the ability to leg it at quick notice. To get DS2 in his car seat I have to flip him upside down then quickly flip him back while cleverly holding his legs bent. Its a wonder social services do not come knocking.

Spot am trying to think what to suggest to help - will be back later if I can think of anything. Big hug in th meantime though (I think this is frowned on in wider mumsnet). Don't apologise for moaning. That is part of point of us.
Kiwi sympathy on terrible 2 too - dd is dreadful at times. She spent whole weekend taking piss out of dh - he'd explained something that was going to happen to her and said ok? At the end. She shouted "no" and them rambled around going "ok? (pause) NO". I could only get her dressed this morning by addressing her as lola. There should be a head in hands emoticon.

Kiwi - you poor love. I know someone has already suggested just leaving her to it, and I would second that, but it's impossible when you're trying to get her in the car seat. You poor poor lamb. I'm so sorry. I don't know what to suggest really. DD1 is a total geek and responds to threats of straight to bed with no story etc. Naughty step does nothing, just a place she likes to sit!!

And Spot - a friend of mine went through similar thing with her little boy and she said they just had to live with the screams for a few months, but it got better after about 3. But she only had one. I think you're amazing to be coping so far and am glad the HV has suggested seeing the GP.

Deidre - loving that story. DD1 told me she was going to do a poo this evening. I damn well should have put her on the potty, but I've been up since 5.45 and couldn't be bothered. She then wandered up and said "Mappy change", and we walked over to the changing mat holding hands. Was quite lovely. Until I opened her pants and found the mother of all shits.

DD2 is teething and did a poo that went EVERYWHERE this afternoon. I had to change all her clothes. Then she was sick on her babygrow.

Right baths are done and just had last call for milks.... iggle Piggle was on pause so I am currently fast forwarding on x12 so we can get to Iggle Piggle going to bed.

Jam you have your lovely weekend coming up! Yes the runners should get together and we can watch them try to escape, somewhere where they can't!

Beans that dd1 story was hilarious! How's your dad?

Oh dear awful stomach turning stench coming from dd. nappy change then bed for both - well past time no waiting up for daddy tonight, mummy needs a wine now

Spot: you're having such a hard time of it at the moment :(. Could your mum come over for a couple of days and look after the boys while you get some sleep? I second the suggestion of a sling. Please vent to us whenever you feel like it.

Kiwi: I'm not sure I'm in a position to offer advice, given that DS2 screamed blue murder at bedtime and is now sitting on DH's lap watching Dave. Like everything, This Too Shall Pass. Quickly, with any luck.

Vag: I have never been a lean running machine . Even at my skinniest I had wide hips and comedy knockers.

I opened up my haggis all ready to cook and it had gone mouldy! So it's toasted cheesesandwiches instead.

Really appreciate the advice and sympathy (pass the virtual booze please). She's currently going utterly ballistic in her cot and I'm done with the patience and letting her get on with it for a bit. She was ok for a while but of course the minute bedtime reared it's ugly head it all went nuclear again.

Hello everyone,

Kiwi I'm not sure what to suggest. Giving her some choices sounds like a good idea and making sure she has enough naps/sleep. Keep telling yourself it is just a phase.

Sorry for the me post in advance! I was kept in hospital overnight after my monitoring yesterday due to ++ urine and high BP. Blood pressure went down a bit on the ward so they released me today and told me to go back on Thursday. When I got home a different doctor rang, expressed surprise I'd been discharged, and told me to go back tomorrow instead. Gee whizz!

I've had the steroids now so hopefully DC2's lungs are maturing a bit more just in case.

Back tomorrow (hopefully!).

Hi all.
JB how did you get on with the blood tests etc? Hope you're feeling ok. I know it's scary but also good to know you're being looked after. Keep us posted.
Spot so sorry things are so tough. Did you get to the GP yet? I would doubt it would be pyloric stenosis - babies with that tend to look quite distinctively like scrawny old men (!) and the puke is projectile. It's a good sign that he's putting on weight. Are you BF or bottle? Sorry I've lost track. Are you eating and drinking ok? As for you - is your HV aware of your PND with T? Is she keeping an eye on you for it? I say go with your instinct - you've been there and know your signs to look out for, so don't try and battle on on your own if you need support. I agree that trying to get out an about would be good for all 3 of you, though I know that's easier said than done. Take care.
kiwi that sounds really tough. I've just started reading Toddler Taming (again! - I read it with dd1 too) and it's very reassuring about normal toddler behaviour - things which stress us and push us to our limits, but which every toddler does because they don't know any different. It says how toddlers aren't manipulative or unkind, it's just they believe the universe revolves around them! They have no sense, so you cannot reason with them and they long for attention. The author says they demand attention 24 hours a day, and if you give them 24 hours, they'll demand 25! I ended up in tears last week at the garage when I couldn't get P back in her car seat due to her almighty strop and pelvic thrust. I've no idea what the answer is, but please don't feel it's something you are doing or not doing. As my GP said to me yesterday, "you're the best mother she's got"
jb thanks for asking about the appt - it's this Thursday and I'm really nervous. I'll let you know how it goes.
Vag when I've met you I've admired your womanly curves and envied your energy! I'm glad you're happy with your shape - and Effie too.
Rubs when does the cabbage soup begin? Does it have a, ahem, windy effect?
I hope P sleeps better tonight - she had a rubbish night but I'm not sure what was wrong.

oh and happy burns night Jam [bsmile]

x-posted there. jb what a faff. And a worry for you too. Are you feeling ok about it all?

Right kids are well and truly storied and in bed and not a peep from either ds didn't even come out to protest from the gate and slam the door[odd!]

Oh Jolly - hope the hospital stuff calms down. can't all the docs even communicate? (no is the short answer) Hope you are back in no time.

Trace good luck with your appt. Don't be nervouse [easier said than done, granted]
Erm well I have about 10L of cabbage soup in the fridge but I'll no doubt do my modified CSD as I did last time I am just having it for 2 meals a day at the moment and then if I don't have any success with that I will step it up. Forgot it was DH's b'day tomorrow and he wanted curry, so might have to do it properly next week but will still do 2 x meals a week this week plus wine of course
Well I eat LOADS of veggies normally (probably more than most Veggie's!) as I love em, so don't usua;;y have a windy problem too bad. I guess here's more toilet action to some extent, but at the risk of going all "Beans" on you, let's just say I've had some healthy fast bowel movements today
Right dh en route yay!

Effie sorry about the Haggis, what a complete Bugger!

Trace, your so lovely, I was quite jealous of your flat tummy, esp as our no.2 kids where still quite ickle then.

Kiwi, DS2 used to go mental regardless of what sort of transportation was on offer. On one occasion, he was almost impossible to put into his bike seat, was crying all the way to the destination, then, screamed at me when I tried to get him out of his seat and all the way into my friends house was crying "I want bike!". However, recently things have improved because if he climbs into the opposite side of the car, he can then climb into his carseat himself. I also ask him to hold the front door for me while I sort the bike out and i put my stuff in the panier while he then walks up to his seat. I think these little bits of control & pieces of routine, make him feel more calm about what happens in his day. Having said that though, being in pain puts me in a bad mood and sore tooth pain is the worst.

DH is annoying me tonight, I'm a bit menstrual and he just keeps wanting to talk, Im never very communicative when I first get aunt flo in, surely after knowing me 10 years he should know by now.

JB that all sounds a bit yuk, was going to comment on the research thing as I would love to see your work, but your a bit busy now so maybe another time.

Spot, as Trace said very unlikely to be PS, and I def hope it isn't as would require surgery, however, at least if it was you could get it sorted. Anyway, the screaming does sound like it is causing him big discomfort which would be indicative of reflux so surely they need to sort out some meds for him.

Oh forgot to say, hi Urbs and DB your kids are hilarious.

Pubie I read that wrong and thought you said you had had 10l of soup today. To be fair replacing a meal with CS is way better for you than those kellogs diets, where you replace another main meal with a bowl of cereal. CS has way more goodness in it.

Thanks for the flames thing, I'm sure the box will be fine, very good idea. The mail is terrible here and if they break them I will be complaining bitterly, they are a bit horrendous here with postal care.

No probs Vaggie, I'll send you flames anyday oh I meant to say - if you did get the P'pal thing sorted, don't send to my email as it's attached to a US account - I'll FB you our UK one which is DH's, but as I said, if you didn't, don't worry.

I am sorry not to post properly but very much wanted to send out tons of sympathy to Kiwi and Spot. If I can think of any practical advice I will, hopefully more later...xxxxxxxxx

Hello,
Gosh kiwi sounds so difficult. Don't know what to suggest, I will have my fingers crossed that it is teething or tiredness and that it settles down soon. It does sound worse that the average 2yr old tantrums (maybe I just haven't seen any good ones yet!), and like she might be actually be unhappy rather than deliberately pushing boundaries like you say. Which would make sense for the tiredness/teething. Poor thing.

spot bloody hell that sounds very very hard. Will he settle to sleep in car set/pram/sling? Do you have a wrap sling? I have a spare one (close carrier) I could lend you if you want to try it rather than a baby bjorn (I remember you having a bb at the meet up when DC1s were just born!) Oh and the only other thing I thought was if you have a fancy phone, you can get a white noise app for iphone, probably similar for android, and it has loads of different relaxing/white noise sounds! Eg beaches, rain, detuned radio, etc.

rubes thanks for the info on your bowels. Cabbage soup sounds like a winner.

jb bugger on the going back in again. Hope you are ok.

trace good luck with appt.

DD now having formula in the evening. Seems to be helping her settle at least, I am bfing her until about 7-7:30ish, and she is still awake at which point we are giving her a bottle and tonight she guzzled about 150ml and she conked out. Nights have been better and have had some non-2hrly nights, which is nice.

Oh am stressing about DS's eating again. It's so bad. Went to friends house at the weekend and she was clearly shocked at how fussy he is. He just eats no savoury food apart from houmous sandwiches and pesto pasta at the moment. He's had no tea except fruit for 4 days now as I haven't given him pesto pasta (chicken stew, beef roast, lasagne, mushroom pasta, pasta with tomato sauce, quiche all completely rejected in the last week. I don't replace the meal with anything except fruit/yoghurt, so that's a lot of meals skipped). This cannot be normal! Sorry for rant my going on about his eating must be massively dull. But I am just concerned no one gets HOW BAD HE IS! My friend tried all the tricks she tries with her toddler and was shocked that none of them work (bribery, distraction, etc)

Oh we have just booked our summer holiday. We are going to Vancouver, I am a little worried but DH has insisted. Are we mad with 2 tinies and jetlag, etc? WE have friends there and we want to go to whistler as well and do some mountain biking as well, so it should be good. I suppose. I am just nervous about the travelling and lack of sleep!

Hi Summer - you're welcome, I do what I can to inform, but I'm a far cry from Beans and her detail
Don't worry about ds - my ds goes through phases and does similar - usually due to teeth or lack of sleep. My dh's nan said her son didn't eat anything except rice bubbles for about 12 months!
Vancouver will be fine - it's ONE flight!! (I assume you would do that)
I'm contemplating 2 long hauls and then only 4 or 5 days there and a stranger baby sitter in the middle! All in about 3 weeks! Although we shall see..... we are going to chat tonight.
Lady hope you are OK - v quiet.

SL I get it, you feel like no child has ever been as bad as your DS and all those stupid cliches like some peadiatrician somewhere saying "no child in the western world would ever be undernourished" "children will eat what they need", "they won't starve", I can tell you I was sure DS1 was going to be the first child to disprove all those theories. He also went through the homous and pesto phase, but he never ever ate fruit. At some point we just gave up and went with what he wanted to eat. I don't know if it was the right thing to do but everyone was a lot less stressed. Slowly but surely he has improved. He is still a very picky eater and flatly refuses fruit & DS2 by 10 months had a wider food repertoire. But slowly he is adding to his food likes, and one day he tells me he will eat fruit. I wish I could say something that helps because its bloody hard and consumes you but it does get better slowly.