Jan 2009, baby D0Gs and bumps galore.. lets make room for many more...

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here we are. am going to start a bet on who is next to get broody!

Pat, I'm off to bed now, but I definitely think you have to take this one day at a time and not try to digest the worst straight off if you can. I know the consultant is preparing you for the worst, but I think you can only go as far as the next step before you know more. The human body is amazing. Can't believe your DP works so hard. May be a revelation for him. I think as long as he can still feel useful and get recognition for doing things at home, he should be ok.

Am loving hearing about E at school. Soo cute!

Night all.

Oh Pat so sorry to hear that ((hugs)) for you and H. Can I just echo 120 as well I'm afraid I can't give any advice or stories either, but please sound off as much as you need to. That is a devastating thing to be told More ((hugs))

Miss J - Could you put him in a mattress by your bed to begin with and every night move it further away, until eventually he is in his own room? More subtle and gentle? I suppose you could sleep in his room with him for a short while instead? Neither of mine co slept still by this age, so feel free to completely ignore my ideas they may not be best

Pat - really sorry about DH's news today, not nice for him at all, must be devastating. I have no advice or experience to help but keep us updated. Maybe posting in health might help? Sounds like your relationship is improving though, hope so.

MissJ - We put a mattress on the floor in her room first and started off doing the usual lying down with her to get her to sleep, then gradually we started to leave her sooner and sooner so eventually (after many months) we were leaving her awake. By that time the mattress was on top of the bed etc. too. If she woke in the night, one of us would go in and resettle her the same as at teh first bedtime, so at first we spent quite a lot of time with one of us sleeping in with her but that only lasted a few weeks. If you are going to go for it I'd really recommend going for it asap as once you get more pg it will just be a lot of hassle and with the trip to Oz you might find you come back and have to start again anyway perhaps? You saw yourself what DD is still like, it is a long old road to get them out of the co-sleeping habit.

Books - With DD we just said that the dummies were going to another baby because she was a big girl now and another baby needed them. After the first couple of days if she asked for one I claimed not to know what she was talking about and within a week they were forgotten. It was pretty painless. I think worrying about it is the worst part. I don't think my DS has enough language skills yet for me to explain something like that to him, but DD did at around 22/23 months so I'll wait until around then. TBH I don't want him to give them up too early as he may just substitute for thumb sucking if I do it before he is ready to sleep without them.

HKZ - Thanks for the link, will try that if ebay doesn't work out. Watching 3 potentials now, so hopefully should win one of those, and at least there seem to be plenty about.

Haven't much brain to post, but wanted to say Pat, I'm so sorry for the shocking news.

I am sure sure sure that in time, maybe even a fair long time, it will not seem so shocking. But now you must be all totally gobsmacked.
I really feel for him, and you too as his main supporter. (((((hugs))))

Loving the name DOG

Popped in to catch up - then failed dismally once I realised how many posts I'd missed. I did catch on that something was up for Pat and her DH though, so had a quick scan.

Pat, I am so sorry for your DH, he must, quite understandably, be devastated. I will keep everything crossed that the final prognosis is a lot better than the current worst case scenario. As others have said, we are always here to listen and support should you need us.

Not been around all evening as we were back at the hospital for the out of hours GP tonight - for ds2.

He's fine, suspected appendicitis (sp?) that turned out to be a bowel blockage instead.

Dd is still crying out occasionally with her arm. It only seems to be when she puts her weight on it eg leaning on it, steadying herself with it, or clambering onto the sofa - but she really does cry when she does it. The rest of the time she seems ok and is using it normally to hold her cup and bottle and play etc. Am keeping her dosed up with calpol and calprofen, but still think I might take her back to be checked if she's no better tomorrow.

Sorry to post a me-me-me and run and also for the many typos and spelling mistakes I'm sure I must have made. I'm beyond exhausted tonight and am going to crawl off to my bed.

Hopefully I will manage to get through tomorrow without an emergency dash to the local hospital!

Night all x

Leaving taking the dummy away until DD's 3rd birthday made it very painful for her and for me with heartbreak and guilt. Even yesterday she asked me to go to the shop and buy her a new one Awful and it took 6 days for her to settle easily without it at night. If I had my time again I'd do it sooner than age 3.

No way am I stopping DS sucking his thumb though yet, as he literally has it in his mouth permanently almost with his soft toy nearby. Can't face the heart break from him right now. Hoping he'll ease off on his own as he grows up. Almost contradicts above but DS is such a different child to DD and there would be hell to pay if I wouldn't let him suck his thumb.

Off to bed here too.

x-posted with you pat - that's terrible, I know how devastated my DH would be if he was told something similar - fingers crossed that it's not the worst case scenario. Must just put more pressure on your r/ship too - hope you get to make some time for yourself, you really have a lot going on at the moment.

Oh I see, I think I was confused and thought you had changed your name to OHs even though you weren't married? - phew, I saw from fb that you had already named him, and then regretted my comment! It's a really lovely name and fits in perfectly with your other three.

How has Isla taken to him?

Hope you get some sleep!

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Ah,,, its not working. I'm just farting about with symbols. lol. Just ignore me.

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Oh, I think I've found a hobby; hair piece making. The one I wore in the wedding photos I made while DD and DH were asleep and I was in the bathroom at the Motel 6l and made it in there. I went around and there is a demand for them but also not many to be had and certainly not handmade ones... I would make twice as much money in the markets here then on the internet. The kiosk overhead would be worth it. Anyhow, just talk right now.

Good Morning, I'm off to bed. Have a fabulous day all. See you in about 8 hours.

Oh dog, hope it all goes ok. Poor little lamb. I think asking the midwife to check is a great idea.

So glad to hear that all the DC's love their new brother, must be so brilliant for them, hope the feeding settles down soon.

Thanks for the story about your dad too, that does give me some hope and I know that peoples bodies show marvellous recovery even when medical opinion is incredibly pessimistic

Thanks all for words of wisdom, DH had a rough night, couldn't sleep at all really and this morning he told me that he didn't want the health situaton to affect my thoughts on our relationship at the moment. I kind of told him that it really had to take a priority at the moment and we will continue with the counselling but he needs to concentrate on feeling better before he can help me feel better IYSWIM.

Moose- Sorry to hear about DS and DD's troubles and your trips to hospital.

I'll be back after school run with stuff about dummies and sleeping, hope its going ok for those who want to give up and stuff

morning

oh no pat how stressful

hi rray what is your facebook name? u arent on my friends!!

i am buying brackens toddler bed december she has a pillow and a quilt now and loves it

dog - hope joss ok luv the name

hi to anyone i have missed

Pat, am sorry to hear your DH's rubbish news, that's no fun to have to deal with. My friend's DH has an eroding disc which I think has a similar outlook, he is a big, tall man in his late 30s and has had really bad pain in his back for the last 5 or 6 years. He is a teacher and has had to take big chunks off work because of it, literally lying flat out. He had an op this time last year (I can find out exactly what it was if it helps) and it really made a massive difference to the pain he was in. He enjoys 5 aside and has two boys so sport is a big thing for him too. He's not able to run around like he could 10 years ago, but because the pain is reduced it has had a positive knock on effect and he is less tense, more supple and able to do stuff with his lads. But he did have to be very careful after the op and took the whole autumn term off and pretty much lay still and did the physio he was told to, I think he also wears a back support a lot of the time.

Books, thats good to know about the thumbsucking, both DCs are thumb suckers, it doesn't bother me, but it drives DH nuts and they do have a lump on thier thumbs... so a bit of drastic action might be called for soon...thumbguard here we come! I think DD is the same age as your DS (3.5) so I feel inspired by your efforts!

Dog, sorry for your lack of sleep, hope Joss is ok. How is he this morning? Good idea to get the MW to check before a 60 mile trip. All your DCs sound lovely, glad they are enjoying thier new addition.

Moose, poor DS, how is he feeling today? You must be knackered, you've had an eventful week so far.

MissJ Am intrigued about name now too! I have a name for a DD but not a DS.

Tea Camping sounds good, bet the kids will love it and you'll get to drink some wine have a bit of time to relax while they are entertained

Chef Can't believe the photo thing, it's one of the things that really gets my back up when people go ott about feeling uncomfortable seeing naked children and scaremongering about it. Gah! Delete that person off your list! I think there is nothing more beautiful, sweet and innocent than seeing naked baby bottoms running round in the sunshine!

Lie in failed as was motivated to put DS in with DD again last night and get his sleeping back on track...it all went out the window over the summer. Anyway, it didn't go well and he got up at 6a.m.! So am completely bleary eyed after he woke 2 or 3 times in the night wanting milk too...
Do you think I should put him back in the cot in a different room and get him sleeping throug again then tranfer him to DD's room or do it all at once or what Have no idea, DD just always slept through and was fine in a bed

lol HZ. 6am for me is bliss!

I'm not sure my situation is the same HKZ but when I moved in here when DS was 11 months and DD 2 and a quarter or something, after the first few nights of DS being in my room I decided to bite the bullet and put them in together, he did wake a little to begin with but soon got used to it all and DD learnt to sleep through his nonsense quick enough. I cannot remember if they've shared before you went away or not

DS does often wake at 6am or 6.30am at the moment though

Books I wasn't sure how old your DS was, however it wasn't a slight to you that you were helping him give up thumb sucking. I'm not very good sometimes at explaining myself on here I think I was just saying I was too scared to even try right now. Think I'm still scarred after the hideousness of helping DD give up her dummy. Hopefully by the time he is 3 and a half I'll have the emotional strength to do it. Maybe by then when my divorce is over perhaps mentally I'll be feeling more positive and enthusiastic, it is a real struggle sometimes at the moment with the 2 of them.

DOG have I missed the birth story? Or is Mr J working you hard right now with all his feeding Makes me all broody thinking about it. I suspect 2 DCs is my lot now though, unless I suddenly meet someone new. They'd be mad to take me on with 2 DCs at toddler age though

Hello,

Day 3 and i'm still here! Well done me! :-)

Dog Have noticed before how Golden Skinned DD1 is. Beautiful colouring. Esme was a bit jaundice first few days, but as it wasn't in the whites of her eyes, they thought she was just v. olive skinned. It cleared itself up. Don't blame you for asking for a midwife visit, it'll put your mind at rest at least. Love the name, beautiful, love slightly unique names, and like Esme, will be lovely & Easy to learn to spell! :) glad all family seem to be taking to him well.

Pat think the ladies have pretty much expressed it all, sending huge hugs from this camp. Keep faith, and keep positive, Miracles DO happen, My great uncle was told he'd never walk again, and he Ran! ;-)

Chef photo business is SO absurd that its almost comical. Loving the nit picking FB statues, wonder if you will be a friend lighter? Either way, i think you have they squriming in their seats, little Worm!

Tink Got your friends Request, not sure how we became not friends! FB is odd sometimes.

Moose Sorry for your hospitial trips, hope they are both feeling better today!

Sorry the rest of you i've missed!