Trump has said we are on the brink of WW3, aibu to agree with him?

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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/iran-attack-israel-trump-biden-b2622151.html

This. It's politicking.

It'll be regional war at most, not global, and the UK isn't vulnerable. Russia have had nearly three years of us blatantly supplying Ukraine and have done fuck all, and unlike Israel's opponents they do at least have weapons that could get to us.

I'm no Trump fan but I do think he could keep these mad world leaders in check far better than senile Biden and MIA Harris. People do love to froth about him but really he's alot of hot air and his presidency was rather uneventful. Will Trump be tougher on trying to keep Israel in check, which in turn might start to de escalate the situation a bit ? That's what I feel is an unknown. Biden seems to just smile and nod.

Isn't it just!

I think it depends how well Israel is able to defend itself. If it looks like Israel may be over run then it seems likely that America will step in and maybe other Western country’s will also be dragged into it. Israel is far from defenceless though so this probably won’t happen. All out war in the Middle East may happen though.

I have come to the decision I would feel safer about world affairs if Trump gets in. Harris may be more palatable in many ways but I doubt her competency, especially in potential wartime. The idea of her as president in current times makes me uneasy.

I think the UK is like a tinderbox at the moment and, all things around the world considered, we are closer to world war than we've ever been in our lifetime. But I still can't see it coming to that, it would be so globally disastrous. I imagine civil unrest is only going to get worse in many places though, including here.

Yabu it's Trump. If on a Sunday night he said we were on the brink of Monday I would double check just to be sure.

My thoughts exactly.

Yeah, Israel can defend itself pretty well. Even the 7th October massacres, whilst obviously awful for them, didn't last long and they secured their borders after a couple of days. They're also not about to make that mistake again. And that barrage from Iran last night didn't cause them much harm. Any conflict isn't going to take place within their borders.

No, WW3, I don't think so.

I am concerned about Jihadists in the UK in the current situation. The West is culturally and ethnically very diverse, much more so than in 2003 and the conflict in the Middle East will affect people in the UK. Either those from the countries involved or anyone due to a higher terror threat. I also hate the idea of any war anywhere in this day and age. It's extremely uncivilised. As a species humans don't seem to have evolved much.

The link between Iran & Russia is frightening & look what's continuing in Ukraine, it's all very close to home.
Zelinsky would have all of Europe involved if he could. Ukraine could escalate further too & spread.. I do think we are on the brink to be honest.

We in Europe should have invested in a reasonable fighting force, we shouldn't be relying on the US is the point. They're having trouble recruiting and losing support for military funding because they aren't just fighting for their country anymore, some are spending years stationed away from home and then fighting in other countries primarily because they don't have enough military. Sure, not good for us if they do this, I don't think unreasonable from their perspective though.

The UK continuing to actively support Ukraine against Russia is one of the best deterrents we have against further conflict in Europe.

Trump is isolationist but he also supports all the worst leaders in the world such as Orban and Netanyahu with a special place in his heart for dictators which he aspires to be.

Like Netanyahu, Trump needs to be in power to stay out of prison and I believe that he will back Netanyahu unconditionally.

Plus Trump has an aversion to diplomacy. He won't negotiate for a ceasefire as he doesn't care about the Palestinians. He has no empathy and no moral code. He is a very dangerous man.

I've lost count on the number of times WW3 was about to start in the last decade according to social media or some doom merchant or other. I remember everyone thought it would happen when Russia invaded Ukraine.

The simple fact is there's not a single country that wants the outbreak of WW3, so it'll never escalate to that point.

The Middle East is, and always has been a mess. They can't get along for more than two minutes without wanting to kill each other. But no, it won't lead to the outbreak of WW3.

The man's a simplistic drama queen who communicates in sound bites.

Expect the cost of oil to go up, the numbers of refugees to increase and more sadly another generation growing up to think this is normal 😔

How do you define "WW3"?

I think there are multiple conflicts that have the capacity to spread. Russia could retaliate against a NATO country for supporting Ukraine with weapons, Israel increasing the scale of conflict in Middle East, let’s not forget China eyeing up Taiwan which I’m betting will be the next big thing in international conflicts.

I think any of these have the ability to grow. I hope they won’t obviously

Technically there is a war in Europe and the Middle East already with the world supporting each side by proxy with weapons. The issue for Brits is the lack of understanding of the scale of the war in the Ukraine because our landmass is so tiny.
Will we send troops to the Middle East if it escalates? Probably is my assessment. I can't see the West wanting to go head-to-head with Russia though.

Thanks for your comment, I'm on the same hymn sheet as you. I also read yesterday it will affect us indirectly through increased oil & petrol hikes, not ideal during this cost of living crisis.
First world problems I know with so many millions being displaced but we are involved & it will affect us all in some way.
Oil etc is expensive enough as it is & now we are approaching winter...

It's so true.. They have been fighting each other since biblical times!

That is true. If Trump wins he will withdraw support for Ukraine and support Putin to take over Ukraine. An emboldened Putin could then turn his sights on a Nato country which could definitely lead to all out war in Europe.

Go back to the 60s and 70s and 80s, at the height of Soviet power and the Cold war and Israel were at war with pretty much all their neighbours.

The big players like Saudi Arabia & Egypt don't want war, Iraq and Syria are no longer capable, Russia is tied up in Ukraine, that leaves Iran, an isolated country, with limited military hardware, both Israel and the USA will bomb their nuclear facilities if they get nr a nuclear weapon.

For me, its how we applaud Israel for behaving no better than Russia in Ukraine with its indiscriminate attacks that kill 1000s of civilians, defend themselves yes of course but its the way they do it.

I don't think it can be contained because we already have the Russia /Ukraine war in Europe. Things could get entertwined very quickly as they both have common denominators & allies.

You can’t want this though op?

Are you in the U.K. out of interest

Agree. He was one of the very few leaders who managed to keep a good relationship with Putin, something almost unheard of from a US president..
The USA have always had very frosty, volatile relationships with the Russians going right back to the Soviets & the Cold War..