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Trump vs Clinton. Biggest debate in world history 2am tomorrow. Will you be there?

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claig · 26/09/2016 09:13

The entire world's movers and shakers, swindlers and fakers, public money piss-takers will be watching in trepidation at what Trump will do to them. The entire world's great and the good, high and the mighty, shifty and flighty will be supporting Hillary. Will you be with the people supporting Trump?

Have you got the ice cream, the chocolate, the biscuits and the matchsticks to keep the eyelids open ready?

As a warm-up, here is Sky News's 30 minute documentary shown last night

"Trump. Could it really happen?"

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LadyConstanceDeCoverlet · 07/10/2016 21:34

No, claig, if you have to explain a joke, it isn't actually a joke.

And frankly, the fact that you think it appropriate to tell Lweji she has a "sense of humour failure" in the personal circumstances she has explained makes you a deeply unpleasant person.

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claig · 07/10/2016 21:36

'The 79-year-old actor spoke out after he was given an OBE for services to services to art and charity in a ceremony by the Queen in a ceremony at Windsor Castle.'

Establishment?

Trump is a lot more popular than an Establishment luvvie like Blessed.

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claig · 07/10/2016 21:38

'the fact that you think it appropriate to tell Lweji she has a "sense of humour failure" in the personal circumstances she has explained makes you a deeply unpleasant person.'

I am not referring to her personal circumstances, I mean in general and she knows it.

She asked me to explain why it was funny because she doesn't get it and still doesn't.

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WinchesterWoman · 07/10/2016 21:42

It's got to the stage 'they would say that wouldn't they'

LadyConstanceDeCoverlet · 07/10/2016 21:43

You still don't have the grace to withdraw and apologise. That's appalling.

And that is why people say you have no sense of empathy.

WinchesterWoman · 07/10/2016 21:44

And the other problem is that calling trump establishment shows you don't understand what people mean by it

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claig · 07/10/2016 21:46

'And that is why people say you have no sense of empathy.'

Of course I have empathy and to suggest I don't is rude.

Lweij said

"You think he can't get any lower, but then, he can
Donald Trump urges terminally-ill voters to hang on until election

Amazing."

I pointed out that he has been saying that from day one at his rallies and it is not serious, it is a joke.

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LadyConstanceDeCoverlet · 07/10/2016 22:10

You accused Lweji of having no sense of humour. Stop trying to evade that unpleasant fact.

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claig · 07/10/2016 22:16

'You accused Lweji of having no sense of humour.'

Only after Lweij accused me of being as insensitive as Trump, when I tried to explain that he didn't mean it and was joking.

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 07/10/2016 22:18

Her Dad died.

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claig · 07/10/2016 22:21

I am sorry that her dad died.

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claig · 07/10/2016 22:24

Kaija, that is not funny. I just heard about it on Fox. Another bad thing he has said about women.

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claig · 07/10/2016 23:51

Wikileaks seems to have released transcripts from some of Hillary's speeches to Wall Street etc. Bad news, stuff about her dream of a common market, open border type trade system, defending Wall Street etc

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Roussette · 07/10/2016 23:59

There is one word to describe all this.... crass

This apology for a man is not a stand up comedian so stop claig now making him out to be one. This is a candidate for president. There is no excuse for him in that link. Pathetic. And I'm being polite here. Just stop defending the indefinsible.

llewj Flowers

There will be lots of people like you who will find that clip of Trump saying what he said revolting.

Kaija · 08/10/2016 00:32

Oh Claig, just give up.

TheForeignOffice · 08/10/2016 07:20

Lweij Flowers

On the Trump pushy grabbing stuff...it pains me to say it but I'm not sure that/why it would impact his ratings negatively. For the simple fact that he's been revealed - very transparent - a misogynisic vile man through the campaign already. I have no understanding of how any female could vote for him in the knowledge that he despises their gender, but I guess people have that issue lower on their hierarchy of voting needs than I do.

Wikileaks has been tweeting stuff regarding HRC all night. As much as this is new information I do see the potential of impacting her ratings negatively. Not least because a quick scan suggests it will reinforce the perception that she's not very honest...

I am kind of riveted to the third party stats. Simply because I can understand that someone could decide they don't trust HRC sufficiently to vote for her, but that individual, having previously supported HRC, could surely never leap across the abyss to support Trump.

TheForeignOffice · 08/10/2016 07:23

Sadly, pushy should read pussy.

Apparently even my auto-correct function has more decency than Trump Grin

WinchesterWoman · 08/10/2016 07:32

Neither candidate calls out to women. This is going to get so dirty in the next four weeks.

LouisvilleLlama · 08/10/2016 07:41

One of the things that I think of when I hear another thing that trump has done that repulses me is:

will this finally be enough for claig to finally give up on trump?

And it seems that answer is no.

ZuleikaDobson · 08/10/2016 07:46

This is a whole different level in terms of Trump's character. This isn't him just saying some woman is fat, or ugly, or whatever, bad as that was. This is him boasting that he could get married women into bed and talking about grabbing women by the genitals, at a time when his recently married wife was pregnant. The man is an utter sleaze. I'm glad to see so many Republicans disowning him.

Lweji · 08/10/2016 07:50

Thank you, everyone else.
I really don't want to keep it, but I only mentioned my dad in that story because I knew I'd be accused of lack of sense of humour. For me it lacks taste and it's insensitive, but I saw how my mom talked about it.
Thankfully for Trump there won't be many voters going through it, and those are, are probably too concerned about other things.
He actually said "I don't care". He doesn't.
And, yes, it does look like Trump hard core voters are so blinded that they won't see what's in front of him. He could literally shoot someone that he'd still be elected (or have a large vote). Sad

nauticant · 08/10/2016 08:26

I'm not sure that/why it would impact his ratings negatively. For the simple fact that he's been revealed - very transparent - a misogynisic vile man through the campaign already.

I think there's a difference between voting for someone you believe is scum and voting for someone who everyone else knows is scum. In the former case various forms of self-deception can be applied. In the latter case you have to consciously, and perhaps publicly, put on the badge scum supporter. That should be a step too far for many.

WinchesterWoman · 08/10/2016 08:36

Naut this will not, in one sense, help hillary. There will be as poll dip for trump and the Clinton camp will think it's bigger and more real than it is. That scum badge means that shy trumpers just got shyer. Because all the time people are thinking - so much publicity to this? When real security breaches didn't get investigated? When nobody's reporting how she enabled her husband's use? Theforeignoffice said people already know he's a womanhating pig and that's exactly right. It's like, tell me something I don't know.

WinchesterWoman · 08/10/2016 08:36

Use = abuse

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