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Trump vs Clinton. Biggest debate in world history 2am tomorrow. Will you be there?

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claig · 26/09/2016 09:13

The entire world's movers and shakers, swindlers and fakers, public money piss-takers will be watching in trepidation at what Trump will do to them. The entire world's great and the good, high and the mighty, shifty and flighty will be supporting Hillary. Will you be with the people supporting Trump?

Have you got the ice cream, the chocolate, the biscuits and the matchsticks to keep the eyelids open ready?

As a warm-up, here is Sky News's 30 minute documentary shown last night

"Trump. Could it really happen?"

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RufusTheSpartacusReindeer · 28/09/2016 21:11

Come on i would like some more "truths" about clinton

Provable ones mind

claig · 28/09/2016 21:14

'I do appreciate speaker started this'

Yes, speaker started it and I sai I found the laughter (over the lie detector) stomach-churning. I haven't posted shit about it.

'You are great one for posting links left right and centre'

I don't want to google that and post a link to it because I find it distasteful. I said that the video is on youtube, but I don't want to watch it again so am not googling and linking to it.

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claig · 28/09/2016 21:16

'Come on i would like some more "truths" about clinton'

We will all have to wait and see if Trump brings it up. I find some of it distasteful and don't want to link to it.

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RufusTheSpartacusReindeer · 28/09/2016 21:18

I wouldn't believe Trump if he brought up his dinner Hmm

AppleMagic · 28/09/2016 21:26

You won't post a link because her nervous laugh during an interview is a non event and anyone who actually watches it will know that.

Trump won't bring it up because it's clearly a bollocks smear and he knows it'll make him look (even more) stupid to try and make political capital about it. He'll leave it to his online army of trolls instead Hmm.

RufusTheSpartacusReindeer · 28/09/2016 21:29

Agree apple

claig · 28/09/2016 21:32

'Trump won't bring it up '

He won't bring it up because it is not new. It is already out there, people know about it, it's not a secret. You can link to it if you want, but when I heard it years ago, I didn't like it, so I won't do it, but nothing is stopping you.

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WinchesterWoman · 28/09/2016 21:35

The youtube clip is the first google hit on 'clinton laughs lie detector' in case anyone want to see. I haven't looked at it yet.

WinchesterWoman · 28/09/2016 21:39

I'm watching it. Clinton is disgusting. It's truly awful. God she must be cold as ice.

RufusTheSpartacusReindeer · 28/09/2016 21:39

Thankyou winchester

Its three hours long but i have seen the relevant bit

claig · 28/09/2016 21:47

I listened to it. The whole thing is terrible and he wanted "a woman lawyer" and someone asked Hillary if she could do him "a favour" and be the lawyer.

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claig · 28/09/2016 21:54

I also listened to Ann Coulter on the Hannity Show youtube video on it and Ann says the case is much worse than comes across in Hillary's tape. and mentions what happened. It is disgusting.

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speakergirl · 28/09/2016 21:56

Of course its ok to smear Trump with everything. Smear Hillary and the left go crying to mummy. Lets not forget Juanita Broaddrick as well

claig · 28/09/2016 22:02

'Lets not forget Juanita Broaddrick as well'

Roger Stone has said that Juanita Broaddrick and many more women will all be speaking out about what happened to them with Bill Clinton. It is shocking stuff, some of which I had never heard of before. So far Trump had not used it. I am not sure he will.

It makes you wonder if the whole election is fixed if some of these things never come out.

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RufusTheSpartacusReindeer · 28/09/2016 22:04

speaker

Do me a favour...find where i think its ok to smear trump

And find where i am one of the "left"

You won't because i am not either

I happen to find a lot of what claig says interesting and was shocked at what you said and claig had said she had seen

And then i looked for myself

TheBurningBridge · 28/09/2016 22:28

Sorry Claig, I remembered I have a life so I didn't see your response to my 'isn't he a globalist' question.

I know he likes to make anti-globalisation soundbites but I was referring to his real business interests or wouldn't you class the Trump Organisation as a multi-national global enterprise?

claig · 28/09/2016 22:41

'I know he likes to make anti-globalisation soundbites but I was referring to his real business interests or wouldn't you class the Trump Organisation as a multi-national global enterprise?'

Trump is not against business and trade across the planet. He has businesses everywhere. The globalists are delibertely destroying the industrial base of Western countries by shipping the jobs abroad and gutting the industries in the West via their free trade deals which Trump says have ruined America, lost them jobs, seen the average worker not receiev a real terms pay increse for 18 years in order for the global bankers and corporations to profit for cheaper labour in a race to the bottom so that they can control the local workforces in the West by zero-hours contracts and uncontrolled immigration which lower the standard of living of the people. Those are only the tactics of teh globalists, their objectives go beyond that.

Trump has told them that their game is up, that "America is back", that it will now be "America First", that he believes in "Americanism not globalism" and that "We will no longer surrender this country or its people to the false song of globalism".

The metropolitan elites worldwide are in meltdown because this is the end of their world, the end of what they have worked for for over 50 years as they stitched the people up and their wages decreased in real terms and their house prices and university tuition fees rocketed.

They are desperate to stop Trump and you will hear all their servants across the world saying that Trump is "unfit" to be President. They are lecturing the American people and insulting them by discussing whether they would ban Trump from entering the country, but they won't beat the American people.

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VoyageOfDad · 28/09/2016 22:53

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WinchesterWoman · 28/09/2016 22:57

I think he might win. The Hispanic vote can't be lumped together like that. There are plenty of families who entered America through a legal route, worked for their citizenship and exercised patience and due process. It's very easy to imagine they will be equally fed up, if not more fed up, with others who can't be bothered to do the same and who might take advantage.

WinchesterWoman · 28/09/2016 22:57

In fact an LA Times reporter went to a Trump HQ and was shocked at the diversity among its staffers.

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claig · 28/09/2016 23:11

'I think the whole 'hanging chad' and tiny majority Bush won on rang the alarm bell on that one. '

Yes.

'But Trump doesn't have the black vote, Hispanic, women's vote. He doesn't even have all the Republican vote for gawd sake.'

He has got more of the black vote than the media is letting on. Trump offers jobs, which is one of the main reasons the "Stump for Trump Sisters" like him. Trumo says that 58% of African-American youth are unemployed, but the figures are disputable. But Trump will bring jobs back to Michigan, get the factories moving, build the cars in Detroit again, end the stagnation, lash corporate tax to 15% so that Aerican businesses return from abroad, from China etc and start providing jobs for Americans. Trump says that merica has been ripped off and American money built China and it was its politician puppets who did it and sold the people out and signed the free tarde deals like NAFTA which Bill Clinton signed that led to the loss of jobs, "the sucking sound" that Ross Perot, the early billionaire populist warned about in the 1990s.

People need good paying jobs, skilled employment so that communities can thrive and crime can decrease and hope can return. That is why Trump will get more black voters than Romney or McCain got.

I am not sure about the Hispanic vote, but lots of Cubans in Florida do like Trump.

But what Trump really needs is to increase the white vote because a lot of the white voters voted for Obama rather than Romney and many evangelicals stayed away.

An evangelical on TV said that the evangelical vote makes up 27% of the entire vote, more than some other communities combined.

The media is doing the only thing they can to stop Trump, calling him a racist, sexist bully hoping that the college educated white vote will turn away from him.

If Trump can increase the white vote and increase the black vote over what Romney got in the rust belt states, then he stands a good chance of winning.

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claig · 28/09/2016 23:20

'Trump can't really take on the capitalist structure that helped make him stinking rich.'

That is what he has said he will do and that is why the entire Republican Establishment was desperate to stop him and Wall Street and the billionaire donors funded his Republican opponents. They are scared of Trump because he is about to change their world.

All of our political class say "globalisation can't be stopped, it is a fact of life, there is no going back", Chuka Umunna, the Blairites, the Tories, the whole lot of them.

Trump will show the world that that is a lie. Without America helping them, the globalists are finished which is why they all cry in unison "Trump is unfit".

There will still be trade and business and economic growth but America will negotiate deals in its favour and not accept any loss of sovereignty to global bodies etc and of course we will follow in the slipstream as we now have Brexit and will be allowed to protect our own steel industries and nationalise whatever we want to nationalise and make deals that are in our favour too.

It is the end of the gutting and low-skilling of our economy. As Len McCluskey said today, Corbyn is the first person to talk about a real industrial manufacturing strategy for our country. It will all come back when the globalists are stopped in their tracks, and only Trump is tough enough to take them on.

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LadyConstanceDeCoverlet · 29/09/2016 00:05

Clinton did not volunteer to defend a rapist, she was appointed to the task by the judge. The prosecutor in the case confirmed that she was very reluctant to take the case, but had no choice. She did not laugh about it: she laughed when discussing the fact that elements of the case that would ordinarily have supported the prosecution in fact worked in the defence's favour, commenting that the fact that the defendant had passed a lie detector test had destroyed her faith in such tests.

The fact that this claim is still repeated by Trump despite being thoroughly debunked is just one of many illustrations of what a liar he is.

WinchesterWoman · 29/09/2016 00:07

She laughed at this. I made him take a polygraph. And he PASSED! You know that kind of destroyed my faith in polygraphs (guffaw) i.e. she knew he was guilty of child rape and she thought it was funny that he passed a lie detector. But you go ahead and defend her.