Trump vs Clinton. Biggest debate in world history 2am tomorrow. Will you be there?

[claig]

The entire world's movers and shakers, swindlers and fakers, public money piss-takers will be watching in trepidation at what Trump will do to them. The entire world's great and the good, high and the mighty, shifty and flighty will be supporting Hillary. Will you be with the people supporting Trump?

Have you got the ice cream, the chocolate, the biscuits and the matchsticks to keep the eyelids open ready?

As a warm-up, here is Sky News's 30 minute documentary shown last night

"Trump. Could it really happen?"

'At this point, if he hasn't thought issues through, how can anyone trust that he will? '

Because he really only cares about some core issues, the rest he wings his way through.

All he cares about is restoring US sovereignty, ending the power of the globalists, scrapping their free trade deals, slashing the deficit, bringing jobs back to America, ending the wasteful wars, slashing the trade deficits with China and Mexico etc

Everything else is detail he will leave to the bureaucrats and career politicians.

As Trump said about Hillary in the debate "politicians, all talk no action", "just words and soundbites".

When Trump wins, there will be action, the political class will be told what they are supposed to do.

But Trump fans still trust him to do the right thing and get the right advisers

I know you want Trump to win. I've seen you on enough threads where you basically take them over and it becomes a discussion between you and everyone else - somewhat unusual for MN.

Even when Trump fucked up and said some appalling things, you forgave him. You still want him to win - and that's something you don't joke about or see funny.

I struggle to see how people can support such a person and have no issue with him being President of the USA with all that concerns. Someone who says what people want to hear but then changes it if he's said things that don't go down well but then changes it again. That worries me. It worries other people.

Everything else is detail he will leave to the bureaucrats and career politicians

Dealing with Russia, Putin, Syria, geopolitics, the Middle East, ISIS etc. All those little things

Isn't he a globalist? The core issue he seems most concerned with is reducing the Trump tax bill, although how it could go below $0 is beyond me!

Claig? You may have read this already, but do you know about Clinton defending rapists? Does it surprise you that many women would vote Clinton?

'I've seen you on enough threads where you basically take them over and it becomes a discussion between you and everyone else'

Only because lots of posters pile in and ask me questions that I reply too, just as I am replying to you now.

'Even when Trump fucked up and said some appalling things, you forgave him. You still want him to win - and that's something you don't joke about or see funny.'

Yes, I want Trump to win because I think he is better for the whole world than Hillary so even though I said he shouldn't have said that all Muslims would be banned from entering America, I let him off because I knew he didn't mean it and he has subsequently changed his position on that. I want Trump to win just as Cameron and the Remainers wanted to stay in the EU.

'I struggle to see how people can support such a person and have no issue with him being President of the USA with all that concerns'

Because the 40% of voters who support him think he will be better than Hillary. It is as simple as that. If that worries you, then you are free to back Hillary as 40% of the people do.

'Dealing with Russia, Putin, Syria, geopolitics, the Middle East, ISIS etc. All those little things '

No, trump will deal with that. That is the type of stuff he likes. He is bored by the detail of mundane stuff, he likes the big stuff and he intends to get on well with Putin and bring peace to the Middle East, probably even bring peace for Israel and certainly sort out Isis. The only danger of Trump is what he might do to Iran, but I think he will talk tough to get a deal with them. But Hillary will be far worse than Trump over world affairs. if you want peace, vote Trump.

'Isn't he a globalist?'

No, the opposite. His slogan is "Americanism not globalism" which is why Davos and the entire world's elite and their servant class are terrified of him. He is scrapping all their plans and it will happen fast. As he said in his famous foreign policy speech that all the world's metropolitan elite tuned into

"We will no longer surrender America or the American people to the false song of globalism".

Across the world, some of the metropolitan elite fainted, some were carried out on stretchers. This was their worst nightmare.

'Claig? You may have read this already, but do you know about Clinton defending rapists? Does it surprise you that many women would vote Clinton?'

Yes, I know about that. the video where she laughs is on youtube. Stomach churning if you are talking about the client she defended who had raped a young girl. Apart from that you have got all the Bill Clinton stuff which Roger Stone has said will still be coming out and Trump has said he will "hit harder" now, so we will have to see if that coes out.

I am not surprised that women vote for her because this is part of the media propaganda that she is progressive etc and Trump is a racist, sexist bigot. That is all teh Establishment have got to try and stop Trump, that he called Rosie O'Donnell fat and a pig etc, nit the real issues that they want the public to ignore.

'and bring peace to the Middle East'

Trup knows exactly what has been going on in the Middle East and even that may come out over the next 40 days depending if Trump is serious about "hitting hard". Trump intends to sort it all out and end the waste of money, the devastation and death in that region. He said in an interview on Fox that Hillary Clinton is repsonsible for the death of hundreds of thousands of people. Trump won't be doing any of that.

Of course. Wonder what the feminists say about this? Probably quiet no doubt

Your last posts are making him sound like a God with mystical powers. He ain't. He's a misogynistic racist with absolutely no experience whatsoever so it's hardly likely he would be able to do even a fraction of what you talk about.

'Wonder what the feminists say about this?'

Many have probably never heard about it or the any, many other things because the media tries to keep that quiet and focus on the sexist, racist name-calling of Trump instead.

At the end of the day, the media can be used to manipulate the public, it is a sophisticated operation and the corporations who control the media have commercial interests that they care about more than the truth.

Lots of politicians are in powerful people's pockets and so on. That is why we never heard the full story about Jimmy Savile until one year after he had died and the Olympics was out of the way.

Claig don't be sexist. I am a feminist and you shouldn't be dismissive about women as a voting cohort. There's no feminist choice in this election. Vote Trump and you get pro life. Vote Clinton and you get other changes which I won't go on about here but which will disadvantage women very badly.

'it's hardly likely he would be able to do even a fraction of what you talk about.'

He always says "politicians, puppets, all talk no action"

and the 40% of people who vote for him believe he will kick ass and sort things out. As Republican Presidential candidate, Governor Mike Huckabee, said, Trump is going to Washington and he will "break the doors". It will be a total cleanout of the corruption.

Clinto defended rapists - AS PART OF HER JOB AS A DEFENCE LAWYER. She didn't seek them out, she was appointed to them.

Perpetuating easily debunked smears makes you look stupid.

'I am a feminist and you shouldn't be dismissive about women as a voting cohort. '

I am not dismissive. Most Republican women support Trump, the Stump for Trump Sisters support Trump, but the Establishment uses propaganda to put other women off by focusing on the nasty things Trump has said.

The entire US mainstream media is anti Trump and even Fox i only half-half, so lots of women and men don't know the truth about Hillary.

'She didn't seek them out, she was appointed to them.'

I am talking about the video on youtube where she laughs about the lie detector etc

Laughing about the invalidity of a lie detector test is not the same as laughing about rape. FFS.

I didn't say it was, but it is still stomach churning about how he got off.

As far as i can see he pled guilty and the judge "let him off"

She was laughing about how shit lie detectors are

He didn't get off. He was allowed to plead guilty to a slightly lesser offence to avoid putting the victim through a trial at her mother's request . Seriously, this stuff is easy to look up.

'She was laughing about how shit lie detectors are'

Yes, I found it distasteful laughing about that over that particular case, but other people may think it is a normal thing to laugh about.

' Seriously, this stuff is easy to look up.'

I can't remember it all. It was years ago that I learned about it and I can't remember all the details. It is not something I want to revisit, I found it distasteful.

Oh but its fine just to post shit on here and see if people get annoyed with her

You are great one for posting links left right and centre

I do appreciate speaker started this