If someone claimed to be the Son of God today…

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If someone claimed today all the things that Jesus did/said, would you believe them?

Curious about how people would respond in today’s world.

@Garlicwest Not that it matters, but you should really acknowledge that your belief as a mainstream Christian is only one version of the same prophecy.

Other opinions and belief systems are available. That is a fact. No argument here. “ Same” prophecy? I would disagree.

You find a warning sign at the top of a cliff to be threatening. Okay, that’s how you respond, to feel threatened. Can’t help you there, sorry.

My responses on here are just like most people’s : merely idle chatter on a message board. If your response is to see a lecture, and feel the need to criticise, that’s on you. Can’t help you there, sorry.

Again, your choice to say that ‘my’ God is of no relevance to you. Good onya. Rock on. When I am asked about Him, as my idle witherings on a message board seem to threaten you (your word) my advice would be to scroll on by and ignore.

You can disagree all you like, @Thegreatestoftheseislove, the prophecy is that Christ will return. You may prefer to believe yours is the only valid version; I'm sure each of the others would say theirs is. If it deals with the cosmic 'second coming' of the entity known as Jesus Christ, it's the same prophecy.

I agree with @SwedishEdith that it's a little odd to use the Biblical phrase 'passes all understanding' (Philippians 4:7). It's from the modernised King James translation; the word in the Greek text means 'transcendent', which most people would find a better description of deep tranquillity.

When people use prescribed phrases for intensely personal feelings, it often suggests the person's clinging to a concept rather than undergoing the full experience. Your choice of terms is up to you, naturally - I'm just chatting around Edith's observation.

True. I can disagree all I like, as can you and all other participants. Such are messages boards. Like everyone else, you are free to accept or not accept any philosophies you like. You are free to accept or not accept any version of a historical figure named ‘Jesus’ as you like.

If folk want to play psychiatrists or psychoanalyst on message board to critique other people … let ‘em fill their boots. I am happily claiming the ‘not normal’ label some other poster stuck on me. I hate to disappoint anyone, but they are not the first. 😂

As I am shortly off out to walk the dog, I will wish you adieu and happy playing. 😀

all religions were written by humans for humans, edited by humans for humans, unless there are beings like Q from star trek and the being wrote texts, then how can anything written and edited by humans ever be trusted and if its all gods words etc why are humans editing texts and if they were inspired by god, well is that not a sign of someone needing help if hearing voices by todays medical standards ?

As an example : Joan of Arc reported hearing divine voices. While she was canonized as a saint, a contemporary analysis might diagnose her with a dissociative or psychotic disorder.

So to quote stargate it seems one could presume if you follow earths texts then your worshipping false gods ?

Venerable Voices: St. Joan of Arc

You go ahead and proudly claim it (though that's not what I actually said), but there are nearly 30 million Christians in the UK and the vast majority of them don't feel the need to share all their self-congratulatory, sadistic, reprisal-by-proxy daydreams. Unless you're out for a very late dog walk, though, it seems that you're in another timezone. Perhaps your supernatural infinite vengeance fantasies are more common and acceptable where you are, but this is a UK-based board with mostly UK posters, where voicing those dark thoughts and using them against other posters stands out as somewhat extreme.

It is entirely possible, and more psychologically healthy, to be a Christian and not smugly revel in your conviction that when non-believers die and "meet their Maker", THEN they'll see you were right, nyer nyer etc. But you clearly relish the idea that I (and everyone else who isn't in your club) will be infinitely punished for finite "sins", deservedly, by your big powerful friend. It's obvious in the way you discuss it and weaponise it.

And the thing is, that doesn't affect me. It affects you. Thinking that way is corrosive to your humanity. Or your soul, if you like.

You probably can't even see how extreme this is. You've become inured to just how bizarre and aggressive a thing this is to say to someone.

I disagreed with you. I was not polite about it, that's true. I mildly insulted you. And where did you go from there? Not just debate, argument, or insult.

No.

An implicit threat that if I continue to disagree with you, your angry friend will condemn me to torture beyond the limits of human understanding, for all eternity.

Because of a shared cultural understanding, in just a couple of casually-typed words, you are able to use the prospect of neverending agony and suffering as a glib parting jab.

Now, this is all just a cultural story to me, so it doesn't matter. But you? You really, truly believe in God and Hell. You think that this is something that can and will really happen to all the people who disagree with you about religion. You know what a horrendous fate you're referring to, one that cannot possibly be deserved or proportionate. And yet you lightly chuck it around as a cheap trump card.

What's the inside of your head like, that you can say that to someone, truly believe all its implications, and go on with your day as though you hadn't just contemplated the "reality" that the most appalling and inconceivable atrocities will very soon happen to the human being you're talking to?

Yep! Still funny 🤣 Btw, the dog did two poos - being as you felt the need to pass comment 😂

You know you're not convincing anyone, right?

To be frank @LockForMultiball you are making rather large of it being just a cultural story to you and it doesn’t matter (your words), but you feel the need to be continually personally rude. Weird! But if that’s your need carry on. Here is a radical suggestion, to save your fingers : just ignore me. This is my final response to you on this thread, but I claim the right to change my mind if I want to. 🤪

Thank you though for being funny. 🤣.

https://www.gotquestions.org/spiritual-blindness.html

🤣🤣🤣 If I’d known you would be demanding proof, I would have taken a pic of the poos. 🤣🤣🤣

The only way I could make smaller of it is by not mentioning it.

The thing is, when you suggest ignoring you, I think you're assuming that I'm writing these responses solely for you. You think that feigning amusement will make me give up, as I'm apparently failing in my attempts to convince you.

In reality, I know you're almost unconvincable. Luxuriating in these grotesque ideas has poisoned your mind to the point where you almost certainly can't be reached. So my answers are mostly not for you. They're mostly for any other forum users who might want to read them, and for myself.

It's too easy for all of us to become anaesthetised to what people believe they are really talking about when they invoke Hell and God and meeting your maker during a discussion. It's such a familiar refrain that it's too easy to just not think about it or brush it off, when religious extremists like you casually sprinkle allusions to unconscionable supernatural violence directed towards their opponents through their posts, and demonstrate that they believe this unimaginable violence to be righteous, good and desirable.

If a random person somewhere told me delusions, I'd politely dis-engage. If it was a person that I knew I'd try contacting their family to recomend professional help from a psychiatrist.

@LockForMultiball I think you’re assuming that I’m writing these responses solely to you.

No, no assumption on my part - you open your post by quoting me, and my name. Therefore, you are responding directly to me. That is how it works.

BTW, no feigned amusement on my part … but maybe that is something you do, so you reflect that onto others 🤷I did find your rather puerile opening gambit to me and follow-up posts, to be amusing. Still do in fact 😂

Luxuriating in these grotesque ideas … invoke Hell and God … sprinkle allusions to unconscionable supernatural violence … unimaginable violence …

Say what now? Blimey!

As I said previously, I get that reading without comprehension can sometimes be a challenge. I’ve no idea where or why you have created such hyperbole from my posts on this thread. Clearly, you have created your own narrative, and made up stuff in your head about my responses to the return of Christ Jesus, for reasons best known only to you.

my answers are mostly not for you. They’re mostly for any forum users who might want to read them, and for myself.

Just in case you’re not aware, this is a public site that, barring any local restrictions, is available to be read, get this : world wide. I know, amazing, right? Also, just to be clear, this response is solely for you - the clue is, I quoted you. You are welcome. However, the world is free to read too, at its leisure. 😀

Well actually no. I am going to take no pleasure in people I love who don't know Christ, and who would fit the 'good person' profile quite a few of you have posted about, being lost eternally. It's very, very sad. I don't want that to happen, but each has free will and just like me, is able to make up their own mind about God, Jesus and everything else.

What resources - the bible, a collection of stories and musings by men (it’s always men, never ever women) who never even met Jesus? You don’t know know what’s going to happen, in 10, 20, 150 700 or 3000 years from now, no one does.

You keep saying “Can’t help you there, sorry.” I am not asking for any help, or any kind of “spiritual guidance”, in the form of your forbidding warnings to humanity. Going to give Armageddon a miss.

@LockForMultiball

this is a UK-based board with mostly UK posters, where voicing those dark thoughts and using them against other posters stands out as somewhat extreme.

Are you saying UK Christians are too nice and polite to ever say anything remotely challenging or Biblically-based to offend anyone? "Hell? No, no, we don't really believe in that. We believe in God of course, but Hell is too extreme. We don't want to upset or offend anyone." Is that what you'd prefer? Christians, do your own thing but don't think about upsetting anyone with images of hellfire or punishment of sins. Or even the very concept of sins! How unkind!

Some Christians just want to ignore parts of the Bible they don't like, that make them feel uncomfortable or may upset others. This is how people drift away from and eventually don't even believe in the proper Christian teachings.

D'you know if Jesus came today, people would say he was unkind, offensive and he'd likely be 'cancelled'.

But what about children who are not followers of your god, and Christ, on judgement day, what will happen to them?

I can’t be “lost in eternally” over something I don’t believe in.

Same as I’ll never go to heaven or hell - neither exist.

your rather puerile opening gambit

Ah, the good old "I know you are, you said you are, but what am I?" tactic. Widely known as by far the least childish tack to take in any altercation.

God loves children, they will be spared.

Going to be a lot of orphans!

So.... if you don't believe in something it just doesn't exist? How about not believing in your mortgage, or the speed limit? How would that work out? Not believing in something is all well and good, but it doesn't change the reality!

I did a quick AI check - now I know it’s not true - these are physically possible.

When Jesus returns, also known as the Second Coming, some believe that the following will occur:
The Rapture: Jesus will come for his church, and living Christians will be caught up to meet him in the air. The dead in Christ will also be raised.

Judgment: Jesus will judge the nations and separate the righteous from the wicked.

The Millennium: Jesus will reign on earth for 1,000 years.

The First Resurrection: Those who have been chosen will rise from their graves.

The establishment of the kingdom: Jesus will establish his government on earth and take his rightful place as King of heaven and earth.

The Bible teaches Christians to be ready for Jesus' return, but not to obsess over the timing. Some say that the signs of the end are always with us, but the degree and intensity of evil will increase.