Piddington Roars

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Can I draw your attention to this please ?
A village of 400 people in Oxfordshire, the government want to house 1200 migrants in an old RAF barracks nearby. No consultation and no infrastructure to support.
Before anyone accuses me of being racist, my family make up negates that.

https://thevillagethatroared.org/

Good contract for the coach company then.

Villages are taking their guidelines on what to do so the next place may do the same.

The best way to ensure people can be detained again while awaiting a decision would be to invest in speeding up the system.

Changes to the asylum system in 2000 meant asylum seekers whose claims were considered capable of quick determination were detained pending decision. ECtHR agreed that short-term detention to enable speedy processing of a claim was ECHR compliant. The system was suspended by the coalition government in 2015 after court challenges found the highly accelerated procedures, particularly the appeals, procedurally unfair. The courts didn’t find that processing asylum claims in detention was itself unlawful, but the government never got around to making the changes needed to make it fair and therefore lawful. https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CBP-7294/CBP-7294.pdf

So, if I wanted to make a difference, I’d be campaigning on the practical changes needed to make detention lawful. But it seems Piddington prefer the eye catching approach of a referendum.

Over a 1000 males. Awful situation for a small village. Many cities have no go areas so now the villages have to have them too!!

There are stories daily of men attacking women who weren't from the UK. We don't need to take any more men.

Well done Piddington, they don't want to be overrun with single males from a different culture, different values and beliefs. They are standing up for their way of life, their values and beliefs.

Amazing that this was a thing. That will protect everyone a leaflet on not to sexually assault or rape.

They tell lies.

Some pretend they have lost documents when they have destroyed them since they are migrants not asylum seekers.

Some have criminal records. Some for dreadful crimes.

Some are from terrorist organisations.
They are not all good, honest men seeking a new start and hoping to assimilate. All coming to a village near you.

My father was evacuated as a child when we were at war with Germany to keep him safe whilst his dad fought the war and his mother and older sister worked on the war effort. The men didn't run away and leave chilren in danger. They worked for their families. These single lone men are not welcome. What jobs will they do. Some would have us believe they are all doctors 🙄 we aren't stupid.

Amazing pointless victory for Piddington. I wonder what they’d do if they actually got their way?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckz7zyn1lwypo

Yeah I don't disagree with most of this.
Where I'm from it's so densely populated and diverse that the migrant hotel/accomodation made no meaningful difference to the local area. Other than it was easier to get a deliveroo quickly.

But in a small rural village where there's little infrastructure and virtually everyone else is white British or Christian you can see them standing out more.

I do want the young male asylum seekers that are already here to be able to have meaningful and productive lives and integrate and be accepted. Obviously that works both ways.

I find the argument that these men are in any way 'dangerous' incredibly dehumanising and racist. There is no evidence that these men will be any more of a problem than your average Nigel or Donald. The people of Piddington have a chance to welcome these refugees with open arms and show them the tolerance and understanding of the West but instead they show the real underbelly that is hidden in our rotten society.

They should be ashamed of themselves, I thought the Middle Class were better than this.

I understand the people of Piddington’s concerns, but I think there’s an element of nimbyism at play here. As Lisa Nandy said, in poorer areas (including where I live) houses have been turned into HMOs to house these people at an alarming rate. Why should poorer areas alone have to shoulder that burden? Of course, ultimately it is the government’s responsibility to stop the small boats coming in the first place.

I've been following this with interest. I live in a very diverse, very deprived inner city area. It is probably smaller than Piddington. We have two bail hotels, a massive custody suite that services the whole city, and around 45% of the local homeless charities supported housing. All these places were opened without any local consultation or notice, we count for nothing here. There is a supported house on my street, things have been so bad there that those who live close to it have had to keep a diary of incidents, this has included fights in the street, threats to kill and set it alight open drug dealing in the sight of children coming home from school and a great deal of noise. When some of the worst anti social behaviour made the local press the comments were all of the "well only scum live there so who cares" nature. We and i suspect similar areas in similar cities are dumping grounds and have been for many years. My point is that some of us have been disregarded and ignored and left to get on with it but a middle class village is seen as different and a special case.

@Lifeomars I feel your pain. The HMOs where I live have brought noise at all hours, litter everywhere, dodgy people hanging around in the street, open drug dealing, fires being started and fights. All while the landlords who run them rake in a fortune. It’s grim.

i've just posted something similar about the area i live in. Everyday I encounter street drinkers, am approached by beggars as I live in an inner city area that has essentially been a dumping ground for every social problem going. Because it is not a wealthy area we are expected to just get on with it.

I had an unofficial HMO next door to me, I had to call the police out three times due to various goings on including threats to me when I politely asked them to keep the noise down. It's a two up two down like mine and there were about 10 people living there, drug dealing going on, and the landlord who had 3 other properties getting the rent paid in cash. BTL and too much supported housing for people with very complex needs (all areas should take their share rather than concentrating it in one already deprived area) all contribute to adding immense strain to an less than afflluent area

Shame on them.

They could have used the opportunity to ask the lovely newcomers to do some baby sitting and dog walking and share some baking recipes with the nutritionists who are no doubt part of the group.

But no. Such a waste.

They could be all a big happy family.

Piddington have been treated exactly the same, they have not been consulted, everything is being rushed, they have 10 days to inspect over 1000 pages of a planning document and get their objections in. The difference is they haven't shrugged their shoulders and left doing something about it to someone else. They are fighting back, roaring, they might not succeed but they are trying their best. How many people had heard of Piddington 3 months ago? Due to their efforts this issue is being discussed worldwide, if you want change in your area then check out the Piddington roars website, read the blue print and consider following their lead.

When we found out about the latest flats being built by the Homeless Charity we organised a (very well attended) local meeting. We discovered it was planned via an A4 laminated notice tied to a lampost! Many objections were raised and submitted to the council's planning committee, all were ignored and planning was granted, we wanted flats for people who lived and worked in the area, it was ignored. We did not as you put it "shrug our shoulders", the plans were opposed by local businesses, our very hard working community worker (who has now lost her job due to funding cuts) and hundreds of local people. Nobody was opposed to housing homeless people but there are just too many projects in our area and we wanted other areas to take their share. However land and property is cheap here because it is a poor area.

First of all these men are not 'asylum seekers'. They are illegal immigrants.

Why would anyone pay to risk their lives crossing the channel in boats when they could buy an airline ticket? The reason?... because they are illegal immigrants and would never be allowed into the country.

There is plenty of evidence that they do not want to integrate and the fact that they have to be told not to rape women and girls says it all.

Fair enough, you have my sympathy but I feel it unfair to call Piddington a special case they had no more warning they you did.

Try saying no more then. Don't roll over and accept the decline in your area.

At least the villagers are taking a stand. They don't want their area to go to ruin.

Never heard of them. Most people know them now. They are standing up and saying no. One day no more will mean no more. That might not come until cities and towns are overrun, services stretched to breaking, not enough houses for these thousands of men, etc but there comes a breaking point where more and more people say no more men from different backgrounds, cultures that don't fit in, one day enough people will say no.

Or the ones that can just up and leave the mess to the ones left behind.

Local residents have done the following

Held monthly meetings with the police and council, always the same concerns are raised and the same excuses trotted out, no funding for anything, phone 101, report fly tipping online is all the advice given.

Written to and been so see the local MP
Opposed planning which was ignored
Got together and obtained funding for a community garden
When we were lumbered with the custody suite the Police and Crime Commissioner spun it as "an job creation opportnity for the community"
We do litter picks too

Our wonderful community worker was made redundant due to funding cuts.
It is a poor and deprived area so a lot of people do not have the time and energy to engage with things as they are in survival mode. We have a food bank which has queues down the street on the days it opens and our communtity kitchen does 300 free meals a week, it used to do around 70.

Won’t they have to establish their own parliament, currency, tax system and army?

How do you mean that an inner city area is defined so it would be smaller than Piddington? Do you mean geographically or in terms of population?

Guess so. They’ve said they know it’s meaningless but believe it sends a message.
To my mind it makes a bit of a mockery of the place but they seem rather pleased with themselves so each to their own.