Please or to access all these features

Petitions and activism

Piddington Roars

645 replies

dreamingofgoodhair · 21/08/2026 03:31

Can I draw your attention to this please ?
A village of 400 people in Oxfordshire, the government want to house 1200 migrants in an old RAF barracks nearby. No consultation and no infrastructure to support.
Before anyone accuses me of being racist, my family make up negates that.

https://thevillagethatroared.org/

OP posts:
Thread gallery
18
Switchnow · 15/09/2026 17:04

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 15/09/2026 16:53

From what I’ve read their own MP supports the government so I’m not sure they’ll make much traction there.

I’m assuming they appealed to women MPs in the hope they might understand the concerns due to women inheritently being more vulnerable to sexual violence, but many of those MPs couldn’t even describe what a woman is, so I agree it was futile from the get go.

No point writing to MPs outside of your constituency usually, it’s not about the issue it’s about the levers they have to do anything. Braverman will see the political capital in supporting them but she won’t do anything or achieve anything.

They’d be better making the positive case for another location and/or the site to be properly resourced so that men aren’t hanging around all day with nothing to do.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 15/09/2026 17:05

Switchnow · 15/09/2026 17:04

No point writing to MPs outside of your constituency usually, it’s not about the issue it’s about the levers they have to do anything. Braverman will see the political capital in supporting them but she won’t do anything or achieve anything.

They’d be better making the positive case for another location and/or the site to be properly resourced so that men aren’t hanging around all day with nothing to do.

In the real world they’re basically screaming into a void. We all know that.

Lemonraider · 15/09/2026 17:07

The local objections to the Waterlooville asylum plan came from a mix of residents, political figures, and the local authority itself. While the core arguments ranged from safety concerns to town regeneration, the opposition effectively created a united front that forced the Home Office to back down. 1, 2, 3]
The main objections were grouped into three primary areas:

  1. Safety and Structural Concerns (The Council's Stance)
  • Fire Regulation Violations: Havant Borough Council formally objected after an assessment revealed that the proposed building at 286-288 London Road did not comply with basic fire safety regulations. 1]
  • Lack of Support Infrastructure: The council raised serious concerns regarding whether there was an adequate level of oversight, support staff, and safety measures in place to protect both the building's occupants and the wider community. 1]
  1. High Street Regeneration & Resources (The Residents' Stance)
  • Impact on High Street Renewal: Residents argued that housing asylum seekers in newly built flats directly above the high street went against long-term plans to economically regenerate and revive the rundown town centre. 1]
  • Strain on Services: Local campaigns highlighted that Waterlooville’s infrastructure—particularly healthcare, schools, and policing—was already under severe pressure and could not handle additional public service demands. 1, 2]
  • Bypassing Local Consent: There was widespread local anger that the Home Office and its procurement partner, Clearsprings, initially attempted to push the plan through without proper community consultation or warning. 1, 2]
  1. Political Opposition & Public Protests
  • The Petition and Rallies: Local MP Suella Braverman championed the community's opposition, launching a petition that rapidly gathered over 10,000 signatures. This culminated in a peaceful anti-immigration protest in the town centre where more than 1,000 people gathered to voice their disapproval.
  • The "Inappropriate Location" Argument: Opposing politicians called the town-centre flats "utterly inappropriate," with some conservative councillors arguing that placing a concentrated group of individuals in the heart of a shopping district was the wrong approach for the local community.
  • 1, 2, 3, ]
Ultimately, the Home Office conceded that the combination of intense community pushback and the structural unsuitability of the building meant the project was unviable. 1, 2]

Havant Borough Council submits concerns about proposed asylum accommodation to the Home Office | Havant Borough Council

https://www.havant.gov.uk/news/2025/havant-borough-council-submits-concerns-about-proposed-asylum-accommodation-home-office

Switchnow · 15/09/2026 17:07

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 15/09/2026 17:05

In the real world they’re basically screaming into a void. We all know that.

Well yes, they chose a void rather than anything that could ever make a difference. Faced with a choice of no chance or slim chance, probably better to take the latter no?

MrsKiplingsSauna · 15/09/2026 17:08

Just a few weeks left to learn self defence. Grim.

Switchnow · 15/09/2026 17:09

Lemonraider · 15/09/2026 17:07

The local objections to the Waterlooville asylum plan came from a mix of residents, political figures, and the local authority itself. While the core arguments ranged from safety concerns to town regeneration, the opposition effectively created a united front that forced the Home Office to back down. 1, 2, 3]
The main objections were grouped into three primary areas:

  1. Safety and Structural Concerns (The Council's Stance)
  • Fire Regulation Violations: Havant Borough Council formally objected after an assessment revealed that the proposed building at 286-288 London Road did not comply with basic fire safety regulations. 1]
  • Lack of Support Infrastructure: The council raised serious concerns regarding whether there was an adequate level of oversight, support staff, and safety measures in place to protect both the building's occupants and the wider community. 1]
  1. High Street Regeneration & Resources (The Residents' Stance)
  • Impact on High Street Renewal: Residents argued that housing asylum seekers in newly built flats directly above the high street went against long-term plans to economically regenerate and revive the rundown town centre. 1]
  • Strain on Services: Local campaigns highlighted that Waterlooville’s infrastructure—particularly healthcare, schools, and policing—was already under severe pressure and could not handle additional public service demands. 1, 2]
  • Bypassing Local Consent: There was widespread local anger that the Home Office and its procurement partner, Clearsprings, initially attempted to push the plan through without proper community consultation or warning. 1, 2]
  1. Political Opposition & Public Protests
  • The Petition and Rallies: Local MP Suella Braverman championed the community's opposition, launching a petition that rapidly gathered over 10,000 signatures. This culminated in a peaceful anti-immigration protest in the town centre where more than 1,000 people gathered to voice their disapproval.
  • The "Inappropriate Location" Argument: Opposing politicians called the town-centre flats "utterly inappropriate," with some conservative councillors arguing that placing a concentrated group of individuals in the heart of a shopping district was the wrong approach for the local community.
  • 1, 2, 3, ]
Ultimately, the Home Office conceded that the combination of intense community pushback and the structural unsuitability of the building meant the project was unviable. 1, 2]

I’m familiar with what happened. I asked your opinion on solutions, not a stream of AI.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 15/09/2026 17:10

Switchnow · 15/09/2026 17:07

Well yes, they chose a void rather than anything that could ever make a difference. Faced with a choice of no chance or slim chance, probably better to take the latter no?

When they have an MP who actively supports the government then I guess the next thing they’ll do in the hope of making a difference will be to vote the government out when the next election comes round. That’s what people do.

Switchnow · 15/09/2026 17:12

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 15/09/2026 17:10

When they have an MP who actively supports the government then I guess the next thing they’ll do in the hope of making a difference will be to vote the government out when the next election comes round. That’s what people do.

Absolutely, that’s democracy. They voted them in, they can vote them out.

Lemonraider · 15/09/2026 17:16

Switchnow · 15/09/2026 17:09

I’m familiar with what happened. I asked your opinion on solutions, not a stream of AI.

There's more than you on this thread. I provided information about how an MP did influence the decision in conjunction with a local authority and the constituency for posters to read.

You wrote this:

"So what are her actionable solutions?"

That's definitely not asking my "opinion" is it?

Switchnow · 15/09/2026 17:25

Lemonraider · 15/09/2026 17:16

There's more than you on this thread. I provided information about how an MP did influence the decision in conjunction with a local authority and the constituency for posters to read.

You wrote this:

"So what are her actionable solutions?"

That's definitely not asking my "opinion" is it?

Oh I see, it looked like you were replying to me, my mistake.

Well yes, it is - I’m not randomly asking anyone’s views that I can look up myself. It’s not obvious to me that she has any solutions, she’s just vocal on what she doesn’t want.
You posted a story about her, you seem to support her, so what do you think are her solutions?

HMBB · 15/09/2026 17:26

Hoardasurass · 21/08/2026 12:22

They should not be allowed to claim asylum.
They are economic migrants who have travelled through multiple safe countries to get here.
Every single one of these men should be taken off the boats and flown straight back to their home countries, no housing, no benefits and no asylum claims end of.

This!

igglepiggll · 15/09/2026 17:45

Sadly, it is precisely the middle class Piddington folks who were in support of illegal migration, when these men were being dumped in working class areas. They were quick to call those who oppose it “far right”.
If a lot of white people were dumped in a small village in Afghanistan it would be called “colonialism” rather than “multiculturalism”.
This wake up call is needed.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 15/09/2026 17:46

igglepiggll · 15/09/2026 17:45

Sadly, it is precisely the middle class Piddington folks who were in support of illegal migration, when these men were being dumped in working class areas. They were quick to call those who oppose it “far right”.
If a lot of white people were dumped in a small village in Afghanistan it would be called “colonialism” rather than “multiculturalism”.
This wake up call is needed.

If you are correct then using that logic Andy is about to cause one hell of a revolution.

Lemonraider · 15/09/2026 17:49

Switchnow · 15/09/2026 17:25

Oh I see, it looked like you were replying to me, my mistake.

Well yes, it is - I’m not randomly asking anyone’s views that I can look up myself. It’s not obvious to me that she has any solutions, she’s just vocal on what she doesn’t want.
You posted a story about her, you seem to support her, so what do you think are her solutions?

I don't 'think' her solutions, they are written down.

MNLurker1345 · 15/09/2026 17:49

BillieWiper · 21/08/2026 13:30

Well there is a difference to the race/nationality of the people. But either way it'll be young men. So if there's an objection to young men because they're foreign then that could be construed as racist.

The debate very quickly disappears down the rabbit hole of “racist, no I’m not, yes you are”, when the more important questions are being avoided.

Many of these young men come from countries where women do not enjoy the same legal rights, freedoms or social position that women do in the UK. Many also come from societies in which religion plays a much greater role in law, family life and social expectations than it does here.

Surely the serious question is integration.

How is placing more than 1,000 single men from predominantly Muslim countries, beside a tiny rural community supposed to achieve that?

What happens after they have been processed? Those successful claims will need housing, they will need to learn English, they will need employment (where will they work?) and then they will be free to enter British society.

Putting such a large group together on one site and calling it accommodation is not an integration policy.

One poster suggested the site would create jobs. Perhaps it will, but who for and does that compensate for the scale of change being imposed on the local community?

climbintheback · 15/09/2026 17:52

I have the means to demonstrate in Piddington if anyone wants to join me for weeks months could be fun!

EasternStandard · 15/09/2026 18:02

Switchnow · 15/09/2026 17:07

Well yes, they chose a void rather than anything that could ever make a difference. Faced with a choice of no chance or slim chance, probably better to take the latter no?

What do you suggest they do? It’s not just write to your MP is it?

EasternStandard · 15/09/2026 18:04

Switchnow · 15/09/2026 16:56

I’m not sure how it’s ’a Labour thing’ when there were multiple sites used by the Conservative governments - Napier, Penally, Manston and Wethersfield.

2020/21 https://www.gov.uk/government/news/an-inspection-of-the-use-of-contingency-asylum-accommodation-key-findings-from-site-visits-to-penally-camp-and-napier-barracks

2021 https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-secure-site-for-processing-illegal-migrants

2023
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/asylum-seekers-arrive-at-wethersfield-accommodation-site

Naturally the opening of new sites will be under this government, which happens to be Labour. But do you imagine that a Conservative or Reform government would not have done the same? Last year, Zia Yusuf advocated for military bases to be used, and Kemi Badenoch has also called for camps to be built (though she’s vague on where) https://news.sky.com/story/where-can-asylum-seekers-go-if-they-cant-be-housed-in-hotels-13415282

Because they’re opening more and most people near to them don’t like it.

You said you didn’t mind mass accommodation nearby (not sure what number it is if it’s 1000 plus) but generally most do.

Switchnow · 15/09/2026 18:09

EasternStandard · 15/09/2026 18:04

Because they’re opening more and most people near to them don’t like it.

You said you didn’t mind mass accommodation nearby (not sure what number it is if it’s 1000 plus) but generally most do.

Edited

Of course, because they’re in government and the policy has been in place since 2020 and people have protested about hotels.

Do you think a Reform or Conservative government would have done something different?

Switchnow · 15/09/2026 18:10

EasternStandard · 15/09/2026 18:02

What do you suggest they do? It’s not just write to your MP is it?

I’ve said already what I would do in their position.

Clavinova · 15/09/2026 18:10

Switchnow · 15/09/2026 16:56

I’m not sure how it’s ’a Labour thing’ when there were multiple sites used by the Conservative governments - Napier, Penally, Manston and Wethersfield.

2020/21 https://www.gov.uk/government/news/an-inspection-of-the-use-of-contingency-asylum-accommodation-key-findings-from-site-visits-to-penally-camp-and-napier-barracks

2021 https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-secure-site-for-processing-illegal-migrants

2023
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/asylum-seekers-arrive-at-wethersfield-accommodation-site

Naturally the opening of new sites will be under this government, which happens to be Labour. But do you imagine that a Conservative or Reform government would not have done the same? Last year, Zia Yusuf advocated for military bases to be used, and Kemi Badenoch has also called for camps to be built (though she’s vague on where) https://news.sky.com/story/where-can-asylum-seekers-go-if-they-cant-be-housed-in-hotels-13415282

Last year, Zia Yusuf advocated for military bases to be used, and Kemi Badenoch has also called for camps to be built (though she’s vague on where)

Kemi Badenoch and Zia Yusuf have both talked about 'detention centres'. Presumably then, asylum seekers could be detained in such camps/military bases until their applications are processed.

EasternStandard · 15/09/2026 18:12

Switchnow · 15/09/2026 18:10

I’ve said already what I would do in their position.

Was it write to your MP? I thought you were happy with mass accommodation anyway. So you’d welcome it right?

Switchnow · 15/09/2026 18:18

EasternStandard · 15/09/2026 18:12

Was it write to your MP? I thought you were happy with mass accommodation anyway. So you’d welcome it right?

No, I didn’t suggest that.

EasternStandard · 15/09/2026 18:19

Switchnow · 15/09/2026 18:18

No, I didn’t suggest that.

Well you’d be fine with it anyway.

Switchnow · 15/09/2026 18:21

Clavinova · 15/09/2026 18:10

Last year, Zia Yusuf advocated for military bases to be used, and Kemi Badenoch has also called for camps to be built (though she’s vague on where)

Kemi Badenoch and Zia Yusuf have both talked about 'detention centres'. Presumably then, asylum seekers could be detained in such camps/military bases until their applications are processed.

Perhaps - the article links to Badenoch’s comments where she does say detention centres.

‘Senior Reform UK politician Zia Yusuf suggested to Sky News on Wednesday that migrants should be housed in "modular accommodation at military bases". Meanwhile, Conservative leader Kemi Badenoch called on the government to "build proper camps where we keep people safe" last week.’

Would the people of Piddington be content if the men there were detained rather than free to leave?