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Does anyone know how I can get a night nurse. Please help.

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melsy · 03/11/2003 11:52

I am at the end of my tether.I have no one to help , as DH at work and mum has house full with ill father and younger sister & MIL just comes to VISIT and have TEA for F* sake and conveniently not available to help.

I cannot cope with no sleep anymore and baby just doesnt sleep long enough to have a sleep/rest during the day. I just sit sobbing every day and at night have to look after 6wk old DD who wont sleep past 3:00am! Not fair to get DH up to take over as he drives far to work every day and having difficult time with work.

This has been going on for 3 weeks now.Suffering real bad as still havent recovered from awful birth. Please any suggestions , I live in North London, Enfield way.

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pie · 03/11/2003 15:49

Having just got up from a 2 hour nap after getting my mum to take DD1&2 to sit/play in a freezing park can I say it was worth every moment. No it wasn't a full nights sleep (I shouls coco) but you will feel so much better.

Just to add to the chorus of 'it does get better', well it does.

Please ask for some help and don't beat yourself up!!!

(Wow, can I just say in my best Paul Whitehouse/Fast Show voice isn't mumsnet briiiiliant!!!)

CountessDracula · 03/11/2003 16:40

Melsy, just emailed you those pages re swaddling.

pie · 03/11/2003 16:42

Countess, would you mind emailing me those pages too?

DD2 HATES being put down.

please??? xx

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Beccarollo · 03/11/2003 16:43

What info is it about swaddling CD?

I ask as I swaddle Harvey and would like to carry on but I dont use a technique just wrap him up tight!! He is 8 weeks and quite big so starting to get out quite easily sometimes.

Just wondering if it might be something I could benefit from too

CountessDracula · 03/11/2003 16:44

Sure, if you both send me a contact email I will forward them to you, just pages I scanned in from a book which saved my life!

alibubbles · 03/11/2003 17:45

I can't believe how much fantastic advice has been posted since I did earlier. Mind you that's what Mumsnet is brilliant for.

Have been busy with my mindies, who have been gorgeous today, was a little worried that the 8 month might be clingy after 2 weeks with M&D, but she was delighted to see me this morning, crowing with delight and had to peel the 18 month off at 4.00pm to hand her back, - well she has got 2 older sisters who are mean to her and shut her out of their rooms ( they are lovely girls really. but a baby sis can be a pain!)

I laughed out loud at Aloha's post, my kids thought I was demented, such a compliment, thank you, and to Coddy, cyber hug coming your way!

Zerub, my website is here , sorry to all of you who have seen me post it before. It does need updating a bit. I have just spent a few days in Switzerland with the two lovely children on the last page, I am amazed how much the 9 year old still misses me, but then I looked after him for 7 years, fulltime and many overnights.

Melsy, there is brilliant advice on here, swaddling - I have done it with babies as old as six months who wouldn't settle. I used to take DS out in a big coach built pram and walk the streets, bouncing it up and down saying, you will go to sleep, you will go to sleep, you will.......... I have done the car bit too.

Always always get your self sorted first, you'll feel much better, dressed and ready to face the world and cope, nobody cares if the baby hasn't been bathed, or still in a baby gro, let her cry for a bit, you won't hear her in the shower!

Babies are hard work, they are tiring, and even with all my experience I sometimes find a new one hard work, so will snatch 10 mins on the sofa, in front of the TV, guaranteed to send me to sleep!

The baby I look after at the moment was a nightmare for her mother for the first 3 months, but when she smiled at mum in her cot one morning, she felt the love wash over her, she hadn't thought it was going to happen ever, she fell in love with her baby, and things began to get better. Everyone expects you to love your baby, but it isn't always that simple or automatic. It will happen, soon, I promise.

Get a baby sitter, Sitters are well vetted, scarey as you say, the idea of a stranger looking after your baby, ask for one with newborn experience, ask for a mature mum, granny, not a youngster or nursery nurse, you need someone who understands how you are feeling, go to bed and catch up on sleep, you don't have to go out!

Lots of love, there is lots of support here.

Ghosty · 03/11/2003 19:36

Dear Melsy ....
There is not much more than I can add to this fantastic advice that you have had! I just wanted to say that when reading your original post I was thinking "That was me when DS was 6 weeks old"
I was a total basket case ... I too had had a terrible birth, DS had also been ill and so by 6 weeks we were a mess. At his 7 week check up the doctor said that I had to start all over again and look at DS as if he had just come home from hospital.
He never slept for longer than 40 minutes in the day and no longer than 2 hours at night ... and then from 3am he was awake all the time.
I remember going for my 6 week check up at the hospital (without DS for the first time) and ringing DH from the car saying that I wasn't coming home ......
I also remember feeling that everyone else with prams looked happy and normal and how could they when I was going through hell.
I hated everyone who already had children because I felt they had all lied to me.
I wanted DS to disappear so that I could have my life back.

These things helped me ....
a) One night I left DS with DH for the night ... DS was bottle fed by then ... and went to sleep at my sister's house. I felt better doing that than someone taking him out from my house as I felt at my house I needed to do 'stuff'.
b) Someone told me at 7 weeks (not my HV 'cos she was pants) that I should get him down to sleep no more than 2 hours after he woke up ... it was the BEST piece of advice anyone EVER gave me ... I had no idea!!!
c) I used to walk miles with DS in the Front Pack ... I got to know our local housing estate like the back of my hand. Often I would walk with tears streaming down my face but at least DS was sleeping and quiet. I never dared driving around because I was so tired that I was worried I would crash the car.
d) I was given Gina Ford's book at 9 weeks by my sister. I know you say you don't like the idea and to be quite frank I don't want to go that route with my next baby (yes, I AM doing it again!! ) BUT for DS and me at the time it was a godsend. I learned about sleep patterns, about how to teach my baby good habits, about how to swaddle (another BRILLIANT piece of advice), about nap times. After a shaky first few days DS put himself into the routine and from 10 weeks he was a happier baby and I was most definitely a happier Mummy. Now I know that there are 'anti GF campaigners' out there who would say that DS would probably have got himself sorted by 10 weeks anyway but I will never ever know that and GF was what helped me.
e) I went to my GP at 8 weeks, broke down into tears, and 'fessed up to not coping. He was fantastic and a great help.
Umm ... I will post more if I have anymore thoughts ... but you must know that you are not the only one to feel this way ....

Thinking of you and sending hugs .... {{{{{}}}}}

melsy · 03/11/2003 19:57

CD - What is this book called? Would like to get hold of it. Thank u for sending me the pages on swaddling.

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kayleigh · 03/11/2003 20:07

melsey, not sure if you are still interested in the night nurse after all this good advice but we had one for ds2 and it was a godsend. My mum offered to pay for a night nurse for a week, but because I had ds2 early the night nurse due to come to us was still on another job, so the first week she did two nights for us, non consecutive. I realised this was more beneficial and so strung out 7 nights of night nurse over 3 weeks. It meant that every 3 or 4 nights we knew we would get a good night sleep and she was happy with this arrangement. I think it very much depends on the agency and the individual nurses.
I have looked for the agency details for you but think they have been chucked out as it was well over 2 years ago now.

melsy · 03/11/2003 20:09

How can I thank all of u for your support and advice today. It has been so wonderful to have everyone send their thoughts and healing words.

Dh has been home for an hour and said he will help tonight early hrs and not go to work tommorow.What a love, he is trying as hard as he can.Feel bad that he should take more time off work.
My mum finally came round at 3:00 and let me go for 2hrs sleep. Woke at 5:00 to find DD crying and crying, so we took it in turns to try to rock her to sleep for an hr, but to no avail.She is so unhappy, all that weezing,& crackly coughing. We r wondering if she has started teething , as she seems desperate to stuff her fist in her mouth and suck it off.Or could that just be the sore throat?

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melsy · 03/11/2003 20:12

Thanku Kayleigh, we have been talking about wether to arrange it, but not sure how long it will take to sort out interview etc with Night Nannies.By which time she could be settling more and then it might seem a waste of money.

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Angiel · 03/11/2003 20:48

Hi Melsey, I haven't read the whole thread so apologies if this has already been mentioned. Have you considered keeping the baby in bed with you? I found this was the easiest way to get some sleep. I know its not for everybody but it really worked for me.

melsy · 03/11/2003 21:06

We sometimes do that in the morning when desperate , but I do worry as my DH smokes and it is not meant to be the best thing in that respect.I also worry about one of us rolling onto her,so she lays on our chests (then i worry she will roll off!!! Cant win, so the anxiety will make me restless.Thank u though for suggestion Angiel.

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Lamin · 03/11/2003 21:15

Melsy - I haven't got anything new to add but just to say I know exactly how you feel. I could have written most of your posts myself when my ds was six weeks old (he's know 6 months). I rang my mum up when he was 4 weeks old (she lives 3 hours away)and just howled down the phone to her - she thought ds had died. Like you I thought I was the only one not coping and like you I couldn't believe I wasn't able to cope. I really thought that if I did everything right my baby would behave as expected - HA! what a lot I had to learn. I really missed my job (PR - you journos probably hate me ) and was seriously considering going back early. Anyway things have got soooo much better I have actually delayed my return!!! Now if someone had told me I would do that 4 months ago I would never have believed them.

If my mum hadn't scooped me up and made me go and stay with her for a week I would have got a night nanny. Do whatever it takes to get some sleep - I did the matyr thing for far far too long.

CountessDracula · 03/11/2003 21:38

Melsy good on your dh, he sounds wonderful

The book is called "The Happiest Baby" by Harvey Karp, you can get it on Amazon, here is the link.

It has lots of v sensible advice on calming your baby and sleep. My dd was a bit of a mare sleep wise until I started swaddling at 6 weeks ish. She has been pretty much brilliant since, unless she is ill of course.

melsy · 03/11/2003 21:57

Going to bed now as DH is staying up for 11:00 feed & medicine. Hope to speak to some of u tommorow. I will attempt 3:00am feed and told DH to expect to be woken if going nutty still by 5:00!!!

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CountessDracula · 03/11/2003 22:04

Beccarollo and Pie, have sent you the stuff too now!

aloha · 03/11/2003 22:36

Melsy, I'm absolutely delighted you have talked to your dh. I always thought he'd come up trumps if you talked to him. As I've said so many times, I was just like you - thought I had to do it all myself until I started to unravel. Don't feel bad about it, it is his baby too, he wants to help and it can have huge benefits. I know I value and love my dh more because he did so many night shifts with me and instead of me, and my ds has the most amazingly intimate relationship with his dad too. The hard, physical grind really cements the love, long term IMO. Take the offers and make the most of them as you seem to be doing and you will be a better, happier, saner partner, daughter and mother for it so everyone wins. Now arrange a nice day out!!

Lamin · 04/11/2003 09:35

Hi Melsy - a great day out idea for you. My dh bought me a facial at Agua spa in the Sanderson hotel. It was fab - so luxurious and indulgent and a wonderful facial. But the best bit of all was the private relaxation area I was shown to after, a white feather filled chaise longue surrounded by white curtains - I had an hours kip, you can stay for as long as you like! So I thought that would be great for you - a fantastic combination of glamour and sleep.

melsy · 04/11/2003 09:43

ooooH Lamin sounds devine!!! My husband treated me last yr to a day at the K spa in Kensington Hotel and I had a lovely time.They use all the ESPA range which I love.Pamper Heaven!!! May be I will ask for another one!!!! There is a great place more locally, restuarant upstairs and a Sanderson like Spa below. Maybe DH can treat me & I will take my mum too. OOOH inspired now!!! Have u eaten at Spoons at the Sanderson?? The outside table area is FANTASTIC , like being on holiday!!!!!!

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melsy · 04/11/2003 09:44

I think its called Spoons, I cant remember??!!!

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Beccarollo · 04/11/2003 09:45

CD - Confessing to a bit of dim moment here!! I received your email - thanks Only to receive I have that book but have never read it properly - will go and read it now!!

Lamin · 04/11/2003 09:50

I haven't eaten there but would love to. Its our wedding anniversary tonight and DH booking a surprise venue for dinner, would be funny if he took me there.

You sound perkier today - how was last night?

(another great spa is SPA NK in W11 - Rose Body Cocoon, yum yum yum)

melsy · 04/11/2003 09:51

I think u can tell had better night,sort of, as started thinking about nice things to do.Dh did 11:00 feed, DD went to bed at 12ish & she slept through till 4:30!!!gave her 2oz, went back to bed at 5:00, but unfortunately she woke up at 5:30 screaming, so DH brought her into bed with us as she wouldnt calm down and laid her on me and we all slept till 7:40!!!! Was nice to get a bit more sleep, but not sure I should make this a habit. Could her throat infection be making her unhappy at this time of the morning every day???? DD is staying home today(bless him), so I can have a break and give my mum THE DAY OFF!!!!

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CountessDracula · 04/11/2003 09:52

Yes I was just wondering the same thing. Melsy you sound like a different person today!

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