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Wife swap

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Tinker · 07/01/2003 23:20

Well? What do we think?

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Tinker · 21/01/2003 22:12

That spat at the end was fab, but it always ends up women attacking women doesn't it? Just tried to get into teh C4 chat thing ( I know!) too busy!!! Thought Kate was fab, absolutely no doormat. Just couldn't understand why shrill woman had to work such looooong hours though and 2 hours away? And agree, with 6 kids (and I couldn't tell who was teh foster child so that must say soemthing) you'd need to be militaristic. And they stil didn't have to get up at 5.30!!!!!!! I agree with maxim, a dirty home is a happy home!

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kkgirl · 21/01/2003 22:13

i can't believe the people they have on are real. Haven't seen them all but the men seem like real chauvinistic pigs and the women well!!
The woman with one kid who wouldn't let her make any cakes, (she does that at nursery),and was so above anyone else, against the women with six who thought she knew it all. It served her right when she took that dummy off the little girl, when she went ballistic. And I would have slapped the women with sixs' mother if she had have talked to me like that.
God some people don't know they're born do they?

WideWebWitch · 21/01/2003 22:15

Yeah, I wouldn't have tried to take the dummy away, no way!

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Tinker · 21/01/2003 22:18

I did wonder if Mark had been a bit prompted to make soem of his complaints. They seemed a bit contrived. And, yes, mil was not excatly tactful - that I'm looking like I'm listening to you but I'm really just going to dismiss everything you say expression.

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elliott · 21/01/2003 22:27

there were some classic quotes though. how about 'that's not crying, that's just noise!!'

miggy · 21/01/2003 22:32

I might have missed something but if kate (?) didnt like childcare- where were the younger children during the day? On the day he did breakfast the little girl had evaporated by the time she came down (lazy tyke!)
I did think it was a bit unfair though giving her 6 kids to look after- dont think I could cope and Im used to 3.

robinw · 21/01/2003 22:34

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Clarinet60 · 21/01/2003 22:37

People feel differently about working and f/t childcare and to each their own, but when she said she was DOING IT FOR THE CHILD, I had to swear at the telly. Why can't people at least admit things?

kkgirl · 21/01/2003 22:38

No she wasn't regretting letting Lottie make cakes, she was horrified that they were making all that mess, and there is no way she would let Lottie make all that mess in her "beautiful house. I've known some people like that, control freaks.
She was stuck up, thought she was better than the other woman and said so!!!1

emsiewill · 21/01/2003 22:39

Although I work myself, I couldn't help agreeing with some of the things MO6 said at the end - and the defense of "Lottie has a lovely home" sounded a bit hollow.
Have to say though, there's no way I could live in such a small house with 6 kids, but I hope that I'll always be able to keep sight of the end (happy children) rather than the means (got to work 12 hours per day).
Sorry if this makes no sense - had a couple of glasses of wine.

emsiewill · 21/01/2003 22:40

And I am guilty of saying "painting is something they do at school, not in my house". Sometimes I hav to really force myself to ignore the mess, so I can really relate to that.

pupuce · 21/01/2003 22:40

There was no chance for these 2 to see eye-to-eye... they have such different views on life and what they expect out life/husband/kids...
I can see both sides of the arguments as I have been up to a point on similar paths as these 2... but I do not have 6 kids... I might... I do think that dropping little Lottie at nursery at 8 AM and coming back home at 8PM when Lottie is in bed... means she sees hre daughter very little during the week... (I did that too swith DS and then chose for another lifestyle... PERSONAL choice not for everyone I admit!)... I think the way she felt defensive was showing signs of her knowing that she had no choice but to do this and didn't know how to get out of that spiral... BUT WE ALWAYS HAVE A CHOICE (I think)

Hilary · 21/01/2003 22:44

TBH I was just so glad not to be either of them! Though I did agree with more of what the MO6 was saying and thought the other woman was insufferable.

musica · 21/01/2003 22:45

I think the point about the cakes was that she felt upset that she didn't feel able to do that with Lottie, because she was worried about the mess - I think she really enjoyed it, because she said it made her think about the lifestyle she'd chosen.

I have to say, I think it would have been more interesting to compare a SAHM with 1 or 2 children and a working mum with the same number.

lalaa · 21/01/2003 22:50

I just thought that the last bit when they both really laid into one another was really sad. I agree that it is all about personal choice in the end, and I feel that they both did mothers everywhere a disservice by being so awful to one another, pressing all the wrong buttons and hitting nerves around the country, I'm sure. We all have to live with difficult decisions and having a real dig at one another on national television about the way they brought up their children was just painful.

robinw · 21/01/2003 23:01

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WideWebWitch · 21/01/2003 23:06

Victoria Beckham, for David reasons

Clarinet60 · 21/01/2003 23:13

Anyone, for DH reasons

clucks · 21/01/2003 23:14

Droile, You'll appreciate him once you've had to put up with mine.

Clarinet60 · 21/01/2003 23:16

LOL clucks

cerys · 22/01/2003 08:42

emsiewill, I am a heat subscriber too - DH gave me a subscription for Christmas!

I don't usually watch this programme but did enjoy it last night. Felt glad not to be married to either man, admired Kate for not decking that patronising Tracy! I thought Mark looked a bit uncomfortable when Tracy was having a go at Kate and saying her house was dirty.

Onadowner · 22/01/2003 09:00

I had a bit of an issue with the pumpkin thing.

Why did the Dadof1 promise his daughter that Mumof6(sorry, can't exactly remember who name was what) would make the pumpkin if he could not guarantee what time she would be home? (or maybe I missed something because I kept flicking channels).

I thought the Mumof1 was really rude at the end when Mumof6 was trying to put her points across in a calm way.

And to make the assumption that because you choose to be a housewife and SAHM that you are a doormat????

bells2 · 22/01/2003 09:17

I thought Kate and her Mum over-stepped the mark on the working mother thing and can understand why Tracey was so upset and defensive. However, even as a working mum I think they had a point. A 2 hour commute each way is a terrible waste of 20 hours a week you could potentially be with your child. Given it's a secretarial job, surely she could have found something under an hour away at least. To be fair though, her husband was home at 3.30pm every day so if the roles were reversed, no doubt there wouldn't have been so much attention on the fact.

Tracey did seem to attach far too much value to her "beautiful" house too IMO.

elliott · 22/01/2003 09:17

She was rude because she felt hurt and defensive (I think). I have to say I felt very sorry for Mo1 and hoped she would be able to have a long hard think about her life choices. I think she knew the price she was paying was too high but didn't think she had an alternative. No, I'm not saying she should give up her job to be a SAHM, but just try and rejig the relative time and effort spent commuting/working vs being with her daughter.

But yes, unforgivable and extremely insensitive to try and remove the dummy. Why on earth didn't her father JUST SAY NO??

pamina · 22/01/2003 09:25

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