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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Week 2 - Low Carb Bootcamp - my favourite week!

973 replies

BIWI · 16/10/2017 07:17

I love this week, because this is when all the naysayers and doubters realise that this WOE really works!

(... and those who've cheated realise that that really doesn't work Wink)

Here's the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness for you to record your first loss

I missed most of this weekend as I have my very lovely SIL staying with us, prior to her leaving for a 6 month stint in Australia. So I haven't been able to be as glued to the laptop as I am usually.

Glad to hear that some of you have reported in good losses already - I'll look forward to hearing the rest today!

Good luck everyone, for this second week. Hopefully after a good first week you'll know it's worth it Flowers

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Oncewaswho · 18/10/2017 11:44

Gammel - I had concluded the same myself that lapses ought to mean starting the two weeks again. I may well do that.

Prettybird - I'm very happy to eat fattier meat, we had pork belly last week and I ate the fat from lamb chops, which I wouldn't normally also streaky bacon. But I really cannot bear buttery or oily veg, they turn my stomach, that includes when they are roasted in oil. I am also struggling with using more butter for my morning omelettes, I normally use just enough to coat the pan but have been adding more and it results in a very greasy omelette. I think I have been overly reliant on cheese so far to try and make up the fat element of my diet.

The only way I really like butter is on bread unfortunately, I don't mind a small amount mashed into swede though. I will also see if I can find celeriac, I am growing some but they aren't very big yet.

prettybird · 18/10/2017 12:01

Celeriac should be easier to find in the supermarkets now that it is back in season. It's back in stock in Lidl Smile - over the summer I had to make a special trip to Tesco or Sainsbury's to find it.

How about things like crispy roasted chicken skin to help up the fat levels?

ilovecherries · 18/10/2017 12:05

CoCo welcome :)

I've got mum and dad coming down from Inverness for a week. I was up there a month ago and mum did incredibly well cooking for me - they were both really supportive though dad told me gloomily that the minute I was out of the house the butter was off the menu again. I'm glad I got my little weight loss boost this morning as it will help me stay focussed even with guests.

Oncewaswho · 18/10/2017 12:06

I do like crispy chicken skin but it's not really an every day sort of thing, we hardly ever have roasts. I could look and see if there is any skin-on cooked chicken in the supermarket, or buy a hot one from the rotiserrie though, yum. I also love roasted chicken wings, with oil, salt, a bit of rosemary. Maybe I should cook up a couple of packs of those and stick them in the fridge.

prettybird · 18/10/2017 12:07

Sounds like a plan Smile

ponygirlcurtis · 18/10/2017 12:10

Gammel I had noticed that about butter too, an own-brand block has gone from being under £1 in Tesco or Aldi to around £1.35 as you said. Wonder why? (Are we creating a rush on butter due to all the Bootcampers? Grin)

GeneandFred · 18/10/2017 12:12

Thanks all for the recommendations for pork scratchings. Will give it a go.

Today is going to be a struggle for me. Left the house at 11am and won't be back till 3am. I had a decent breakfast of scrambled eggs with chorizo, spring onions and Feta cheese. And I've literally Brought as much snacky and lunch bits with me but I won't be eating any hot food today, think that may throw me a bit. Hoping I can get through it. Hmm

Oncewaswho · 18/10/2017 12:14

I discovered the joys of salt and vinegar pork scratchings from a market at the weekend. Probably a bit of a fail on the "processed foods" front, but the label said zero carbs which is the main thing. They were very nice indeed.

Mimosa1 · 18/10/2017 12:34

Hi everyone,
Hope you're all well. Well done on SV and NSVs alike. I've been thinking about what indeed my children, spurred on by the miniscoff bolognese that happens to be low carb that I'm now buying for myself, and it's been really interesting to me. For instance, I'd never dream of feeding my toddler a Diet Coke, a fizzy drink, lots of sweeties, a highly salted takeaway or other highly processed food and conversely, I'm often trying to get more vegetables, FF milk and fish down her, compare the sugar content of yoghurts before I buy them, etc. I don't think I'm on the extreme spectrum at all, e.g. I'm not one of those mothers who buys organic everything. Basically, she is very precious to me, and I try and make sure she has a nutritious diet she's a massively fussy eater and going through the terrible 2a so how much actually goes down her is debatable! BUT it's got me thinking. Why would I put things in my body that I would be unhappy to find her eating on a regular basis? (Obviously treats for her are absolutely fine. This isn't about her diet) What I'm trying to get across is there isn't a magical cut off age where things aren't "bad for you" anymore. Not sure I'm making myself clear at all, but trying to convey we are all precious and should think about eating like we are :-) Not sure if that makes sense!

Mimosa1 · 18/10/2017 12:35

Indeed = I feed

Mimosa1 · 18/10/2017 12:39

And clearly I've not out her on a low carb diet!

Mimosa1 · 18/10/2017 12:40

Out = put aaargh aargh

InkyToesies · 18/10/2017 12:45

@Adios So sorry to hear of the loss of your beloved pet. You know this already, but euthanasia is one of most loving and kind things we can do for our animal companions.

@BIWI If you have a moment, I wonder if you could please explain the macro nutrient ratio of fat, protein and carbs on this WOE? I've read about it on some of the links in the spreadsheet of fabulousness, and wonder if it's by weight, size, calorie value, or what? Is it something an entry-level LCHF-er like me should be that concerned about?

Right now, I'm sticking with the 'eat plenty fat, a bit of protein and only carbs from veggies < 5% per 100g' mantra. Also, eat til I'm satisfied, rather than poking masses of Brie down my neck with a stick.

ChinchillaFur · 18/10/2017 12:59

Sorry to hear so many people are struggling. Someone's going to get the big stick soon I reckon! Grin Remember we are worth it and I for one refuse to eat anything to make someone else happy or more comfortable. If I don't want to eat I just say I'm not feeling great or not hungry.

Lunch today was eggs benedict - 1/2 gammon steak left over, 1 poached egg, HM hollandaise sauce with about 1/4 pack of butter, 4 asparagus and some rocket/spinach leaves. Twas gorgeous. I had some sauce left and mopped it all up with cucumber slices.

Tonight's dinner is going to be fillet steak, asparagus and celeriac dauphinoise. I'm so excited! How can this be diet food?

My downfall will be bread. It has been eventually on the other occasions when I've LC'ed. My plan after bootcamp is occasionally to allow myself half a LIDL High Protein Roll. Apparently half a roll is only about 3g carbs and they've recently shrunk so should be ok. I do not miss pasta, rice, potatoes at all. I do have to hold my breath in the bakery section at LIDL at the moment. That will be a NSV for me when I don't have to do that!

ClearEyesFullHearts · 18/10/2017 13:13

Mimosa that made perfect sense and you're right.

As she grows older I think you'll find it increasingly difficult to resist the societal pressure for all the shit food.

Bags of Haribo become de rigeur for the whole class when someone has a birthday, so 30 children in a class, that's a month of daily Haribo per year.

Birthday parties--the cake, the sweets, the crisps, the sausage rolls and pork pies and mini pizzas.

Then Halloween (enough sweets to last a year), Easter (with an egg they could fit inside of), a chocolate advent calendar.

And on and on.

I've tried to estimate how much sugar per year that might be but got cross and sad and gave up!

It's not normal or heathy to have so much sugar and fake food as a regular, accepted, part of our daily diets. It just isn't.

Thiswillbemyusername · 18/10/2017 13:39

@Mimosa1 I've thought about that too. However if I didn't feed my daughter carbs, she wouldn't eat anything. I'm hoping she'll be a bit more accepting of new foods when she gets a bit older (she's 2)

NutButterNutter · 18/10/2017 13:40

Just weighed and I have gained 2lbs... normally I don't weigh every day, but jumped on. Could it just be that I have a giant foods mountain in my intestines (Confused), not enough water or just the time of day?! I'm trying to keep motivated so am not about to wobble but it'd be good to know if fluctuations by as much as that are normal. Thank you!!

SayrraT · 18/10/2017 13:50

Very normal nut

sheepysheep · 18/10/2017 13:50

Chortling away at my desk at the vision of inky's Brie pokey stick...! I know exactly what you mean.
I tried looking at macros using MyNetDiary but I found that the nutritional info on the labels didn't marry with their database when it came to carbs so I think it's unreliable. MFP might be better but when I signed up you had to tick a "we will access and use all your data as we see fit" box so I didn't bother.
When starting out I wouldn't worry about the macros. I've been doing it a couple of years - lost 3.5st in about 6 months and have been happily maintaining on BC light since without worrying too much about macros. I found that weight has crept on a bit in the last few weeks due to having a rest (I'd been training for a triathlon) and also carb creep in the form of too many nuts. I've had a nut amnesty and the weight is sliding off again - happy days.
But, to answer your question the macros I've seen quoted are approximately 5-10: 20-25: 75-80 C:P:F - it's done on calories with carbs and protein yielding c 4kcal / g and fat yielding c 9kcal / g. You need about 0.8-1g protein per kg body weight per day. I personally think trying to balance it all is overly tricky and you have to weigh / keep track of your food which spoils the simplicity of this WOE. Your mantra is perfect and it's what I go off - and I have learnt my lesson recently that snacking on table spoons of peanut butter / family sized bags of nuts is not a good idea when you stop training for 1-2h a day...

Grah0SoontobeaFitty · 18/10/2017 13:53

Can someone 1 add my weigh 199.4lb please.

Out on holiday around central Canada. Don't haven't rtft sneaking Wi-Fi from McDonalds for just a coffee.
Rode 100 miles yesterday bit wind meant getting picked up. Bit iffy in the forest at dusk.

Hope you are all enjoying the benefits on day 1 of 61. KOKO you are with it

sheepysheep · 18/10/2017 14:22

I just did some macro calculations with this site:

keto-calculator.ankerl.com/

You can put in lots of information, including your activity levels, and it works out your macros. You can also change your CHO intake. Mine came out at 1850kcal 25g:85g:157g C:P:F for maintenance which is 5% 18% 77%. Factoring a 10% reduction in calories for weight loss it is 1666kcal 25g:85g:136g 6% 20% 74%.

It's quite fun to play with but I CBA being a slave to it and weighing / calculations so will stick with the vague tracking of carbs and steer clear of the nuts #nutsaremynemesis.

NutButterNutter · 18/10/2017 14:25

Thanks SayrraT Smile

Scabbersley · 18/10/2017 15:09

Had tuna and Mayo salad at about 12. Bought a pack of pork scratchings from the butcher, happily munched a couple then saw they were 7g carbs. Made with wheat flour. I chucked them in the bin! Was really hungry when I got home so had an avocado with a dollop of pate in the middle. Will have a small bowl of bolognaise sauce with some lettuce and cheese when I get home later at about 8.30pm. I have a small piece of cheese and lots of water to drink whole out and about.

GrumpyOldFucker · 18/10/2017 15:40

@princessbear80 I was getting bored of doing my food but you’ve encouraged me to carry on.

Yesterday was
Lunch - soup with ham and broccoli
Dinner - 2 x chicken thighs with coleslaw. I do love my fat!

BTW I now always make my own mayonnaise with a stick blender - it’s super quick and you know exactly what oil is going into it. I usually have a mix of light olive oil and cold pressed rape seed for the omegas.

Today
Lunch - chicken laksa with broccoli
Dinner - curry, possibly beef, with courgette & mushroom.

Tomorrow DH is back from a long business trip so we’ll be going out for a steak. Yum!

CremeDeSudo · 18/10/2017 15:53

Has anyone tried Bulletproof coffee? Any good recipes?