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Week 2 - Spring Low Carb Bootcamp - how was the first weigh-in?!

350 replies

BIWI · 13/02/2017 07:19

Here's the Spreadsheet for you to confess all!

I hope that you've seen good results, and that they have convinced you that this WOE works - if you weren't already convinced, of course Grin

Here's to a good second week. Hopefully all of you suffering from carb flu will be through that now, and will be feeling much more energised.

Good luck to all Flowers

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StuntNun · 17/02/2017 07:01

Imiss give it time, you aren't supposed to lose weight every day, or even every week. Your body doesn't work that way. When you burn the fat from your fat cells it's replaced with an equivalent weight of water. When a certain amount of water has built up in your fat cells then it will be released all at once and the scales drop. If you notice you're weeing more than usual then that can be a sign of an imminent drop on the scales.

Imissmy0ldusername · 17/02/2017 07:18

Thanks StuntNun - that is reassuring - I'll try to up the movement & exercise over the weekend as well - these last 2 weeks have been about holing myself up & changing habits. The last 2 nights I've woken up to wee really early in my sleep cycle. Yesterday I thought it was the crappy mattress waking me up, today I thought it was because my lower back had seized, but maybe it was because I just needed another wee!

CaptainBraandPants · 17/02/2017 07:43

Morning all. Had another good day yesterday. I made stuffed cabbage casserole from the diet doctor website last night. I was slightly dubious, but it was lovely and very filling. I had to stop DH from going back for seconds Grin
Off to Center Parcs in a while. I've lost 1lb from Monday, but won't be able to weigh now until I get back. I'm still not sure how to play this weekend. I don't want to go completely off the rails, but I will relax a bit as it's a holiday, albeit a mini one.
At least I'm going to very active, what with cycling everywhere and going down the rapids a million times. I tend to come back black and blue!

stealtheatingtunnocks · 17/02/2017 08:44

Oh man.

Had a meeting with work. Turned into 3 large glasses of wine.

I've ruined everything, haven't I?

I've stuck to it really well, not cheated at all. Lots 5lbs last week.

How bad is this, and, what do I do to rescue myself?

Dammit.

Was fun at the time, mind...

Hesdeadjim · 17/02/2017 08:52

Morning :)

My cold has fallen onto my chest so I'm feeling rotten, but so far I've stayed on track food-wise and I've been to the gym twice this week so far. Last nights gym session was a bit of a disaster. I was supposed to do 30 mins cardio, but predictably my cold meant I couldn't get my breathing right so after 15 minutes I had to stop as I couldn't catch my breath.

DP came with me so we did 45 minutes on strength instead of 30 mins to make up for my crappy cardio.

I was feeling down about it this morning, but then I had a sneaky peak at the scales (i started last friday, so technically today is exactly 1 week since I started) and I've lost a further 2lbs since Monday, taking me to a 10lb loss in 1 week! Very very pleased and left the house feeling really motivated :)

Brie stuffed chicken wrapped in bacon for dinner tonight with garlic butter sauce and broccoli :)

Last night was pork chops in a cream and mustard sauce with roast broccoli.

onwards :)

sexymuthafunker · 17/02/2017 10:38

Just joined the spreadsheet (i think?!)
Sorry to ask a stupid question but are you putting the weight in pounds?

SayrraT · 17/02/2017 10:52

yes, weight in lbs

sexymuthafunker · 17/02/2017 11:03

Great thanks for having me :-)

Not done this before - will have to read up on it!
Am confused as to why some people are talking about not eating breakfast or milk - is milk carbs?? Confused

(Leek and mushroom 2 egg omelet and a coffee for breakfast)

SayrraT · 17/02/2017 11:53

Milk contains more carbs and less fat than cream does so it's better to use cream than milk.

Rosie1964 · 17/02/2017 15:02

Can anyone tell me if seeds are allowed on this bootcamp? I make seed crackers with coconut oil and they are good with butter or cheese.
Also interested in any good low carb vegetarian recipes?
Thanks

Imissmy0ldusername · 17/02/2017 15:05

Yogurt on its own for breakfast was actually ok. I had to walk to work this morning, and was gasping for water by the time I got there. Ithought I was hungry at 10, but Ithink I was just thirsty. The leftover moussaka was chuffing ace. I'm only really updating here because I'm milling time waiting for a spreadsheet to finish updating. its been an hour so far, and it's killing all my other programmes so I literally can't do anything other than fanny around on here on my phone Grin

2 hours, then I can commence the weekend chill out. Wahooey!

Imissmy0ldusername · 17/02/2017 15:07

Hi Rosie, I'm afraid seeds are a no-no. BIWI has a long running thread with loads of low carb veggie stuff round here somewhere. I'm on my phone, otherwise I'd put a link on.

Rosie1964 · 17/02/2017 15:31

But seeds are so nutritional and are allowed on Atkins, and nuts are allowed, confused 🤷🏼‍♀️

Rosie1964 · 17/02/2017 15:34

And they're baking in the oven, smelling good!🙁🤔

BursarsFrogs · 17/02/2017 15:44

Thank you for the flowers. Flowers

I've got myself a proper hangover today, after three (big!) glasses of wine last night. Wasn't exactly an ideal coping mechanism, but what's done is done. Drinking plenty of water today and even managed a half-hearted gym session.

Foods today:

Breakfast was some Greek yoghurt with vanilla extract.
Later I cooked DH a birthday fry up, and had a sausage, a fried egg and a fried tomato myself.
Late lunch was leftover broccoli and gorgonzola soup.
Dinner will be ribeye steak and spicy roast veggies (shallots, swede, peppers, maybe a carrot or two).

Resisted trying any of DH's minicake. It looked gorgeous and very chocolatey. I'm feeling a bit deprived really, but that could partly be the crappy hangover, too. Hopefully the fatty steak will help with the deprivation, anyway... :)

Kleptronic · 17/02/2017 16:12

Well if you're doing Atkins Rosie then you're good for the seed crackers. If you're doing Bootcamp, not so much. Up to you, whatever. Smile

SayrraT · 17/02/2017 16:56

rosie nuts are not allowed on BC either. BC with no nuts/seeds is only 2 weeks though, after this if you go onto BClite then nuts and seeds are OK in moderation.

It's all explained in the rules.

SayrraT · 17/02/2017 16:58

BOOT CAMP RULES

  1. Eat three proper meals a day.
"You must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food and you are in ketosis then you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack).

After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder! Eating this way will ensure that your blood sugar levels are kept stable, which will mean that you are much less likely to experience hunger.

A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)"

  1. Avoid processed foods.

Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, eg. Atkins Daybreak bars.

  1. Eat lots of fat.

Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

  1. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food.

This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are 3g carb per 100g or less, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

  1. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited).

Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you are still drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, try to restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!) You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. Total Full Fat is the best

  1. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day.

"The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. This is from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/. Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be:

Your Weight----Litres
140lbs-----2.5
160lbs-----3.0
180lbs-----3.0
200lbs-----3.5
220lbs-----3.5
240lbs-----4.0
260lbs-----4.5
280lbs-----4.5
300lbs-----5.0
320lbs-----5.5
340lbs-----5.5
360lbs-----6.0
380lbs-----6.5
400lbs-----6.5

High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour. However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb diet we can eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it. Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt."

  1. No alcohol.

Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead. If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

  1. No fruit.

Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.

  1. No nuts/seeds.
  1. No sugar or artificial sweeteners.

Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat.

Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.

playmobilpeacock · 17/02/2017 17:01

Hello all

Despite my set back I'm still going and hoping that the weight that comes off, stays off!

B- 2x coffee with cream
L- scrambled eggs and cucumber sticks
D- prawn mayonnaise with salad
S- cheese and anchovies

I've noticed that I only get cravings immediately after I've eaten, even if I'm stuffed. Ive never been someone that has pudding so this is puzzling me.

It's almost as if my body is looking for carbs and wants me to keep eating until it finds some.

I'm persevering with the water and yesterday was the first day I managed my 3ltr target.

SayrraT · 17/02/2017 17:02

BOOTCAMP LITE RULES

  1. Eat when you’re hungry - if you’re not hungry, don’t eat

In Bootcamp, you should have been eating three meals a day. The point of this being to ensure that you got used to eating proper meals, and so that your blood sugar is regulated and stable. Having achieved that, you can now relax this a little bit. If you find you’re not hungry - which often happens, because ketosis suppresses your appetite - then don’t force yourself to eat. But don’t let yourself get so hungry that you make inappropriate choices! Always make sure you have plenty of low carb food to access quickly, if you need to.

  1. Avoid processed food

"Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals – meat/fish/eggs.
You may include processed meats like bacon or (low carb) sausages, smoked salmon, smoked mackerel, gammon - but please don’t have these at every meal or every day. As well as being highly processed they often contain undesirable ingredients, can add unnecessary extra carbs into your diet, and often include sugar."

  1. Eat lots of fat

Eating fat helps to keep you feeling fuller for longer. Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet and has too many carbs), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind

  1. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food

"This is where the bulk of your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

Beware that some of the veg on the allowed list can be surprisingly high in carbs once you make up a portion of it – this is because they are denser, and therefore you tend to use more – compare, for example, 100g of onion with 100g lettuce! Keep your focus on those veg which contain 3g carbs per 100g and use these as the focus of your meals. Use those over 3g per 100g sparingly."

  1. You may eat some dairy

"You should aim to include plenty of butter on this WOE. Fry with it and add it to your vegetables. And if you know that dairy doesn’t impede your weight loss you may eat cheese, but don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. Total Full Fat is the best.

If you’ve been cutting out tea/coffee, you can re-introduce this – but just be careful how much milk you end up drinking. You can end up adding a lot of extra carbs this way."

  1. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day

Even if you’re drinking more tea/coffee than in Bootcamp, this is still a non-negotiable part of this WOE. And the more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. Water helps to flush out the ketones that your body will product – so flushing out the fat. However, drinking this amount of water can affect your electrolyte balance; you need to make sure that you get plenty of sodium and potassium. There is less need to worry about restricting salt if you’re eating a low carb diet. Good sources of potassium are salmon and avocado. You could also consider supplements if you have an issue with this.

  1. You may drink some alcohol

"But restrict this to once or twice a week max. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine. Absolutely no beer/lager, cider, liqueurs, cocktails or full sugar mixers. You can drink spirits with artificial sweeteners, but bear in mind that we are attempting to avoid all things artificial!

Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for your body, and it will use this over and above anything else that is available to it. Therefore, even if you’re following the diet absolutely to the letter, including alcohol can prevent weight loss."

  1. You may eat some fruit

"Strawberries, raspberries, blackberries and rhubarb are all fine. But please – only once a day at the very most, and keep an eye on your portion sizes. Just for information – these are the carb counts:

Rhubarb – 0.8g carbs per 100g (but don’t forget you will need to sweeten this – and not with sugar!)
Blackberries – 4.4g carbs per 100g
Raspberries – 4.6g carbs per 100g
Strawberries – 6g carbs per 100g
Blueberries - 6.4g carbs per 100g (although this is a bit controversial - I have had differing carb counts from various sources - some saying as much as 12g carbs per 100g)"

  1. You may eat some nuts/seeds

"Nuts/seeds can make a good snack. BUT it is incredibly easy to overdo it, and you can end up eating your bodyweight in carbs. As an occasional snack they are great, but keep it occasional and keep the portions to a small handful at most.
Macadamias are not only luscious, but they are very low in carbs. Sainsbury’s sell little bags of roasted, salted Macadamias that work out at around 4g per bag.

Here are some carb counts – BUT – check the back of your packets as I don’t know if these are for raw or roasted nuts:

Brazils 3.1g carbs per 100g
Walnuts 3.3g carbs per 100g
Pistachios 4.6g carbs per 100g
Macadamias 4.8g carbs per 100g
Hazelnuts 4.8g carbs per 100g
Pecans 5.8g carbs per 100g
Almonds 6.9g carbs per 100g
Peanuts 7.1 g carbs per 100g
Cashews 18.1g carbs per 100g"

  1. Avoid artificial sweeteners

The aim of Bootcamp was to help reduce the stranglehold that sugar has on us – and to curb your sweet tooth. But it does make some things difficult, e.g. desserts at a dinner party, and it is undeniable that it can be enjoyable – occasionally – to eat something sweet. However, restrict such goodies. For some people, artificial sweeteners can impede weight loss.

Rosie1964 · 17/02/2017 17:13

Thanks Sayrra, I did bc a while back (Suzymoo) but have alas put the weight back on slowly and now I need to do it again! Didn't know about seeds though. Many thanks

dementedma · 17/02/2017 17:36

Have completely fallen off this WoE after a good first week in terms of weight loss. A really stressful week at work has sent me right back to comfort eating and wine. When you feel shit, a plate of veggies and yet more water just doesn't cut it. Will try and do better over the weekend but am probably back to square one! Sad

BIWI · 17/02/2017 17:41

Thanks @SayrraT for posting the rules again!

I'm a bit alarmed, I have to say, about the amount of cheating and falling off the wagon that's been going on this week.

We're only on week 2!

Serious folks, if you're not going to follow the rules, then it won't work and you won't lose weight.

I can't do it for you if I could I'd be a billionaire

Why sign up if you're not going to do it?

We all have stressful times (sorry dementedma, I'm not singling you out - your post just happens to be before this one Smile), and times when we have no choice but to given an eat the carbs.

But falling into chocolate or wine or biscuits or a plate of pasta when we're feeling frazzled isn't going to help us in the long run.

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wombattoo · 17/02/2017 17:53

Hello everyone.
Sorry for my absence. Real life has got in the way Grin
I have been very good for the last 2 days and am about to have a cheese omelette for my tea Halo
Thanks for posting the rules again Sayrra it is very useful

wombattoo · 17/02/2017 17:54

Oops. Cross post. That will teach me to refresh the thread Blush