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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Week 2 - 2016 Low Carb Bootcamp - our first official weigh-in!

639 replies

BIWI · 25/01/2016 07:25

Morning campers!

Here's the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness

I hope it was a good week, and I hope that those of you who have been suffering from carb flu are starting to feel better. Remember, keep up the electrolytes - sodium, potassium and magnesium. Which means firstly that you have to make sure you're getting plenty of salt - so salt your food during cooking and add salt to cooked food.

For potassium, you could also consider Lo-Salt. Good foods for all electrolytes include salmon, avocado, spinach and full fat (of course!) natural yoghurt.

A note about weighing in

If you're a daily weigher, you have several different options. You can either just record your weight every Monday (or whatever regular day of the week you choose - I am going to start weighing in on a Saturday, because my trainer records my weight as well, to keep me on track!).

Or you can record the lowest weight you achieved in that week

Or you can average your weights and record the average.

Whatever you decide, I hope it's a positive result!

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StuntNun · 27/01/2016 10:16

Mustbemad yes, there is oestrogen stored in body fat so when you start burning body fat (on any type of diet) then it can cause a temporary hormone imbalance. Your body will compensate by reducing production of oestrogen but it might take a couple of cycles. I personally find that I don't get any PMT or period pain when I eat low carb - it would be worth doing it for that reason alone IMO.

Ami nope, no need to exercise. The whole 'eat less move more' idea is a complete nonsense.

Hammer those sausages aren't ideal. It's worth looking for other ones: Black Farmer, Debbie and Andrews, or M&S 95% sausages.

Briss it isn't Bootcamp but the Diet Doctor has a low carb list.

Mookbark that isn't necessarily true for low carb diets which are renowned for preserving muscle mass. Yes if you lose two stone then some of that will be skin, connective tissue, muscles etc. since your body is smaller in terms of volume as well as weight. It's low calorie (but high carb) diets where you lose muscle mass and that's because your body can't access its fat stores properly so it will burn up muscle for energy.

Wand TOTM easily equates to a kilo on for me. Do you have any delayed onset muscle soreness from the exercise? If so that causes water retention.

Gcalgske · 27/01/2016 10:33

Here comes stunt with the science bit! Flowers

knowclue · 27/01/2016 10:36

Quick question- is smoked mackerel allowed in these first two weeks? I have a craving for mackerel pate, Looked online with one site stating zero carb?? Hmm.

And am wondering if I'm drinking too much coffee with cream (3 in the end yesterday), have coffee with milk this morning and it tastes sweet! Lactose I know, but just goes to show going LC reveals the true sweetness in food.

MumOnTheRunCatchingUp · 27/01/2016 10:43

I'm a bit Hmm that people seem glad to be told no need to exercise!!! Why would you not want to?

It certainly gets me through the rough, almost want to cheat, mindset. I think low carbing is more than just a way of eating. Oh well, each to their own

Anyway, day 9 today for me.... Scales this morning say 7 pounds loss in total. I'm working nights, so have to plan ahead for food for the family and food for myself

Used my spiriliser last night to make courgetti. Lovely!

B...eggs with a slice of edam and a coffee
L...salad. Chicken and avocado
D...attempting a cottage pie with swede/celeriac topping and having it with greens if some sort. Then I'm off to work

But first, workout time. Have a good day everyone

Mookbark · 27/01/2016 11:07

Mum some people don't like/ can't/ don't have time to exercise. < shrug> No issue, I think they just want reassurance that this WOE will still work. Fwiw, I have had periods of my life when I've exercised daily and periods when I haven't done anything.

StuntNun · 27/01/2016 11:07

Thanks Gcalgske, I am a real scientitian you know. Wink

Knowclue some people have an issue with dairy, some don't. If you aren't losing weight then dairy is a possible culprit, if the scales are moving in the right direction then it's probably fine.

Yes MumOnTheRun, I should probably point out that I'm saying you don't need to exercise to lose weight. There are a lot of reasons why you should be exercising. From a weight loss point of view alone then your figure will be better if you are reasonably fit, no matter what your current weight is. If you don't exercise then you could reach your target weigh but still not be happy with your appearance.

NigellasGuest · 27/01/2016 11:18

I really really recommend the Shred for quick and easy exercise at home. When I am low carbing seriously like now, I always get motivated to exercise as well. If I'm on a downer and being a carby twat there feels no point to exercise and everything goes to pot. Kind of a vicious circle.I really really want to put an end to the cycle of low carbing, exercising, losing weight followed by binging on carbs, not exercising, piling the lbs back on. I hope this time i can crack it, for life.

The Shred is great because it involves weights and only lasts 20 mins. I do it before showering in the morning, so I don't waste ages of my day re-showering, changing clothes etc., and it fits into my lifestyle. Combined with gardening, walking dog etc., I feel I'm exercising well!

I was reading about Cortisol's affect on the waistline earlier in the thread - this is a real issue for me, being an apple shape to start with, plus having a life where I have waves of badly stressful times. This probably accounts for my cycling between being healthy and unhealthy. I wish there was a hormone to take which undermines cortisol production in the body!

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 27/01/2016 11:54

BIWI - I know, I know, it's a judgement upon me!
Today's visit to the dentist was indeed quick and painless, but Friday's won't be! :( I'll have the thing drilled out and then a ceramic inlay put in what's left of the tooth. 2hour appt! Shock

Dinner was turkey mince thing with courgetti.
Not enough water today - too much running around.

WandOfElderNeverProsper · 27/01/2016 12:10

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ami9 · 27/01/2016 12:56

BIWI Thank you for answering my question.
STUNTNUN love the way you explain the science behind this WOE thanks xx

recyclingbag · 27/01/2016 13:04

I'M FURIOUS!!!

Honestly. I'm only in week 1 but i'm in such a filthy mood. Literally everyone who speaks to me I want to tell to fuck off.

Is this a symptom or am I just a horrible person. The only thing I can liken it to was when I gave up smoking 10 years ago.

Unspeakable rage.

Thanks for listening.

recyclingbag · 27/01/2016 13:06

I feel I should stress that I haven't actually told anyone to fuck off. I just feel like it.

Mookbark · 27/01/2016 13:27

recycling Flowers
It may be the sugar withdrawal? I was certainly irritable at the beginning, whereas I've been in a great mood for the last week or so.
Hope you are in a better mood soon.

BeyondBootcampsAgain · 27/01/2016 13:27

Lunch - pork chop, mushrooms in cream cheese and garlic sauce, broccoli

Also had a pint of salted caramel green tea!! Grin

NaturalBlondeYeahRight · 27/01/2016 13:41

backs away from recycling I always got furious on the 5:2 diet, this one makes me more chilled (once settled)
I didn't post this yesterday as I wanted to see what happened first, on Monday I weighed myself, 2lbs down - fine. Yesterday weighed myself and 10lbs YES 10lbs up!! Moved scales around the room, stayed the same. Bloody hell. They are new and reliable. Went through Monday's food and the only new addition was a 'low carb' homemade soup with marigold bouillon, chicken, some lc veg.
When I looked at the carb count it's 1.5 per 5gr so thought was fine. Looking back on it, there are some nasties in the ingredients- I think it literally made me soak up water like a human sponge!!

Anyway, tons of water and VLC day on Tuesday, today back to normal weight. Panic over and lesson learned.

recyclingbag · 27/01/2016 13:44

Thanks Moonbark

How long does it last do you think? Hopefully I can see it through without resorting to biscuits.

Lunch today was a tin of tuna, mayonnaise, mushrooms. Breakfast was a veggie nutribullet but I might have to give up on those because I'm really struggling to make them palatable without fruit.

BeyondBootcampsAgain · 27/01/2016 14:13

Has anyone tried the 'fudge melts' twinings tea?

MollyRedskirts · 27/01/2016 14:13

It can be, recyclingbag. This isn't my first crack at low-carbing but I was too soon out of cancer treatment the first time I tried and had too much going on mentally to sustain it. I remember wanting to tell everyone they were all fucking twats, with their fucking twatty pasta(!). It's very odd. I hope it passes for you soon backs slowly away.

I'm finding the info about oestrogen very interesting. I had doubly hormonal positive breast cancer, which means it had receptors for oestrogen and progesterone that helped it grow. It was almost five years ago now and just after I had my first son.

I think I'm a good example of how chronic illnesses clump together that may (projecting wildly here and I do need to do more reading about the science of it all) have been caused or contributed to by poor diet. I'm vitamin D deficient and pre-diabetic with impaired glucose tolerance and all those things, including my type of breast cancer, are linked to inflammation. It's interesting.

I did a namechange for Bootcamp, so I've totally outed myself now to someone who knows me and is also doing Bootcamp.

TomHaverford · 27/01/2016 14:19

My weighing in day is on friday and have been trying not to weigh until then, however i broke this morning and stepped on them and have only lost 1.5lbs. I know the weightloss isnt linear but I have loads to loose and was excited seeing how well everyone else has done!

Still two days to go but i feel a bit deflated, silly i know.

Gcalgske · 27/01/2016 14:19

mum I had a traumatic birth three years ago that left me with permanent lower back damage (despite surgery), pelvic instability and PTSD. I do what I can (Pilates/weights/walking) but it's a struggle at my size / pain levels and yeah I am relieved I can lose weight without exercise. The smaller I get the easier it will be I hope? The most hard core keto/ low carbers (Fatheads) I know are either elite athlete standard or zero exercise folks - it's seems to be quite a divisive issue in the low carb world.

RomiiRoo · 27/01/2016 14:20

Mumontherun, the reason I was pleased I lost weight on this WOE was because I am a single parent, with two children and no family support. I work full time. My DS is high needs, no special needs diagnosis.

That said, looking after two children, cleaning, ironing, making beds, walking to school, taking the kids to the park, the pool, round the shops etc IS exercise. It is not a workout like I used to do in the gym, but I would be very surprised if people on here don't do ANY exercise.

The not doing very much at all for me recently was a result of clinical depression and only being able to do physically a fraction of what I previously could. A 'normal' diet works on calories in being less than calories expended; this one also has benefits for people who struggle with expending energy for whatever reason.

That said, it is sunny here and I went for a walk today, not for weight reasons but for mental wellbeing. It is nice to do that; I used to equate exercise to how many calories I needed to burn, which makes it a chore, more than anything else.

NigellasGuest · 27/01/2016 14:23

Just read the ingredients of my vanilla extract and it contains sugar! AAAAGGGHHHH! Angry

Never occurred to me that it had sugar because it's an expensive one in a brown bottle. Grrrrr

RomiiRoo · 27/01/2016 14:24

That was about being glad exercise did not have to be involved ... Brain fog.

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 27/01/2016 14:28

Not everyone enjoys or is able to do exercise!
While I am in no way as incapacitated as Gcalgske, I find it quite difficult to find an exercise that works for me without setting off my sciatica, or my residual SPD from the last pg. It's very hilly where I live, so cycling is hard (and made even harder by some wanker stealing my bike!) and even walking can be a struggle, when the pavements are uneven and there's a lot of uphill (Wonky pelvis does struggle with both of those!)
I would love to enjoy it all the way I used to, when I lived somewhere flat and didn't have an unstable pelvis. When DS2 is at school, I'll be able to do more - but he's only 3 and can't go for another 2 years here, so in the meantime, a WOE that allows me to lose weight without the need for exercise is great!

NigellasGuest · 27/01/2016 14:53

After googling for recommended brands of vanilla extract I came across this, which tells you how to make your own! I'm going to give it a go - although it has to steep for 6 weeks so I will still need to buy some in the meantime (can't live without my Total, cream & vanilla essence)!

simplysugarandglutenfree.com/homemade-sugar-free-alcohol-free-vanilla-extract/