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Adjourned, dismissed or full hearing?

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user1499775533 · 06/10/2019 18:52

I was due to attend the Family court with my exes mother on the 11th of September but unfortunately my grandmother suffered a major stroke on the 5th of September so understandably I didn’t attend as I have more important things on my mind. I emailed the court explaining and giving my grandmothers name and ward number but have heard nothing since! Cafcass did say that any contact with my baby would have to be arranged between my exes mum and myself but they also suggested sticking to the no contact that the police had put in place to prevent her abuse and harassment. My other threads explain it all. I also recieved no safegaurding letter from cafcass prior to the court date. I’m just wondering if the court has thrown it out seen as she’s never seen my baby and in legal terms is no relation. I did email the judge when I first received the papers asking for him to change their mind based on all of the facts so unsure if this has been accepted. Also on the same application for my baby she’d asked for a whole day with my elder Daughter who she sees for 2 hours a month with her son then she asked for a separate contact order with my 1 year old who she has never seen!!! I’m hoping a court can see her games and see the pattern that’s forming and hopefully put an end to it. Any advice would be appreciated.

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user1499775533 · 15/10/2019 10:20

Okay guys so abit of an update and maybe some advice. I am due in court this Monday for a Directions hearing. Will this be for the permission of my baby and the full day or 4 hours she’s asking for with my elder child? And what are the chances of her gaining permission.

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LIZS · 15/10/2019 11:06

You will need to get the papers from the court, no one here can be that specific.

Joe2019 · 15/10/2019 11:13

Its a directions hearing. To discuss next steps and a timeline for filing paperwork in support of your case.

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user1499775533 · 15/10/2019 11:17

The court said it’s like a first hearing. Will the lay justices decide on this day if permission will go through or not?

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user1499775533 · 15/10/2019 11:55

Thank you. It is defo a first hearing so the permission will be decided on that day. Now I’m worrying wondering if permission will be given 🤔

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FenellaVelour · 15/10/2019 16:33

They may have already given permission. You won’t know until you specifically ask the court.
If they have, then this hearing will be to set down directions for filing statements and evidence in support of your position.

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user1499775533 · 15/10/2019 17:39

It says on the letter that the court will determine the issue of permission at the next hearing?? Do you think there’s a good chance she would gain this even though she hasn’t met my baby so there’s been no contact to regain? I’m literally worried sick.

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user1499775533 · 15/10/2019 17:40

Or does this mean they’ve already given permission and will just fill me in on the day? I feel like a lamb going to slaughter...,again 😭😭

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whitershadeofpale · 15/10/2019 18:02

Why do you keep coming on here and asking questions no one can know the answers to instead of picking up the phone and asking the fucking court yourself?!

No one else can sort out this mess you’ve created and you’re constantly making it worse for yourself and your children.

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user1499775533 · 15/10/2019 18:10

I’ve recieved a letter from the court and spoken to the court. I’m just asking what the likelihood of permission going through would be. I thought chat forums are for talking and getting other people’s views.

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user1499775533 · 15/10/2019 18:11

There is definitely no need to be so rude!!

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myrtleWilson · 15/10/2019 18:11

But you don't listen to any other views do you? Not once on any of your threads have I seen you taken on board a view that wasn't your own.

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user1499775533 · 15/10/2019 18:15

I’m asking now for other people’s views that maybe are legally trained and could help abit more. These are the views that interest me, not the put downs and insults.

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user1499775533 · 15/10/2019 18:43

I don’t come on here to argue or offend anyone. Everyone’s entitled to their say, I understand that but at the moment life is crap enough with everything that’s going on, I’m not looking for a sympathy vote because I admit I’ve made mistakes like most of us have and probably should of dragged myself to court for the hearing, but I didn’t but I will be attending the next one and would just appreciate any legal advice so I know what I’m walking into or more to the point but I could be lead into without knowing. I cannot afford a solicitor, Christmas is fast approaching and I have kids to support. But the person in control of this will know this too so now I have to go to court again unrepresented not having a clue what I could be agreeing to or not agreeing to.

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user1499775533 · 15/10/2019 18:45

It’s not like I’m going to a small claims court to negotiate, these are my children 😓😓😓😓😓

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Muddledupme · 15/10/2019 19:05

I don't know anything about law other than the fact that you can't write a letter mid court case saying" look I'm too busy to be dealing with this shit as I've got a lot going on and I think the whole thing is ridiculous " and to expect them to drop the case as they don't want to add to your stress. It's a lovely notion but utterly bonkers. Can you imagine the sacks of mail from criminals saying that theyre not attending as they don't fancy a conviction?

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user1499775533 · 15/10/2019 19:11

I get where you’re coming from. It wasn’t nothing like that though, I did email the court explaining what happened, at that point in my life I was as in no fit state to be negotiating over my children. I know I should of forced myself to go but I would rather attend with a clear head than being an emotional wreck, that would go in her favour.

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Joe2019 · 15/10/2019 19:14

You said It says on the letter that the court will determine the issue of permission at the next hearing??

That means they will decide regarding permission at the next hearing.

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user1499775533 · 15/10/2019 19:17

Yes that what it says. I’m just upset over it all because I can’t hand my baby over to a stranger not knowing what she’s doing and who she’s around. It also says on the letter that my ex needs to comply with cafcass as he hasn’t responded but cafcass said because he has no PR it made no difference if they spoke to him or not but they were going to try because his mother put his name down on the application!!

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Joe2019 · 15/10/2019 19:27

According to an earlier post you have already been provided with the answer. This is legal not aibu, or chat. Don't keep asking the same question.

I have been informed an order for my baby wouldn’t be possible. And the police actually suggested asking for a contact centre for my elder daughter because there is a PIN in place so we would not be able to have any form of contact now and if she does then she’ll be arrested.

myrtleWilson · 15/10/2019 19:30

Where was your grandmother on the 11th OP - were you providing sole care for her and did you evidence this in your letter to the court?

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user1499775533 · 15/10/2019 19:33

I was sat by her bedside not knowing if she would live or die. I didn’t turn up and I probably should have, but I don’t see how this could effect the court granting permission to make an order over a baby that she has never seen.

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user1499775533 · 15/10/2019 19:34

I double doubt and worry constantly. Would be too easy for the other person to not go to court and if tried to resolve matters, seeing me like this is far more fun.

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myrtleWilson · 15/10/2019 19:34

But where was she - in hospital or at home? If she was at home and you were providing sole care then asking for an adjournment may well have been considered by the court...