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Terrible Scenes At Heaton Park Synagogue

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VillaDiodati · 02/10/2025 11:31

Absolutely shocking attack at the Heaton Park Synagogue in Crumpsall North Manchester. My heart goes out to all those hurt and affected by this terrible atrocity.

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lisalisa · 02/10/2025 23:22

miraxxx · 02/10/2025 23:21

Heartbreaking to hear these stories.

Thank you .
it all informs our thinking now about how long we stay here and at what point we should see the writing on the wall and get out

miraxxx · 02/10/2025 23:23

nomas · 02/10/2025 23:16

You reveal so much of yourself on this thread.

Dont be a little parrot now Nomas. It's boring.

MyHeartyCoralSnail · 02/10/2025 23:24

Reading about Jewish family preparing to flee my (and their) country makes me feel so so ashamed. I’ve read with horror the history of the Jewish people being exiled and fleeing countries, I never ever thought I would live in a country where Jews would feel they needed to flee. How can we have let it get to this point? How can we not have learned from history. How can people, who consider themselves kind and liberal be taking part in activities intimidating and creating fear amongst our Jewish communities, to the point they feel they need to leave the country. I’m so ashamed, I’m not going to be complicit in yet another persecution and exile of Jews - this is horrific.

nomas · 02/10/2025 23:25

miraxxx · 02/10/2025 23:23

Dont be a little parrot now Nomas. It's boring.

Boring it may be to you, but conflating all Muslims with terrorists is racist.

lisalisa · 02/10/2025 23:25

NoFutureHere · 02/10/2025 23:22

I have never wanted to move to Israel but there is no future here for Jews.

This happened ten minutes away from me.

We have been increasingly unsafe for the last 2 years. I doubted myself because of all the minimising and denying and dismissing but as others have said I am also very conscious of the importance of knowing when to leave.

I truly hope I am wrong and things change but I have a metaphorical foot out of the door.

I’m sorry @NoFutureHere but I’m also glad you’re thinking of your own safety too xxxx

NotsoLovinLefties · 02/10/2025 23:25

clipboardz · 02/10/2025 23:20

Unfortunately our government consider you and the rest of the population to be acceptable collateral damage for their virtue signalling over immigration and our 'highly successful' (🙄) multicultural society.

And what happens if all the jewish people leave. Does that hate dissipate?

No, it comes for us instead.

Time for me and the silent majority to not be so silent anymore.

ArabellaSaurus · 02/10/2025 23:29

lisalisa · 02/10/2025 23:22

Thank you .
it all informs our thinking now about how long we stay here and at what point we should see the writing on the wall and get out

I'm so sorry. My thoughts are with you.

miraxxx · 02/10/2025 23:30

clipboardz · 02/10/2025 23:22

Someone decent would have left saying, not today.

It's so transparent

I agree and I am going to stop engaging with the creature now.

ThisOldThang · 02/10/2025 23:31

NotsoLovinLefties · 02/10/2025 23:25

No, it comes for us instead.

Time for me and the silent majority to not be so silent anymore.

There's just no political will to face up to reality. We've allowed a cancer to grow in our society and now there's no way to fix it without extremely tough and robust action. Our politicians have their heads in the sand.

I dispair for our future.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 02/10/2025 23:33

PraisebetoGod · 02/10/2025 22:20

Oh we notice. But people are scared to call it out. People like nomas and Goinfor who try to silence the truth.

Yes WE SEE THEM.

GoInFor · 02/10/2025 23:35

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 02/10/2025 23:15

He came to this country at the age of 6 and was granted citizenship in 2006.So yes we are importing murderers or do you want to just cover that fact up.

Nope, I asked for evidence of the truth. The information shared about the killer wasn't known/hadn't been released at the time.

I asked for evidence of this being true.

nomas · 02/10/2025 23:37

ThisOldThang · 02/10/2025 23:12

Unfortunately our government consider you and the rest of the population to be acceptable collateral damage for their virtue signalling over immigration and our 'highly successful' (🙄) multicultural society.

You do get that she is also an immigrant and part of our multicultural society, right? She literally says she’s an immigrant.

clipboardz · 02/10/2025 23:38

I agree and I am going to stop engaging with the creature now

Just ignore it

nomas · 02/10/2025 23:44

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IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 02/10/2025 23:44

nomas · 02/10/2025 22:40

I think it’s dangerous if we start presenting assumptions as facts, as Polly did.

I’m not blind to hatred, I believe anti-Semitism is on the rise and today was a culmination.

But I don’t think you can counter anti-Semitism with Islamaphobia.

He was an Islamist terroist,how the fuck is that Islamophobia unless trying to silence what someone is.

nomas · 02/10/2025 23:44

clipboardz · 02/10/2025 23:38

I agree and I am going to stop engaging with the creature now

Just ignore it

I suppose it’s easier to ignore those who show you a mirror.

nomas · 02/10/2025 23:46

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 02/10/2025 23:44

He was an Islamist terroist,how the fuck is that Islamophobia unless trying to silence what someone is.

The Islamophobia was by the people upthread saying baseless lies that Muslims in the streets outside the synagogue were celebrating the attack.

YellowDaze · 02/10/2025 23:49

lisalisa · 02/10/2025 22:51

@EasternStandard thank you . However as a British Jew I can tell you first hand the following :
In the 1970s when I grew up there was no antisemitism that I experienced . I went to a state school with people of all races and religions and had friends everywhere . I felt wanted , welcomed , equal and as if my religion didn’t matter , it was part of me but not the thing that defined me , identified me and certainly not the thing that put me at risk , made me fearful or was something to hide .

This slowly but palpably eroded over the years from about 2000 onwards .
At work I experienced pure antisemitism from a client - needless to say I declined further work from her . My daughter was attacked physically walking home from a Friday night Shabbat meal in our local area . And now this . My son in laws friend attacked and stabbed for no reason other than that he was a Jew praying in synagogue .

Most Jews - and I do mean most - are planning - however far in the future or however vaguely - a way out now from Britain . We understand certainly that there’s no future for our children here , if not for ourselves .

As a child my one insecurity was the holocaust . I was born in 1968 which was just over 20 years since the holocaust . I used to ask my father from a young age - I don’t remember exactly when - but it would have been about 9 or 10 - to confirm that if things ever got bad here we’d leave at the first opportunity. He always reassured me that we would even though in around 1978 this was a very safe time for us Jews here and there was nothing to worry about .

we discussed what the signs were that we’d leave and what those factors would be . And now I have that responsibility to my elderly mother and my children . To never ever ever make the same mistake of complacency and thinking this will never happen again . It’s true that the anti Semitism isn’t coming from the government - yet - but the way things are going here with a less and less supportive and more and more hostile environment around us it’s not prudent to wait .

That is truly heartbreak to read. I'm so sorry. You and the Jewish community have been so let down. Today has sickened me beyond words. For all of us who stand with our Jewish neighbours, we must DO something : write to your mp, lobby parliament, stage our own solidarity marches, push back on every single anti Semitic remark we hear. the Jewish community is tiny, just 0.2% of the population, they need our support. There is strength in numbers.

ThisOldThang · 02/10/2025 23:49

nomas · 02/10/2025 23:37

You do get that she is also an immigrant and part of our multicultural society, right? She literally says she’s an immigrant.

I doubt her first name is Jihad.

There are immigrants that contribute to the UK and there are those that bring death and terror. I can't think of a single Jewish terror attack in any nation. Whereas...

MyHeartyCoralSnail · 02/10/2025 23:50

NotsoLovinLefties · 02/10/2025 23:25

No, it comes for us instead.

Time for me and the silent majority to not be so silent anymore.

Exactly, next thing you know I’ll be imprisoned for my occult book collection..why oh why can’t people look at history and learn? Is it some kind of arrogance which makes people think “oh that would never be us”?

We need swift, decisive action to cut out the cancer that has been allowed to linger and grow in our society. Anyone who does not support Britain should be shipped out

nomas · 02/10/2025 23:53

ThisOldThang · 02/10/2025 23:49

I doubt her first name is Jihad.

There are immigrants that contribute to the UK and there are those that bring death and terror. I can't think of a single Jewish terror attack in any nation. Whereas...

So Muslim immigrants bad, Jewish immigrants good?

And you think you’re a moral person? Seriously?

NotsoLovinLefties · 02/10/2025 23:53

ThisOldThang · 02/10/2025 23:49

I doubt her first name is Jihad.

There are immigrants that contribute to the UK and there are those that bring death and terror. I can't think of a single Jewish terror attack in any nation. Whereas...

Exactly! Not all immigrants are equal.

Humdingerydoo · 02/10/2025 23:54

Wishing long life to those who lost their loved ones in today's horrific terrorist attack 💔

nomas · 02/10/2025 23:54

hamstersarse · 02/10/2025 22:53

Why are you defending people celebrating murder?

I suppose it’s not too different to seeing Palestinians celebrating the dead Jews on October 7th being paraded through the streets so….business as usual

I guess you missed the Israelis mocking the starving Palestinians in their TikTok videos.

nomas · 02/10/2025 23:55

Police confirmed he was wearing a fake suicide vest. Who does that?! He may have been schizophrenic or had other mental health issues, like Axel Rudakubana.

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