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Terrible Scenes At Heaton Park Synagogue

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VillaDiodati · 02/10/2025 11:31

Absolutely shocking attack at the Heaton Park Synagogue in Crumpsall North Manchester. My heart goes out to all those hurt and affected by this terrible atrocity.

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nomas · 02/10/2025 22:40

miraxxx · 02/10/2025 22:36

I dont know but going by past experience, I consider them not improbable. The very act of marching today is itself a kind of victory parade but you are determined to be blind to hatred.

I think it’s dangerous if we start presenting assumptions as facts, as Polly did.

I’m not blind to hatred, I believe anti-Semitism is on the rise and today was a culmination.

But I don’t think you can counter anti-Semitism with Islamaphobia.

miraxxx · 02/10/2025 22:41

PandoraSocks · 02/10/2025 22:36

This sort of rhetoric is also vile.

I despair.

It is not rhetoric but recent history, 1979. The lefties are riding a tiger that has already fed on previous generations of lefties. Good luck!

Beachtastic · 02/10/2025 22:41

nomas · 02/10/2025 22:30

So where are these celebrations?

Well, I'm not sure what's going on in London right now, but it does look rather like a celebration, doesn't it...?

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nomas · 02/10/2025 22:41

PollyPaintsFlowers · 02/10/2025 22:38

We've been through this. Sadly, there's none so blind as those who refuse to see

You say it’s proven but have no proof.

clipboardz · 02/10/2025 22:42

Which then takes us back round to exactly why Israel exists.

Quite

PollyPaintsFlowers · 02/10/2025 22:42

It feels like Lord of the Rings when the elves leave Middle Earth for far off plains as Sauron, orcs and evil take over, taking all their culture and learning with them. Meanwhile men and hobbits mourn their loss and talk about how the land is so much poorer without them

Jujujudo · 02/10/2025 22:42

PropertyD · 02/10/2025 22:14

What happened to him that made him hate the Jewish people so much. Others have been arrested too. Why are they walking amongst us and no one notices? Is it that we do but no one likes to call it out.

Jews have been trying to tell you for years! Nobody listens. You can’t mention it because it hurts feelings or whatever. Jews are scared.. we’ve been gaslit into believing we are imagining it.

clipboardz · 02/10/2025 22:43

@Beachtastic that is disgusting, i'm actually ashamed.

andgoodnessknows · 02/10/2025 22:43

hamstersarse · 02/10/2025 22:37

There was a strange pro Palestine/ anti Israel protest where I live today, strange because they just baracaded themselves into their place of work and refused to open up,

I’m coming to the conclusion these people do want death to Jews, they somehow have twisted their mind to believe they deserve it. And all the while they’ve sided with a death cult. I get the feeling that many people don’t believe in Jihad, think it’s some sort of misinformation or exaggeration, that people couldn’t really be like that

I’d be so embarrassed to have flown a Palestine flag after today’s events, on British soil.

I agree on all and the last point too - and to those idiots who sanctimoniously chant along to ‘globalise the intifada’, they’ve got what they wanted today. This is what globalising the intifada means. And while it starts with Jews, it doesn’t end there.

nomas · 02/10/2025 22:43

Beachtastic · 02/10/2025 22:41

Well, I'm not sure what's going on in London right now, but it does look rather like a celebration, doesn't it...?

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I’ve not been on any marches, but haven’t these marches been constant? I hear people complain that they’re a weekly occurence.

PandoraSocks · 02/10/2025 22:45

hamstersarse · 02/10/2025 22:39

It’s not ‘rhetoric’ it’s fact.
Are you under the impression that islamists put their pronouns in their bio?

Honestly, I don't have the heart for a fight with you or anyone else tonight. It seems petty and pointless after the horror of today and achieves nothing.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 02/10/2025 22:45

nomas · 02/10/2025 21:00

the whole Gaza situation was orchestrated to stir up anti Israel sentiments - being against Israel is anti semitism

That’s just not true.

This view can’t be normalised and needs to be pushed back on every time.

That is absolutely true and I’m disgusted that you are showing your face continually on this thread with your dismissiveness.

PropertyD · 02/10/2025 22:45

New reporting say others arrested are in their 30’s and a women of 60.

Why on earth was that march allowed in Manchester on the same day. We really have lost the plot.

hamstersarse · 02/10/2025 22:45

nomas · 02/10/2025 22:43

I’ve not been on any marches, but haven’t these marches been constant? I hear people complain that they’re a weekly occurence.

Step into reality.
What do you think they are possibly so happy about?

EsmaCannonball · 02/10/2025 22:45

Humdingerydoo · 02/10/2025 20:38

There are fireworks going off here tonight. There were also fireworks here on October 7th 2023. It's so utterly depressing.

Same. And before anyone says it could be anyone letting off fireworks, I can tell exactly where these ones are being set off.

When your parents call you Jihad it certainly speaks to a sinister worldview and to what purpose you are being raised. Something has to be done about a hostile death cult being allowed to flourish in the UK. Who does it benefit?

clipboardz · 02/10/2025 22:46

Jews have been trying to tell you for years! Nobody listens. You can’t mention it because it hurts feelings or whatever. Jews are scared.. we’ve been gaslit into believing we are imagining it.

You are exaggerating obviously & then when something like this happens it's completely minimised.

miraxxx · 02/10/2025 22:49

clipboardz · 02/10/2025 22:43

@Beachtastic that is disgusting, i'm actually ashamed.

Why should you be ashamed when Nomas and friends are not?

Terracottafarmers · 02/10/2025 22:49

Ah! an Islamic terrorist did this, want to say I'm surprised but I'm not. Also apparently he arrived in the UK from Syria as an asylum seeker with his parents, I think I read. That's not going to go down well... I can't even begin to imagine how awful it must've been. I didn't even realise anti-semitism was a thing in the UK. I live near a synagogue so it hits close to home

EasternStandard · 02/10/2025 22:49

Jujujudo · 02/10/2025 22:42

Jews have been trying to tell you for years! Nobody listens. You can’t mention it because it hurts feelings or whatever. Jews are scared.. we’ve been gaslit into believing we are imagining it.

Ik and I also know British Jews won’t do anything near what they have put on them. It’s more likely they’ll hide and fear repercussions, and I’m so sorry and sad that’s the case.

nomas · 02/10/2025 22:49

hamstersarse · 02/10/2025 22:45

Step into reality.
What do you think they are possibly so happy about?

How is the atmosphere different to this march last month?

https://youtube.com/shorts/YAZnl_8fBQQ?si=MCJdl8D_ncaPssAb

HansHolbein · 02/10/2025 22:50

I can’t say what I really want to say because I’ll be banned, or sent to prison for a couple of years, so I’ll just say that I’m thinking of my fellow Jews today.

Hate to say it, but I’m not surprised and I’ve felt for a while that we were overdue another terrorist attack.

Jew hatred is always there, always simmering away in the background… then it gains traction, nobody does anything to stop it, then Jews die. Story as old as time.

reginaldronnierara · 02/10/2025 22:51

nomas · 02/10/2025 22:49

How is the atmosphere different to this march last month?

https://youtube.com/shorts/YAZnl_8fBQQ?si=MCJdl8D_ncaPssAb

Aren't the marches usually on a Saturday?

Is it Saturday today?

The behaviour of thes people ^ is un British.

reginaldronnierara · 02/10/2025 22:51

And indecent.

lisalisa · 02/10/2025 22:51

@EasternStandard thank you . However as a British Jew I can tell you first hand the following :
In the 1970s when I grew up there was no antisemitism that I experienced . I went to a state school with people of all races and religions and had friends everywhere . I felt wanted , welcomed , equal and as if my religion didn’t matter , it was part of me but not the thing that defined me , identified me and certainly not the thing that put me at risk , made me fearful or was something to hide .

This slowly but palpably eroded over the years from about 2000 onwards .
At work I experienced pure antisemitism from a client - needless to say I declined further work from her . My daughter was attacked physically walking home from a Friday night Shabbat meal in our local area . And now this . My son in laws friend attacked and stabbed for no reason other than that he was a Jew praying in synagogue .

Most Jews - and I do mean most - are planning - however far in the future or however vaguely - a way out now from Britain . We understand certainly that there’s no future for our children here , if not for ourselves .

As a child my one insecurity was the holocaust . I was born in 1968 which was just over 20 years since the holocaust . I used to ask my father from a young age - I don’t remember exactly when - but it would have been about 9 or 10 - to confirm that if things ever got bad here we’d leave at the first opportunity. He always reassured me that we would even though in around 1978 this was a very safe time for us Jews here and there was nothing to worry about .

we discussed what the signs were that we’d leave and what those factors would be . And now I have that responsibility to my elderly mother and my children . To never ever ever make the same mistake of complacency and thinking this will never happen again . It’s true that the anti Semitism isn’t coming from the government - yet - but the way things are going here with a less and less supportive and more and more hostile environment around us it’s not prudent to wait .

nomas · 02/10/2025 22:52

miraxxx · 02/10/2025 22:49

Why should you be ashamed when Nomas and friends are not?

Ashamed of what? No one is celebrating? The protests have been going on for 2 years. I think if they suddenly stopped protesting, they would be accused of being anti-Semitic all along.

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