Terrible Scenes At Heaton Park Synagogue

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Absolutely shocking attack at the Heaton Park Synagogue in Crumpsall North Manchester. My heart goes out to all those hurt and affected by this terrible atrocity.

Not to mention the “significant number” who breached the march conditions and attacked police.

Your dh is very insightful and that’s right - the trick is knowing when to leave or rather when not to stay .
some of my friends came to Britain from Iraq ( Jews so they fled and were persecuted). They used to keep hundreds of pounds under their mattress when they first moved to the uk because …. Well …. You never know when you might need to flee . I could not undertake this at all until now and used to view them as poor frightened people who’d only been here in safety for a few years and that they’d grow out of it in years to come . Now I understand .

Jews have always been wandering from country to country throughout our history . Britain has been a good home - our Rabbis call it a malchus shel chesed which basically translated as a good king kingdom .

but , all good things must come to a close for Jews and 150 years roughly of our stay in the uk will soon come to a close .

Blessings, peace and prosperity to Israel and all Jews. How I wish that this once great country will rise again and become completely safe for many millions of Jews to live and flourish.

I have a lot of Jewish friends. It's disgusting the way that our government has thrown them to the wolves to pacify Mr Jihad and his ilk.

Couldn't even bring himself to say a society where Jewish people can practice their faith in peace, could he?
Had to all-faiths it.

Sorry, actually so angry at at the mealy-mouthed hypocrisy of Jezza and co as if they didn't help create the conditions that led to this.

Just thinking about the other Jewish posters on here talking about always having a backup plan. I have spent a decent amount of time in my life thinking about that. How would I know? Would I be brave enough?

The Holocaust books I read vicariously as a teenager were filled with those moments - one sister bravely ran to America while the rest of the family stayed in Berlin. Anne Frank, etc. My family also spent a lot of time talking about what to look for and what to have in place.

What’s totally insane is that I’m actually an immigrant here in the UK - my family immigrated 20 years ago ‘from’ the states and I had been sure for years that I had found the best and safest option for us. And I’m more unsure now than ever. I don’t think going back is the answer but I am really not sure what is.

If you read my posts, I am asking for the truth.

There is too much hatred caused by lies, misinformation, assumptions and spin. The truth is vital.

I asked for evidence that statements made by you and others are true.

Silence.

You reveal so much of yourself on this thread. I applaud the studious lack of self awareness. Someone decent would would have left saying, not today.

Yes indeed.

I know alot of now adults who came to the UK on the kinder transports. I recall one of them reminiscing how when he left his mother she gave him a sandwich and said he must always carry a sandwich with him because he won't know if he can eat tomorrow. He was telling this story and we all smiled sadly and someone asked casually, in acknowledgment of a good story told; 'are you carrying one now?'. He reached into his little bag and pulled out a carefully wrapped fresh sandwich.

Unfortunately our government consider you and the rest of the population to be acceptable collateral damage for their virtue signalling over immigration and our 'highly successful' (🙄) multicultural society.

Important vote bank and politicians are always crooked and corrupt little beasts.

You're not alone, Jewish friends, in having thoughts of leaving the UK. The satanic blood lust of your enemy will not be satisfied with slaughtering you; we'll be next. Unless the general political and demographic direction taken by the UK over the last 30 years is halted and completely reversed very soon, we will be the ones leaving in rubber boats.

That wasn’t what was asked though, was it? If she had asked me should people have marched today, I would have said no.

Instead I was asked if they look happy, and no, I don’t think they look happy.

He came to this country at the age of 6 and was granted citizenship in 2006.So yes we are importing murderers or do you want to just cover that fact up.

You reveal so much of yourself on this thread.

You reveal so much of yourself on this thread.

Some of the worst violence on October 7th was done by ordinary Gazans. Gangs of them - men, women and children - literally lynched young people at the Nova festival. If they didn't have guns they grabbed hammers and spanners and sticks and used them to beat people to death. I do not understand the mentality of people who want us to become more like the Palestinians and less like the Israelis.

That’s so sad . I’m sorry .
my husbands father came out of the camps and died at 52 from a virulent form of dementia due to the work he’d been forced to do in the mines ( it was the dust he’d inhaled that caused it ). He was German and incarcerated as a teen . He was rescued by the Russians from
a pile of dead bodies where he’d been left for dead .
His sister was a child and was taken in a children’s aktion one day . My husband’s father came home and asked where Tova was to be told tearfully by his mother that she’d been taken ( rounded up in the city square with other children ). Never seen again .
my husbands fathers grave has next to it a little heart memorial to Tova aged 7. A flower that never got to bloom

Good questions to ask. I hope all decent British people are asking these questions and more importantly, not shying away from the answer.

Unfortunately our government consider you and the rest of the population to be acceptable collateral damage for their virtue signalling over immigration and our 'highly successful' (🙄) multicultural society.

And what happens if all the jewish people leave. Does that hate dissipate?

Heartbreaking to hear these stories.

That’s what I think too . Isn’t there a poem that starts “ first they came for the Jews but I didn’t speak out because I’m not a Jew….”. It ends with “ then they came for me but there wasn’t anyone left to speak out for me “.

He was 35, so he was 16 when he arrived in Britain. He might have lied about his age to abuse the system, though.

I have never wanted to move to Israel but there is no future here for Jews.

This happened ten minutes away from me.

We have been increasingly unsafe for the last 2 years. I doubted myself because of all the minimising and denying and dismissing but as others have said I am also very conscious of the importance of knowing when to leave.

I truly hope I am wrong and things change but I have a metaphorical foot out of the door.

Someone decent would have left saying, not today.

It's so transparent