Twelve year old rioter Mum gone to ibiza rather than court

[Daltonbear1]

https://inews.co.uk/news/boy-no-sentence-riots-southport-mum-ibiza-3256439

Like who does that they know that their son is going to court but Decides, it's a good time to go and go party at Ibiza. Like what the hell? The judge seems to be very shocked That a parent would do that. So now they have to witholdthe sentencing for when she gets back
You see, I think when you have a twelve-year-old doing what they Ve just done. It's the parents that really need to be sentenced as well. Because potentially, that would stop the children because the parents would actually start discipline the kids. But it just shows that some of these children really. Have such a c* start to life. How are they meant to be in a society that needs people to behave

Yes I knew I’d read this somewhere. I think it’s this kid. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13739601/UK-riots-Britain-worst-rioter-grandmother-interview.html

But there is a cycle of shittiness in some families that takes up huge resource and we never pull out all the stops to try to change it.

That's probably true about the cycle, but what, concretely, would you like to see happen?

Have a look at the recent Harehills rioting, which started when the local community decided they didn't like social workers taking a baby into care for their own protection. How will your local sink estate react when someone's kids are taken into foster care because their parents skipped one too many of their "How not to be a scrote" classes? And where are the tens of thousands of extra foster parents going to come from?

And what about his dad? Does the child not need his father in this life? I can guarantee that if dad went abroad instead of attending the sentencing, no one would bat an eyelid.

THIS. Absolutely sick to death of the double standards when it comes to mothers and fathers in this country.

That. I love the way that people are avoiding criticising the mother and looking for a father to blame instead.

A mother who fucks off to Ibiza instead of supporting her 12 year old son in court, sounds like the sort of person who probably doesn't even know who the dad is.

She's a terrible person. Let's not get distracted from that.

If the mother doesn't want to attend court, I don't see what law can be used to make her? The child had his uncle so that's the appropriate adult part covered. So all putting the sentencing back has done is drag it out longer for the child. I'm willing to bet the holiday wasn't a coincidence and she went abroad to remove herself from the situation until it was over. Sticking her head in the sand kind of thing. She's probably not going to show up to the next sentencing date either.

First week back at school is a strange comment. The child isn't in Ibiza on holiday so it's irrelevant. Plenty of secondary school DC get themselves to and from school with no parental involvement beyond providing the bus fares. She's obviously not mother of the year so I doubt she's interested in supporting him at school or with homework whether she's there or not.

@Whatineed I can’t imagine he’s a regular school attendee, can you

If they're was a father in his life, given how furious the judge was, I'm pretty sure she'd have eviscerated him, too.

Poor kid

True, but what, concretely, would you like to see happen?

Confiscate their passports and stop their benefits, for starters.

If the father is in prison then he is more to blame than the mother who has gone on holiday IMO. At least she's on holiday and not banged up for being a criminal and the judge should have put him on blast too, more so than the mother.

Well it sounds like his dad is in prison and it's likely the judge knows that. Just because nothing has been reported about the judge mentioning the dad doesn't mean they haven't

Regardless of where the father is you don't fuck off to ibiza when your sons in court for sentencing . No wonder the kids like he is

What if he’s dead?

What if the judge knows more about this than we do and knew the father was relevant in this case.

The dad is in prison, long term, for a violent offence. It is in the DM linked article a few posts back. The child was having behavioural problems since nursery, is supposed to be medicated for ADHD and has "never settled in any school" which implies he's been excluded perhaps permanently.

If the father was a decent person, and had been involved positively in the child's life then who knows what the outcome might have been, but surely it would have been a better outcome.

I don't think I'm going to sit in judgement on this one.
I've read too many posts on MN in the past, from truly desperate parents who simply cannot control their aggressive, violent child, no matter what they try. They've asked for SS and the school to be involved, they've tried to get some professional support or a referral to CAMHS and got nowhere.
We don't know what caused the child to behave like that, or what his mother's life has been like for the last however many years. We can only speculate, and that's not going to be of value to anyone.

While I do agree with what you r saying you don’t if a decent parent swan off to Ibiza when you know your kid is being sentenced in court

I would think that’s because she’s the responsible adult for him if mum was in jail and it was dad tgat swanned off to Ibiza the judge would prob say the same about the dad

None of these rioters was "angry". They were - too a person - a bunch of thugs who thought they'd get away with it because the public and press are so dim.

I agree. They’re showing contempt for the justice system, which is the last kind of example thd child needs.

The mother is not above criticism, and it is astonishing that she would choose to go on holiday rather than be there with her child, even if she was at her wits end with him. The damage done to this child seems to have happened from the start, and both the mother and father are responsible for that.

You seem to know a lot about this man. I’m interested to find out more. Did he abandon them before his son was born or after?

I’ve got more question so look forward to your reply 🍿