Twelve year old rioter Mum gone to ibiza rather than court

[Daltonbear1]

https://inews.co.uk/news/boy-no-sentence-riots-southport-mum-ibiza-3256439

Like who does that they know that their son is going to court but Decides, it's a good time to go and go party at Ibiza. Like what the hell? The judge seems to be very shocked That a parent would do that. So now they have to witholdthe sentencing for when she gets back
You see, I think when you have a twelve-year-old doing what they Ve just done. It's the parents that really need to be sentenced as well. Because potentially, that would stop the children because the parents would actually start discipline the kids. But it just shows that some of these children really. Have such a c* start to life. How are they meant to be in a society that needs people to behave

I very much doubt they know who he is.

I imagine the focus is on the mother because that is who the child lives with and this is who attended police interviews with him and was confirmed to be the adult attending court with him.

“Boys like you need their mums in their lives. I need your mum here.” I didn't take this to be absolving the dad, just acknowledging the needs of the child. He probably doesn't need a waste of space/absent/whatever dad in court with him.

The mum is the person in the child's life raising him so she's the one being called out. This isn't a family court or family therapy where the dad has to be rightly called out for abandoning the boy.

The mum who's supposed to be the only (?) guardian and adult in the boy's life has fcked off somewhere when her little shit has a pending court case for rioting. That is what is being called out.

Misogyny is real but let's not play the M card where it doesn't exist.

Female judge needs to check her misogyny.

Of course mum is wrong to go away but

Few days holiday v dad fucking off for how many years?

They have both let this 12 yr old down.

Have you ever sat around in a magistrates court? It's endless kids like that. There's basically an underclass in this country that have persistent problems that no one ever addresses.

You can blame the parents, but they had the same from their parents, most likely. This little rioter will probably have a kid in the dock in 15 years time.

I'm not saying everyone in poverty or from poorer places is like this. But there is a cycle of shittiness in some families that takes up huge resource and we never pull out all the stops to try to change it.

Maybe she doesn't know who the father is

12 years old and already in court for violent disorder, mum gone off on her hols. Poor kid must have had such a chaotic lifestyle already in his short life with neither parents giving a tuppence for him, poor damaged little soul, he's no chance really has he? No role models, no love, no security or boundaries just a fight to survive in a cold world. Without some kind of intervention a story likely to be repeated for the next generation.

@StopGo
I suspect he only donated his sperm and is not a proper father!

I think it explains a lot about why he was rioting in the first place.
The judge also said the level of violence from the 12 year old child was higher than that he had seen from adults and other young people.

These two 'parents' are a disgrace. Says it all really. Mum chose a waste of space and then the relationship broke down.

Poor soul. Will be in and out of trouble now

Its learned behaviour

Exactly what I was thinking…

Sadly, the absent dad is also probably a shit parent.
Poor child never had a chance.

Is this the child whose dad is in prison and mum couldn’t cope so he went to live with his grandmother but she couldn’t cope either so he went back to his mum?

" Women get much harsher sentences than men"
In life you mean? Or the justice system?

Truth be told the 12 y/o would probably be better off if they get fostered thanks to SS being involved, that's if they're not involved already.

Yes Harold. There's a few grim families in my estate. I've pondered how much time and resources it would take to "fix" them. You'd probably have to split them up (kids to boarding school so they could at least learn?) there's generations of poor parenting and toxicity behind it.

A child without enough supervision (from either parent) getting into extreme group violence. Children who are isolated are preyed upon by extremists, because it is easy. If his uncle is the only one showing up.for this child hopefully SS will be getting involved?!

He will get a custodial sentence …that’s already been said
not sure why the mother would though? She ensured that her child attended court as directed ( he attended with his uncle) ……she wouldn’t go to prison for this ?

The judge presumably has access to reports about the child's upbringing. Either the father wasn't mentioned because they're not involved or they were mentioned and the journalist hasn't included that in their story.

That’s what I was thinking too.

Can someone who knows the law on sentencing minors say whether the mother is legally required to be there? I’m not excusing the mum, it’s awful behaviour, but is the judge just looking to make some societal point here?

Nobody is defending the mother for not being there when her child is in court. But (and I know it is an extremely low bar for a parent) at least she is somewhere around.

It is a sad fact that a long-absent father is such a common story that nobody even bothers to question it or ask where he is. The child doesn't really have much of a chance with parents like this.