Twelve year old rioter Mum gone to ibiza rather than court

[Daltonbear1]

https://inews.co.uk/news/boy-no-sentence-riots-southport-mum-ibiza-3256439

Like who does that they know that their son is going to court but Decides, it's a good time to go and go party at Ibiza. Like what the hell? The judge seems to be very shocked That a parent would do that. So now they have to witholdthe sentencing for when she gets back
You see, I think when you have a twelve-year-old doing what they Ve just done. It's the parents that really need to be sentenced as well. Because potentially, that would stop the children because the parents would actually start discipline the kids. But it just shows that some of these children really. Have such a c* start to life. How are they meant to be in a society that needs people to behave

I suspect it may well tell us a lot about the child's upbringing.

Just curious how you think a child in this family would be disciplined? Because I’m not thinking his parents have much control over themselves and potential anger issues.

My comment is more that the parents needs punishment to by the court as ut might make them give more kf a shit. As you obviously don't care if you going to ibiza. We don't know that they are being abusive to the boy it might just be a lack of actually caring what he does

I think the parents should be held in contempt and get a week locked up

The judge openly criticised the mother in court but what about the father?

Yes exactly as she obviously doesn't care

It tells you everything you need to know about why a 12 year old is angry enough to riot. I’m sure he’s now a prize little shit, but what a sad childhood.

I've just read about this.

Sadly there are lots of children being brought up by awful parents. What kind of parent fucks off to Ibiza when their 11 year old is being sentence. They have no chance really. A damning insight into this child's background

True but, maybe not involved which again is part of the issue to I do think we allow dads to get away with their duty to much in the UK I think we need to address this more

poor kid never stood a chance. he'll probably get a custodial sentence and then get taken into care. his mother will probably get a custodial sentence too.

I guess if the mother has fought the father for access then she is responsible, not the father. Very sad situation. Who TF goes on holiday and leaves their 12 year old behind anyway?

Poor kid

“Addressing the boy as she adjourned sentencing, Judge Hirst told him: “Boys like you need their mums in their lives. I need your mum here.”

And what about his dad? Does the child not need his father in this life? I can guarantee if dad went abroad instead of attending the sentencing then no-one would bat an eyelid.

Clearly this child’s mother will not win any awards for parenting but it’s so depressing that as a society we just accept shitty parenting from men but condemn mums.

well normally i would condemn the father, and i absolutely would condemn the father if he was in the childs life, but we don't know the circumstances surrounding the family life

The judge berating the mother with no mention of the father is just fucking typical of the misogyny meted out by our so-called justice system.

Not condoning the mother's actions at all - I mean what the actual? But what about the father? Why is it always the mother who is blamed for the sins of the child?

Really pisses me off.

And that's before we get into the subject of why women receive far harsher sentences than men.

I agree with you, Eastie but as there's no legal mechanism to compel fathers to stick around there's not much that any judge can do.

I don't think the problem is 'shitty parenting from men' as such, I think it's complete absence of the men involved - they spawn a child/children and move on to do it again and there's nothing to stop them.

The mother is this case is absolutely derelict in her duties to her son, never mind the court. What sort of person would do this, leave their child to be sentenced without any parent present? Perhaps some mothers who aren't the most committed when things get tough are showing just as much disdain for parenting as the absent fathers do? Who knows. It's a disgrace either way.

Maybe the law needs changing that if the man puts themselves on the birth certificate if they fail to show up for the child and prove that they have tried all methods incase mum is difficult etc maybe then they should be fined or put to court as it would help society to have these fathers step up more .

Is the father even in this child's life?

The judge can refrain from comments like “Boys like you need their mums in their lives. I need your mum here.” when last I checked parthenogenesis wasn't an option for humans (nor was spawning).

The judge is perpetuating the problem unless they made matching unreported comments about the absent father. "shitty parenting from men" is absolutely a big part of the issue.

It can’t come any surprise that a woman whose 12 year old is in court puts herself first. Just saying

Uncle was there, child was there and also seems date can be moved until mother's return.

I wouldnt go on holiday if it was my child. But i think sentencing being delayed or with Uncle is not likely to make much difference.

Very wrong of the judge to call only the mother out. The only excuse for not mentioning the father is if he’s dead.

If he’s not in the child’s life then he needs to be called out on that!

Good luck getting a judge to 'refrain' from making comments you don't like. What's said in court and what's printed are not necessarily the same thing.

It's a sad fact that men are allowed to walk away from their responsibilities, that's not disputed. If the man in question isn't in the child's life then what's to mention? Women can and do decide to raise children away from the sperm doner. 99% of those women would never do what this mother has done.

Mothers are the resident parent in most cases, holding the errant RP to account isn't wrong.

From another thread talking of this issue, where did it get to with a MN campaign to lobby the government about proper child support? I'm fully behind castrations for the feckless...

Not only court, but the first week back at school too?

Perhaps the Father is already in a nick somewhere. . . .
(just speculating) The tabloids haven't found him yet!

Why is the judge hyper focused on the mother and ignores the presence/absence of the father?