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Pt 8 (Oct13) Any old prolapse! Uterus/womb prolapse, rectocele, cystocele, enterocele, urethrocele, incontinence, pelvic floor, anterior and posterior repair, TVT etc

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Bladderama · 01/10/2013 18:12

Welcome to thread 8 (again - see below) of a long-running series of posts from ladies suffering from pelvic prolapses to support each other through the process of diagnosis, repair and recovery.

With apologies for confusion in thread numbers - an earlier thread was called part 7 but it was actually the 6th thread.

Here are the previous threads:

Thread 1
Thread 2
Thread 3
Thread 4
Thread 5
Thread 6
Thread 7

Info from BBC Health

What is a pelvic prolapse?

As the muscles, ligaments and supporting tissues in the pelvis become weaker, they are less able to hold in the organs of the pelvis such as the womb (uterus) or bladder.

Gravity pulls these organs down and, in the more severe cases, may appear through the entrance to the vagina.

A variety of problems can occur, depending on where the weakness lies and which organs are able to descend, but in every case there is some degree of prolapse of the vaginal wall, which begins to invert (rather like a sock turning inside out).
Prolapse of the womb or uterus is the most common prolapse, affecting as many as one in eight older women to some degree
Prolapse of the bladder, known as a cystocele, is less common.
Prolapse of the urethra (the tube that carries urine out of the bladder) is known as a urethrocele.
Prolapse of the intestines is quite rare, and known as an enterocele or rectocele.

Symptoms

Symptoms depend on which tissues descend, and how severe the prolapse is.

They may include:
A sense of heaviness or pressure in the pelvis.
The appearance of a bulge of tissue in the genital area, which can be quite alarming, and is often red and sore.
Urinary problems, such as having to urinate more frequently, feeling the need urgently, being incontinent (losing control of the bladder) or, conversely, being unable to pass urine when you need to.
Pain in the pelvis or lower back.
Sexual problems, including pain and decreased libido.
Constipation.
Vaginal discharge or bleeding.

Treatment and recovery

Once a prolapse has developed, surgery to fix the affected organs is usually the only way to cure it effectively.

However, another option is to use a device known as a vaginal ring pessary. This is rather like a contraceptive diaphragm or cervical cap. It's made of silicone or latex, and placed in the vagina to push back the prolapsed organs and hold them in place. Many women happily manage their prolapse this way.

OP posts:
Dragonroad · 15/12/2013 11:54

Hi all. Well operation not cancelled and I ended up with TVT , rectocile repair, back wall of vagina repaired and perineoplasty. Went in last Wednesday and came home late yesterday. I took all the pain relief, spinal block, morpheme and anti sickness stuff they had to offer and it was fine. The pack came out next day and the catheter the day after that. Peeing well but no pooing yet! Getting very worried about that but have had 4 senocot, 3 bisacodyl and lactulose in last 24 hours so am hoping for something very soon.
Am now lying on settee. Bit lonely as live alone but have a visitor coming later and everything I need at arm's reach.
Someone was asking about the marina coil. I love mine and although un comfortable to put in has been life changing and should have done it earlier

Footle · 15/12/2013 12:49

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Dragonroad · 15/12/2013 13:38

Thanks, have sent an urgent text to visitor!

happylilme · 15/12/2013 13:52

Dragon so glad everything went fine. Have been thinking of you. Bless you about the poo, it's those little rumbles you get in your tummy and you "rush" slowly to the loo. Hopefully after that cocktail you will get some relief. Smile

happylilme · 15/12/2013 14:02

HI ladyparts, I cant say about cystocele(bladder drop) I had back wall repair. It was less than 6 weeks for consultant appointment for me. I went to GP end of August, saw consultant the 17th September and had my op 6th December. I know that these waiting times can vary considerably around the country.
I also did weights after birth of my little boy and I do believe this made the condition worse.
I hope you don't have to wait too long.Smile

Dragonroad · 15/12/2013 17:32

Glad to report I have now been delivered of an enormous poo! Omg! Bit of an ordeal to say the least but it is done now.

Dragonroad · 15/12/2013 19:38

Happy - how are you? Being a few days ahead of me I am interested in how you are feeling now. Have you been out walking yet? First day home today and all I have done is sleep and make tea. Feel a bit sick so not eaten much. I am thinking this is a hangover from all the medication I have been popping. How much settee time are you having?
I have a visitor so might try a very small walk tomorrow.

Footle · 15/12/2013 20:48

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Dragonroad · 15/12/2013 21:46

It so did! I shall be eternally grateful.

Noordinarygirl · 15/12/2013 22:04

I'm really pleased that there seems a fair amount of positive messages here now with quite a few recoveries going relatively well. I have 18 days to go and it's about time too. Having BM problems and quite a bit of pain if I can't go as often as I used to, especially after being on my feet for ages. It almost feels as if I have a fist trying to push down and out! Have now finished work (annual leave - YESSSS) for Christmas and am going to spoil myself for a while before the op........because I'm worth it!!! LOL

happylilme · 15/12/2013 22:39

Plays out a big fanfare to Dragon, well done ThanksWinethe first poo is the hardest (i'm sure there is a song there)
Noordinary You really enjoy your time over Christmas Smile and you deserve to spoil yourself. Before you know it your op will have come and gone. Hopefully as well as mine. Have I just jinxed my recovery Hmm

myladyparts · 15/12/2013 22:48

Thank you happylilme :)

I never thought I'd be in a position where I am actually scared to exercise - feeling too lazy to exercise yes, but never afraid!

I have also never been so aware of my pelvic area either (which I suppose is kind of good) I now automatically cough, sneeze and even laugh whilst squeezing my pelvic floor muscles. Life was quite a lot easier and blissful when I was unconscious of all of this!

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RFLmum · 16/12/2013 13:16

Hi Dragon. Congrats on getting past the first 24 hours or so. I pretty much stayed in bed/sofa for the first 3 days and for the first 10/12 days have found it hard to walk any distance. I'm now 14 post op though and feeling sooooo much better. Have been to supermarket this morning, doing some housework now and intend to pick the children up from school later. So hang in there - it gets better? Smile

RFLmum · 16/12/2013 13:17

Didn't mean to add the question mark at the end - sorry

Dragonroad · 16/12/2013 17:28

Thanks everyone. Had a visitor this morning so thought I would shower in her honour. It was like climbing a mountain and half way through brushing my hair I had to dig deep to finish it! Any thoughts of going outside today were put to one side.
Like myladyparts I am far too aware of my pelvic floor. I was surprised to have stitches on the outside from the periioplasty (sp) and also a bit disconcerted it is all going to be different on the outside. I am glad he has tightened those muscles but I shall look like a12 year old with the scars and slackness from childbirth gone. Call mr odd but I wasn't at all bothered by that.
The TVT is interesting . I sort of ignored that in the big scheme of things but the puncher wounds on my pubic bone are quite sore. I can tentatively say the stress incontinense has gone. Obviously not put it under any stress but the wet, bogginess has gone!
Onwards and upwards! To anyone quaking in their boots about having a similar operation, 6 days after mine I can say I am not regretting it. Recovery from the operation is going to be long but worth it.

happylilme · 16/12/2013 17:42

Dragon im all good thank goodness. Still have stretchy feeling down below when I sit in a certain position. I have been out for a little walk yesterday. Felt human again. Only did 10 minutes before returning to my lovely setee. I have been there that long, a little stain on it is really annoying me. Just going slow and steady.
Did you feel anything after they took the catheter out?? like a pulling sensation.
Swelling has really reduced, taking arnica tablets which seems to have sped things along.

Dragonroad · 16/12/2013 19:19

Hi happy, the catheter was a blessing. It stayed in a couple of days and the drip also so I just laid in bed high on morphine - I sent some very weird texts during this time and kept everyone amused. I didn't
Like it being removed but once out I had no problems or stinging or odd sensations. What did you have?

Dragonroad · 17/12/2013 15:40

Ok, me again. Having a down day. Didn't take enough painkillers yesterday and had a sore night. I am finding it hard to eat. What I need is someone just to provide food rather than me having to rev myself up to get some.
Oh well, tomorrow is another day.

happylilme · 17/12/2013 16:30

Dragon if its any consolation, I have over did it today and feeling pretty sore all over. Went into town to try a little Christmas shopping, out for 45 minutes and was exhausted.Lying in bed now feeling sorry for myselfSad. Like you said tomorrows a new day.

Dragonroad · 17/12/2013 18:00

Happy and anyone else - I am surprised by how painful and swollen things are. I am taking tramodol 100mg in the morning and night and paracetamol in between. At 7 days in does that ring a bell? Are you still in pain? I thought it would be less painful and managed by paracetamol only.

happylilme · 17/12/2013 18:26

I am managing on paracetamol, at 11 days. I just seem to have a lot of pain around my back area like trapped wind Blush. I found that sitting around I drank more tea, making me wee a lot more.
I went to the dr this morning and after apologising for flashing my unsightly lady bits at 9 o'clock in the morning, I explained that I just wanted reassurance that things looked ok. She had a peak and said things were healing really well. Had a little bit of blood in urine though nothing for any concern. She explained that my discharge was totally normal.Blush Only be concerned if blood in it or bad smell. I think I need to chill and stop having little peaks.

happylilme · 17/12/2013 18:29

By the way Dragon you have had a lot more done to your bits and bobs so probably take longer than me.

lotsofquestions000 · 17/12/2013 21:49

Im 10 weeks post rectocele surgery but like to keep a look out on here for others going through these 'lovely' experiences. would just like to say to all you recent ones - hang on in there you do gradually start to feel better. Make sure you rest and look after yourselves - we most definitely ARE worth it! Oh and so far I think mine has been successful - but had to laugh at the comment about being afraid to exercise - that is me too! Keep using it being nearly xmas as an excuse but really im just scared Grin. But ive got a few more weeks of excuses!

jcakec · 18/12/2013 16:21

Happy and Dragon, you must look after yourselves, your ops were only a few days ago. I remember asking on here whether I should still be in pain and tired after 2 weeks and was told it was still very early days. It was true. It took about 6 weeks for me to feel more normal and for the pain and discomfort to subside. And if I did anything much I really suffered afterwards. We are all different and recover at different speeds but it is definately very early days for you guys. I know it becomes very frustrating when you want/need to do things but do take it easy if you can.