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Julie Bindel and JK Rowling laughing about the Musk Nazi salute incident

288 replies

HumHU3 · 22/01/2025 23:21

Thought someone might have already done a thread on this. I don’t always agree with Bindel but had a lot of time for her, but this has really surprised me. Not sure why they would be finding it amusing - Musk and Trump are hardly figures of fun, for feminists especially, whatever you think of the (clearly far right!) salute.

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hamstersarse · 25/01/2025 07:51

This thread is so stupid

I don’t even believe that @MrGHardy genuinely believes that Elon Musk is going to round Jews up and exterminate them, but still this constant accusation of being Hitler continues. Why? @MrGHardy

What does this bring to the table constantly accusing people you don’t like of being Hitler?

And you can’t see why people find this funny? Like JB and JKR? It’s so so dumb.

AlisonDonut · 25/01/2025 08:18

Epic is what it is.

This weeks meltdowns have been epic.

AzurePanda · 25/01/2025 08:29

@hamstersarse you win for the most sane and accurate post yet.

@MrGHardy i am baffled by your perspective but for starters there is video footage of Macron doing the exact same movement (thumps heart, arm goes out with palm down and fingers together). I’ve seen it all over the place but Musk retweeted it a day or two ago.

MrGHardy · 25/01/2025 09:18

hamstersarse · 25/01/2025 07:51

This thread is so stupid

I don’t even believe that @MrGHardy genuinely believes that Elon Musk is going to round Jews up and exterminate them, but still this constant accusation of being Hitler continues. Why? @MrGHardy

What does this bring to the table constantly accusing people you don’t like of being Hitler?

And you can’t see why people find this funny? Like JB and JKR? It’s so so dumb.

I never said he was Hitler...nice strawman I guess.

:@AzurePanda then link it...

MrGHardy · 25/01/2025 09:23

ps your circejerking is rather hilarious

RufustheFactuaIReindeer · 25/01/2025 09:28

MrGHardy · 25/01/2025 09:18

I never said he was Hitler...nice strawman I guess.

:@AzurePanda then link it...

I just saw that azure thank you for mentioning it

RufustheFactuaIReindeer · 25/01/2025 09:30

Oops the video of macron i mean

AzurePanda · 25/01/2025 09:45

@MrGHardy are you for real? Go find it yourself , it’s your dumb argument.

HumHU3 · 25/01/2025 11:07

AlisonDonut · 25/01/2025 08:18

Epic is what it is.

This weeks meltdowns have been epic.

Yeah it’s epic when US women die because they can’t access safe abortions or healthcare during a miscarriage. Epic when women in the UK are intimidated going to access reproductive healthcare or when some MPs just ‘suddenly’ decide that maybe our abortion laws need looking at. I’m sure we’ll all be having a good old laugh at these things in the coming years.

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RufustheFactuaIReindeer · 25/01/2025 11:42

Thats not what alison meant and you know it

is that honestly all you have?

HumHU3 · 25/01/2025 11:52

RufustheFactuaIReindeer · 25/01/2025 11:42

Thats not what alison meant and you know it

is that honestly all you have?

“All I have”? Honestly not everything online has to be some bizarre black and white grudge match. Being too online has seriously warped a lot of people’s capacity to discuss rationally and their ability to see things beyond ‘your side v mine’. Sad.
IMO it’s a serious issue - for feminists - due to the wider, incredibly serious context. So yes, it’s irresponsible to treat certain things about Musk or Trump or any of the other cronies as a laugh - if you care about feminist issues.

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marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 25/01/2025 11:58

@FancyRedRobin Excellent video.

AzurePanda · 25/01/2025 11:59

@HumHU3 as Trump has made clear, there will be no change to US abortion laws under his government. Biden, Clinton and Obama had decades to enact a Federal law on abortion and failed to.

As a separate issue there are of course some European countries where abortion is either illegal or significantly more restricted than the US but not many people seem interested in that.

AlisonDonut · 25/01/2025 11:59

Being too online has seriously warped a lot of people’s capacity to discuss rationally and their ability to see things beyond ‘your side v mine’. Sad.

You can say that again.

HumHU3 · 25/01/2025 12:10

AzurePanda · 25/01/2025 11:59

@HumHU3 as Trump has made clear, there will be no change to US abortion laws under his government. Biden, Clinton and Obama had decades to enact a Federal law on abortion and failed to.

As a separate issue there are of course some European countries where abortion is either illegal or significantly more restricted than the US but not many people seem interested in that.

Glad you trust him on that one but many don’t, with good reason. There’s a serious credible chance the Comstock law will be used to restrict abortion, for starters.

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RufustheFactuaIReindeer · 25/01/2025 14:51

no idea what you mean about grudge match

my ‘all you have’ comment referred to the fact that you seem to have stopped discussing and are now twisting what people have said

Being too online has seriously warped a lot of people’s capacity to discuss rationally

yep

RufustheFactuaIReindeer · 25/01/2025 14:52

No idea what ‘side’ i am supposed to be on 😳

HumHU3 · 25/01/2025 15:25

RufustheFactuaIReindeer · 25/01/2025 14:51

no idea what you mean about grudge match

my ‘all you have’ comment referred to the fact that you seem to have stopped discussing and are now twisting what people have said

Being too online has seriously warped a lot of people’s capacity to discuss rationally

yep

I’ve actually made a number of points on this thread about the threats to reproductive rights in the US and how it’s impacting women here via the likes of the AfD; threat of the tech bro oligarchy to reproductive rights; and so on. Others have just gone back and forth about whether it’s a Nazi salute and how it’s pathetic to worry about women’s rights in this context. But sure, I’m clearly the myopic one avoiding debate, and the ‘it’s not a Nazi salute’ lot have ‘won’, well done.

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MrGHardy · 25/01/2025 15:29

AzurePanda · 25/01/2025 09:45

@MrGHardy are you for real? Go find it yourself , it’s your dumb argument.

No, it's your argument...that it is a common gesture meaning something else. That isn't mine, it's yours...and all I am asking is you to provide evidence. You claiming someone did something and then tell the other person "you find it" is not how debating works.

At this point you are nothing but a troll.

RufustheFactuaIReindeer · 25/01/2025 15:39

But sure, I’m clearly the myopic one avoiding debate, and the ‘it’s not a Nazi salute’ lot have ‘won’, well done.

i didn't say you were avoiding debate or that anyone has ‘won’

and i was actually agreeing with you and your comments about debating rationally 🤷🏻

AzurePanda · 25/01/2025 15:55

@MrGHardy when did I describe it as a “common gesture”?

MrGHardy · 25/01/2025 16:46

AzurePanda · 25/01/2025 15:55

@MrGHardy when did I describe it as a “common gesture”?

You wrote: saying “thank you” thumping his heart and then flinging out his arm and saying “my heart goes out to you”

Other people wrote it isn't obviously a Nazi salute referring to whatever else it could be, waving for example. In order for it to not be an obvious Nazi salute, there has to be something it could reasonable be - something common.

But the fact that you are arguing semantics instead of simply linking your evidence is so telling and honestly, your trolling is getting tedious. So one last time - link anyone (Macron or whoever) who has done this. Just one video.

LefttheLeft · 25/01/2025 16:50

MrGHardy · 24/01/2025 19:59

I am not sure what your point is. If this is so common, link a video.

This has already been done in the thread. Plenty of photos of US politicians and video of Macron.

MrGHardy · 25/01/2025 16:52

LefttheLeft · 25/01/2025 16:50

This has already been done in the thread. Plenty of photos of US politicians and video of Macron.

I have already responded to photos.

Where is the Macron video?

LefttheLeft · 25/01/2025 16:54

hamstersarse · 25/01/2025 07:51

This thread is so stupid

I don’t even believe that @MrGHardy genuinely believes that Elon Musk is going to round Jews up and exterminate them, but still this constant accusation of being Hitler continues. Why? @MrGHardy

What does this bring to the table constantly accusing people you don’t like of being Hitler?

And you can’t see why people find this funny? Like JB and JKR? It’s so so dumb.

Absolutely this, well said.

Love @MrGHardy now defending himself by saying he never said Musk was Hitler, but only a Nazi. Glad that's sorted!