Julie Bindel and JK Rowling laughing about the Musk Nazi salute incident

[HumHU3]

Thought someone might have already done a thread on this. I don’t always agree with Bindel but had a lot of time for her, but this has really surprised me. Not sure why they would be finding it amusing - Musk and Trump are hardly figures of fun, for feminists especially, whatever you think of the (clearly far right!) salute.

Do you have any links?

‘Funny’ examples of various other people photographed with raised arms all over Julie Bindel’s X account, Rowling’s comments pop up under a tweet about accidentally doing a Nazi salute while exercising.

Also if Jeremy Corbyn performed the same salute at a pro Palestine rally I wonder if Rowling would be quick to laugh that off too.

Probably just commenting on the ridiculous nature of everyone overanalysing things to the nth degree which seems to be the fashion nowadays.

I saw that and surprised and disappointed. Musk is not the friend of women's rights

This is the problem when you align with wrong 'uns over a single issue.

I looked up Bindle, there's a shot of the ballet. I'm not really sure what's going on as I don't follow either of them. Are they Trump/Musk fans with their heads in the sand?

The German press seem pretty convinced by the salute.

It obviously wasn't actually a Nazi salute though. I don't agree with either of them on everything(although I do on many issues of women's rights) but the whole Musk/Nazi salute was obviously very silly and deserved to be mocked.

Who did this, babe, and where?

Jeremy Corbyn has form though for some pretty scary antisemitism including support for various terrorist organizations over the years. He was questioned by the police just last week because he was keen to lead another hate march past a synagogue.

Very different indeed from an autistic man who has been a strong supporter of Jews flailing his arm.

Musk is an awful man. But people who seriously think he was doing a Nazi salute are victims of the same sort of blinkered thinking that makes people believe men are women. Rowling and Bindel rightly know to make fun of such people.

They’re laughing because the accusation that he was doing a Nazi salute is facile. They’re certainly not alone in making fun of the whole thing.

The left should be focusing on issues that matter, not this.

I find it amusing, because it is ridiculous.

Even if "Musk is not a friend of women's rights" it is still ok to make fun of things that are silly. It ought to be possible to point out the ridiculousness of a position without being perceived as 100% aligned with Elon Musk. I miss when nuance and diversity of thought were allowed.

Bindel has a piece in the Telegraph today applauding Trump’s stance on the two “genders” issue whilst cataloguing and condemning his appalling record on women’s rights.

He’s been a vocal supporter of far right movements in Europe, and suggested the UK government should be overthrown, replaced by Tommy Robinson... I call that pretty scary and sufficient context to make this a news story.

RE strong supporter of Jews, not sure what you’re referring to there? Or do you mean Israel?
Also find this repeated reference to autism pretty nauseating and offensive.

Why choose this incident though? And is it really that silly? It’s an incredibly worrying time for women’s rights, as well as the rights of other vulnerable groups. Anyone involved in the feminist movement should know about the flow of money from Trump’s donors and backers into the UK and what that leads to, plus the potential impact of the likes of Tommy Robinson gaining a platform here. It seems totally bizarre and very depressing to me. I’m not policing their thoughts, they can think what they want, but it makes me seriously question and reflect on JB’s direction (as I said, previously didn’t always agree with her but was able to respect her).

@HumHU3 in the last year he has visited Auschwitz and also Israel to witness the aftermath of the October 7 attacks.

The ADL has dismissed any idea that it was a Nazi salute and I’m happy to follow their lead.

Look at the case of Steven Bannon to see that being a white supremacist can coexist with support for Israel in today’s far right movement.

But the definite meaning of the gesture isn’t the point I’m making here.

They're laughing because it's ludicrous to believe he did a Nazi (or 'far right') salute.

A man who supports the Afd, a party so far right , the French NF and Italians have distanced themselves from the, a man who stoked up race riots in our country, yeah, yep, no way it was a Nazi salute, despite the KKK and every white supremacist Nazi organisation praising his actions, for fucks sake....if something looks like shit, smells like shit, its usually shit @user243245346 and the vast majority think its a steaming pile of shit...

Instead of focusing on Elon Musk’s “salute”, perhaps the time would be better spent focusing on why, by all accounts, the ADF will shortly become the 2nd biggest party in Germany.

You must think X is extraordinarily powerful and Germans are extraordinarily dim if it’s all down to Elon.

I’m quite capable of thinking about multiple things at the same time - some of them interconnected and some of them entirely separate. It’s a wonderful skill to be blessed with :)

No, focusing on an un-elected billionaire in bed with the president, isn't something we should lose focus on.

Could you imagine if Biden took in George Soros ( the left leaning billionaire hated by the far right) into the White House?? Fuck, those little whiny snowflakes would be losing their minds!

Its AFD not ADF ! The reason they are riding high is the same reason we have Trump, Reform, French NF..etc, etc. - The West is in decline, immigration is high, the populist offer the people a return to prosperity and a way things were in some mythical past. These things are impossible, but very persuasive.

@HumHU3 well if you look across social media and sections of the press this week, you would think that the so called “Nazi salute” that is the issue. Take Mumsnet for example.

Good grief, it wasn’t a Nazi salute.
I’ve been called a Nazi for supporting women’s rights to single sex sports. Seems like everyone bandies round the word Nazi willy nilly nowadays.