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Katie Price & victim blaming

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AtlasNeverShrugged · 23/08/2021 20:11

Katie Price has been assaulted and has a "split eye".

However, the comments on Twitter are horrendous:

twitter.com/BBCNews/status/1429804052754440199

So many people calling her names, saying she probably deserved it because she's gobby etc. Sad

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PearlyBird · 24/08/2021 20:46

@Handsoffstrikesagain

Totally agree nancy. Dwight Yorke should be ashamed of himself. He left Kate to raise a disabled child alone. To abandon any child is beyond comprehension, but to leave one with such complex needs? He is an utter disgrace.
Agree. A real prince.
GreatestShowman · 24/08/2021 20:51

@greenalltheway

Reporting now mentions coercive control as well as theft.

'Man arrested for assault, coercive control and theft after star ‘punched’ released on bail'

Very sad and my heart goes out to her. Whatever anyone personally thinks of her she does not deserve the bike trolls and abuse.

It sounds like (and I hope I'm right) she has seized this opportunity to open up to the police about a pattern of prior abuse at the hands of that bastard "whoever he is"

If that is the case, I applaud her. It's so hard getting to that place when you still have feelings for the person.

I withdrew countless complaints about my abusive ex partner after he was arrested, regrettably, but then after the final incident something clicked and I thought "fuck this" and sang like a canary.

My heart goes out to Katie and her kids tonight and if by any small chance she's reading this thread, she should know that she is a beacon of light to many of us special needs parents. Certainly me.

DickDastardly · 24/08/2021 21:00

I have mixed feelings towards Katie price. She has poor parenting skills with lots of previous social services involvement - so that is not something to applaud. No right thinking parent would introduce this string of men into her young children's lives with such alarming regularity and always disastrous consequences and anyone who defends this is defending the indefensible really.

However what her current boyfriend has alleged to have done is despicable and I hope he's dealt with through the courts

GreatestShowman · 24/08/2021 21:14

She has poor parenting skills

Did you see the documentary Harvey & me?

She's a brilliant mother and advocate for her severely disabled son.

I don't know one parent who hasn't made mistakes somewhere down the line, and yes she has her demons but I certainly wouldn't say she is a bad mother.

If she were deemed inadequate then she wouldn't have shared care of her children.

It's easy to critique somebodies parenting when all of the skeletons in their closet are broadcast in the media but ours are hidden behind anonymity.

paperbaggy · 24/08/2021 21:14

Does anyone know if it's standard for him not to be named especially as it's in the public eye or is that unusual?
The arrest for coercive control in addition to the assault makes it obvious it's the bf.

Felix125 · 24/08/2021 21:18

He'll only get named once he has made his first appearance at court

Moonface123 · 24/08/2021 21:21

I hope Katie Price is safe now and amongst people who genuinely care about her.

converseandjeans · 24/08/2021 21:36

KP is coming across well on Celebrity Masterchef

whynotwhatknot · 24/08/2021 21:39

Is it weird that the perpetrator hasnt been charged yet or are they trying to gather more evidence

i thoght assault would be cut and dry

Thank god she wasnt pregnant with this one

mstroutpout · 24/08/2021 21:57

@hamstersarse

What is quite disempowering for women though IMO is the opposite of victim blaming, where we say we had no choice, we didn't know etc.

Protecting me from victim blaming was the worst thing that could have happened. I actually needed some victim blaming /aka empowerment to believe that this would never happen again, and also believe that it was me who was able to take control of the situation eventually.

A lack of 'victim blaming' seems to cross a very murky line into perpetual victimhood where you feel unable to actually be responsible for your own welfare.

All of that is not to say that he was not in the wrong by punching her. And yes, it may be the very first time but I would hazard a guess there were flags all over the place (I could tell just by looking at him tbh) and for whatever reason she decided to overlook that, as so many of us do - but that still with that said, like my friend said "we need to work out why you let that happen"

I can really relate to your posts. I was told something similar by (even more annoyingly) a male friend. I fell out with him for a long time after that. I was also outraged that I had to go on a course for victims of DV to learn about red flags etc (a sort of early freedom program) which I needed to attend in order for social services to deem me to be making changes to my tastes in men so as to safeguard my daughter.

My attitude was very much that it was my perpetrators fault alone and I was blameless. Which of course is absolutely true and is true for KP. Victim blaming is appalling.

But now years later I can see why my friend said what he did. And why I had to attend the course. It wasn't meant to blame me, but there was definitely learning for me to do to make sure it didn't happen again and I dare say KP will benefit not from feeling to blame for what happened but to realise that she does have agency over her life and can choose better for herself and her kids.

hamstersarse · 24/08/2021 22:34

@mstroutpout

Thanks. I’m glad it makes sense to you.

My friends comment enraged me at the time, it felt victim blame-y, but like I’ve said it was the most helpful thing anyone ever said to me in the period post-marriage. That includes women’s aid who also told me none of it was my fault, repeatedly. I do know what we mean by ‘not my fault’, I definitely do, but as with everything in life it’s not as black and white as that. I did have a choice. Always.

How very Wizard of Oz

whynotwhatknot · 24/08/2021 23:40

Youre both right-she needs the freedom program or something to help her recognise the sort of people she goes out with

Felix125 · 25/08/2021 01:11

@whynotwhatknot

Is it weird that the perpetrator hasnt been charged yet or are they trying to gather more evidence

i thoght assault would be cut and dry

Thank god she wasnt pregnant with this one

They will need to go to CPS for charging advice. Also, if its ABH they are looking at, they will need medical reports/statements to show the extent of injury.

I don't think they will be looking to remand him, so it will be a case of bailing him for a few weeks for a charging decision from CPS.

They may also be other evidence which needs to be examined - witnesses/neighbors. He might have come up with other lines of enquiry in his interview etc

NoNotYou · 25/08/2021 05:51

@3luckystars

She does post here sometimes.
How do you know that? Hmm
NoNotYou · 25/08/2021 05:56

O hope he does get jail time. Piece of shit doing that to a woman. Hope he never gets another girlfriend again after this

Felix125 · 25/08/2021 11:52

I don't think he'll get jail time unfortunately.

At a guess, it will probably be looking at a common assault charge. Coercive & control is difficult to get a charge for as you have to prove it has significantly effected the victim's day to day life. Not sure of the details for the theft.

I'm guessing a fine, restraining order, unpaid work, anger management intervention

NiceGerbil · 25/08/2021 12:21

Depends if he's got form though

Thethreecs · 25/08/2021 13:16

Poor Katie. I read he was bailed to September 20th. You really don't know what goes on behind closed doors. The comments on SM are sickening. Gosh there are some vile people in this world.

TonyThreePies · 25/08/2021 13:32

I hope she doesn't take him back. She went quite off the rails after her last relationship ended, by all accounts, and that is why her children now live with their fathers.

Handsoffstrikesagain · 25/08/2021 13:34

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This has been withdrawn by MNHQ at the poster's request.

paperbaggy · 25/08/2021 13:40

''that is why her children now live with their fathers.''

This is not true. She still had joint custody of all her children. The two youngest were even unfortunately there when this happened.

Drinkingallthewine · 25/08/2021 17:05

Where is #bekind when you need it? Just another empty hashtag.

Well indeed.

I like her a lot, her life cannot be easy. And have felt in previous years that if she took some time out of relationships, focused on herself, that she would be all the better for it and have a better radar for the type of cunts that use and abuse her. I would love for her to see this as a turning point, as many of us have, that when the abuse gets so much that you can't conceal or dismiss it, that you turn it all around.

Lots of us who emerged from DV, it's only looking back that we see the extent of it, the patterns in previous relationships and learn to make better choices armed with knowledge of DV we previously didn't have.

So I wish her all the best and hope that she recovers and thrives from here on in.

Queenie6655 · 25/08/2021 17:08

How dare he

And with the children in the house !?? Bastard

Did he steal her engagement ring?
Creep

Must say he freaked me out when he would post pics of KP's oldest daughter on his page
It just seemed so wrong to me and perverted

paperbaggy · 25/08/2021 17:31

Surely if he paid for the engagement and took it back it wouldn't be enough to arrest him for theft?
The source didn't actually say it was stolen just that 'she no longer has her engagement ring' probably just a way of confirming it was him and that she is no longer in a relationship with him without actually mentioning him.

whynotwhatknot · 25/08/2021 18:24

I agree if it was him that bought it its not exactly stealing

all the bekind thing though gets on m nerves caroline flack does the same thing but its oh poor caroline she didnt mean to why was she different- when its a woman it doesnt seem to have the same reaction

Just in my opnion

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