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Feminism: chat

Katie Price & victim blaming

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AtlasNeverShrugged · 23/08/2021 20:11

Katie Price has been assaulted and has a "split eye".

However, the comments on Twitter are horrendous:

twitter.com/BBCNews/status/1429804052754440199

So many people calling her names, saying she probably deserved it because she's gobby etc. Sad

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OpheliaOpholia · 25/08/2021 19:54

What does he do for a living that enables him to afford a 50k ring in the first place? Does he have a proper job or is he another wannabe 'influencer'

SecondCityShark · 25/08/2021 19:59

The press are saying that the ring went 'during the incident' so it sounds like he's taken it.

A couple of days before this, I was looking at pictures of KP in the press (of her latest face-lift) and I had a feeling that one day soon, if she is allowed (by her friends and family) to carry on on this trajectory....well.

Her friends and the people who love her really need to support her now. She's incredibly vulnerable and has been increasingly so for the past couple of years. Poor woman.

mstroutpout · 25/08/2021 20:11

@whynotwhatknot

I agree if it was him that bought it its not exactly stealing

all the bekind thing though gets on m nerves caroline flack does the same thing but its oh poor caroline she didnt mean to why was she different- when its a woman it doesnt seem to have the same reaction

Just in my opnion

As far as I understand it, (for what the media has reported anyway) Caroline flack threw a lamp at her bf who was trying to stop her self harming. Then she harmed herself further. Whilst we don't want people throwing objects at their partners, a thrown item during an argument is very different to what we've seen reported about KP.

From what I understand of this incident (again, only what the media is reporting) with KP, someone assaulted her and split her eye and lip.

They are very different scenarios. Before we start the whataboutery we need to wait and see.

Handsoffstrikesagain · 25/08/2021 20:49

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QOD · 25/08/2021 21:04

He’s doing this in all the photos from yesterday. What’s he signing. ?

Katie Price & victim blaming
Handsoffstrikesagain · 25/08/2021 21:07

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QOD · 25/08/2021 21:08

You think ?

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whynotwhatknot · 25/08/2021 21:47

Sorry @mstroutpout she was arrested and charged awaiting trial thats not just throwing a lamp at someone is it

QOD · 25/08/2021 22:45

Erm @Handsoffstrikesagain whaaaat? I merely said ‘ you think ? ‘
Not sarcasm!

I genuinely think/thought he was doing some domestic violence sign or something- but that’s a clenched fist with thumb tucked in

If you look at the slew of photos in the mail online there’s 4 where he’s doing that

Handsoffstrikesagain · 26/08/2021 00:24

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QOD · 26/08/2021 05:44

No worries - I know the photos were taken close together but it looks so specific
I know innocent until proven guilty but he has always given that hard dead eyed look. Agressive looking - admits he was on steroids I believe ?

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Wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 26/08/2021 09:10

Can we not speculate about the event? This thread will be deleted because the matter is sub judice.

As for Caroline Flack, she killed herself. I'm not quite clear what the poor woman has to do with Katie Price.

Felix125 · 26/08/2021 09:38

There is also lots of name calling against her previous partners too.

As far as I am aware, Pete Andre, Keiran Hayler & Alex Reid have never been violent or nasty in any way to her - the relationships just seem to end.

Correct me if I'm wrong of course

SapatSea · 26/08/2021 11:30

Looks like she won't be able to face the "grilling in court"
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9927551/Katie-Price-likely-drop-assault-case-face-grilled-court.html

I can totally understand that.

Pieceofpurplesky · 26/08/2021 11:57

@QOD

He’s doing this in all the photos from yesterday. What’s he signing. ?
It almost looks like a K in sign language!
OpheliaOpholia · 26/08/2021 13:50

@Felix125

There is also lots of name calling against her previous partners too.

As far as I am aware, Pete Andre, Keiran Hayler & Alex Reid have never been violent or nasty in any way to her - the relationships just seem to end.

Correct me if I'm wrong of course

Alex Reid traumatised her with his weird perversions and Kieran Hayllar was a habitual cheat (he claimed to be a sex addict) who shagged the nanny among other people.

Not physically violent but definitely not healthy relationships.

redded · 26/08/2021 15:01

Carl's management are denying he's done anything wrong in his comments on instagram. He also seems to have gained 10k+ followers since

Cravingcleaningproducts · 26/08/2021 19:32

@redded

Carl's management are denying he's done anything wrong in his comments on instagram. He also seems to have gained 10k+ followers since
Ah that'll be why he was bailed and not charged then, the spineless bastard has obviously denied hitting her.

I wouldn't be surprised if he tried to claim she'd hit herself. His type like to try and spin that one.

Felix125 · 26/08/2021 23:15

Might be going down the lines of self-defence

NiceGerbil · 27/08/2021 01:57

Loads of women have experience of boyfriends partners etc being violent.

Being any sleb must be a nightmare. Anyone you meet. Do they actually like you or do they like your image, want a piece of the fame? Are they going to sell anything to the papers? Are they after you because while abusers can spot someone vulnerable in your case it's in the press all the time in neon letters? Do they like the idea but not the reality of a woman who is famous/ successful/ as so many men apparently do Etc etc.

Peter Andre is alright isn't he?

I think the freedom program etc is great but BUT it's the men who need sorting out.

In the end she was hurt enough to need hosp and police are looking into it.

Off the top of my head re female celebrities and I'm not someone who follows stuff. I can think of a fair few who got attacked by their blokes. It's not uncommon and women are women.

Anyway. I hope her eye is ok and she is too. Well as much as she can be.

TooBigForMyBoots · 27/08/2021 03:20

Carl's management are denying he's done anything wrong in his comments on instagram. He also seems to have gained 10k+ followers since

That is not surprising. It seems trendy to hate on women these days.

nosafeguardingadults · 27/08/2021 04:36

Ah that'll be why he was bailed and not charged then, the spineless bastard has obviously denied hitting her.
Wouldn't be surprised if he tried to claim she'd hit herself. His type like to try and spin that one

Happened to me. My partner says he'll tell them it was self harm. He'll say I'm the abuser. Think I have proof of the truth but lost some of it. Was told when in refuge evidence didn't matter. Happened with an old GP said same when went to show my injuries. They were wrong cos if police case or housing application, you need evidence.

Her situation know worse if celebrity. If she gives evidence, be hell for her. Cos so trauma and frightening going to court. Feel understand why she saying can't face court. I not mentally strong enough even worse for famous cos so much media will happen. I frightened ashamed humiliating. Even maybe it being reported the court case in local paper cos some do that but don't usually name the victim. I couldn't cope even with that. I've had serious physical violence but destroyed me was the psychological abuse and also trying to get help to be safe.

Shouldn't be more trauma. Some places kind but postcode lottery and even in same organisation there's some bad support advocates. The good ones try to help you leave and be safe place but the bad ones don't want to help and tell you to just go to police. They don't care how trauma for me doing that and how my mental health too damaged from abuser to cope with court case.

Is cruel forcing victims to have trial without consent. Priority should be helping victim, supporting her to be safe and support with the mental health caused by trauma. Know some violent perpetrators dangerous so maybe if public protection means court necessary without victim consent, victim should be left alone. Maybe initial report if made can be used by victim shouldn't be forced to give more evidence or go to court. Police statement and any other evidence maybe witnesses can be used. Think very important too that victim allowed privacy. If famous person, should be no reporting at least til after case over and definitely no loads of media stuff and harassing her.

Victim blaming happened to me too. Worse is when it happens from professionals working in support services. Some wonderful very kind ones but also some bad almost abusive ones. The bad ones decide if they want to help you advocate and if they decide they think you don't deserve help maybe because you not stereotype victim or they don't like you for any reason maybe even where you from or if you too frightened to trust especially at first. They start blaming you. Happens also when places don't help even if breaking legal duties to help. Some people start accusing people like me of making excuses for not being in safe home so saying am lying when I'm not lying about lack of or failed support. Sorry post long just feel it's bad the victim blaming like what happened with her cos people who dont like her shouldn't say she deserved violence just because they don't like her. They shouldn't be like that with any victim.

Lessthanaballpark · 27/08/2021 04:48

all the bekind thing though gets on m nerves caroline flack does the same thing but its oh poor caroline she didnt mean to why was she different- when its a woman it doesnt seem to have the same reaction

It’s interesting because literally everyone I’ve spoken to IRL about Caroline Flack has said how terrible what she did was and then followed up with the “but no one thinks it’s bad because she’s a woman. If it were a man there’d be an outcry!”

It’s weird because when it’s a woman doing bad things she gets vilified like a man would but then she gets this extra assumption of privilege.

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