I have been sectioned.

[lazyhazydaisy]

I have just got access to the internet. I am much less petrified than I was at first but definitely 0 out of ten. I have a tribunal and if that fails I think I will be here until July. I feel as though I am living in a nightmare. I have never felt so alone.

aesopslabials,please please be aware that lazy does indeed need more help than you are able to give her.

i am not trying to save her. i want her to save her :) i want to help that is all folks. i don't know daisy in real life nor do i need to. you can think me naive but i will not turn somebody away in distress. i cannot give support unconditionally, i have disabilities and a child too... but i will do what i can as i believe that is what being a human being is about. only advice i can give is practical anyway, i have not met daisy. i am good at practical and i do know the system. if that helps make her life any more bearable then i am happy about that and it is worth it. sorry that you think i am a bleeding heart type but my friends would laugh at that :P

just want to help

Spent the last 3 hrs reading this Daisy, and I am so sorry you are going through all this.

It all rings a bell with me, Aesop is v v right when she mentioned that disabled mothers get the same attitudes & 'help' when asking for help.
For many people it would seem incomprehensible & quite possibly mad to believe that any institution could have so many injustices, Inhumanities & inconsistencies in it, but it's true that for the most vulnerable people in society they are damned if they do get help, & damned if they don't.

The way through it is to get enough good people's support behind you & get through it with their support. (I believe anyway!). I am worried that you aren't letting mumsnetters help you - not local help but mumsnetters from out of the area.

Please let us help you, you need more people on your side than just you...

Again, so sorry you have been through so much, & you are in a desperate state now.

aesops,I believe that you are genuine,and good for you.
And Daisys problems may indeed be genuine too.
But right now,and I mean right now,she needs more than what MN and your forum can give her.

Ps don't stop posting. I get worried when I see posters cutting off your only contact with the world, however well meaningly at heart.

For what it's worth, it's not normal to be suicidal but also, this is not a very normal situation, so who can judge how anyone would feel. What I do know is that NO ONE on this thread thinks it would be ok for you to kill yourself, there are routes out of this hell, please hang on there & gather the strength to keep holding on

hello double :) have you looked into the disabled parents network? fabulous resource who helped me hugely when faced with the delights that you mentioned above. if you look on the forum there it is quite shocking how many disabled parents get harassment and grief :(

Evening all. We just wanted to repeat OliviaMumsnet's post from earlier this weekend and say we've received lots of mail about this thread .

We have no plans to delete this thread but we recognise that this is a difficult and specific situation - and we do always advise anyone who mails in to us with their concerns about the OP to point her towards RL help.

It's truly wonderful to see how much support the OP is getting but it is worth underlining at this point that none of us are mental-health experts and none of us are completely au fait with the exact nature of the OP's situation.

So we probably all need to be aware that there is a risk that any posts offering much more than sympathy and support - however well-meant - may very possibly endanger the OP's health even further.

We also understand how distressing/triggering this thread might be to others and we do think it's important that every poster should be aware of the need to protect themselves - by not giving more of themselves to this thread than their own wellbeing can afford.

thank you amillion. i am. i know the internet is full of dodgy stuff but i am happy to out myself to mnhq to prove i am not preying on a vunerable oerson in any way. means a lot, ta

and yes of course she needs more than i or others can give, but already she is making steps to help herslef and contacting people and reach out. maybe with a few behind her for encouragement daisy will be able to access the support needed?

cheers helen, i actually reported myself to speak to one of you... i am new here so don't know the protocol...

not looking to do anything but listen and look into any practical help available to daisy and to be a friend. no more. i am actually quite well qualified ;) (and happy to prove to you ) but i am not talking here in that capacity at all. just one human to another.

i have lurked here on mn for quite a while and not dared to join in.... the thread that got me posting i think was when aillidh was so ill. and then this one. i probably do appear to be a bleeding heart don't i :-o

I am also concerned by the armchair diagnosis' based on the op's perception.

I totally agree with madmouse.

Daisy, I hope you get the RL help you need.

could we not just agree to support daisy by listening and practical suggestions without judgement of her "mental state" seeing as none of us have met her? surely this thread is here to help her and if offloading helps and draws others in who have been in a similar space then it is a good thing and it would be tragic to see her run off? is that too fluffy? i don't think so :(

Good post HelenMN

I don't think this thread should disappear. I think it's fine that Daisy expresses whatever she feels on here, as she has made it clear in past posts that it really helps her.

I would just like those trying to help her to entertain the possibilty that people and or situations that Daisy describes may not be as in reality.

Sorry you don;t feel safe here, Have read the entire thread, every word and wanted to say hello and offer my support. Honestly I can;t get my head round your experience as I am sure you will understand it was so extreme and horrifying and I have been lucky enough not to experience it.

I do suffer with mental illness and I fear your experience though i have been very well recently.

Wish i could do more to help.

What do you wish you could change about your life - apart from deleting the last year - what do you really need and want?

i think the thread is helping daisy and she has made great strides to contact people and mentioned that she was looking into the roof etc next. that is progress. she is also still alive- that in itself is a good thing. people can only do so much online and most on here have given details of outside links or people who can assist more. being a friend to someone in distress is not a negative thing and right now daisy is isolated beyond belief. i am glad that the thread will not be pulled. i hope that daisy comes back- this thread may help others and contains some good info and v lovely people.

God I have just rad this and agree completely with what reality has said.....
And if anyone doubts my credentials they can check my posting history and experience.......
Its horrifying

daisy don't feel that you cannot post :(
wondering how you are doing today and have you eaten?

I would suggest that nobody, however well-meaning, clogs up mn's time with well meaning emails.

With the help of Garlic and others I have started to make lists an do practical things, like ring BG.

If anyone else suggests real life help I will eat the bloody dog. I have no human contact apart from the drips who tell me that I am better and no longer need 'support'

And anyone who thinks that 10mf of valium and a glass of wine thinks that is a suicide attemt, they should look it up. It was a course of unconsciousness after one of the armchair pschologists.

Thank you, mumsnet, for not deleting this thread. I have no human contact but I got used to that during the 4 months of incarceration.

Aesop, I will get back to you eventually. I don't want any money, just support'

It pleases me that this is the fourth thing to come up on Google. Perhaps people as desperate as me can read this and realise that some people have empathy and others are part of the problem'

take your time it is cool just happy to see you still here and am very happy that you are making lists of practical stuff.... and i agree about the google thing too. you are sadly not alone in having experienced what you have :( try to pick the bits on here that will help you... you have lots of people on here who identify and care honestly

I also want to print this thead, if my printer had not been rained on for four months, for my dc to read.

Another who competely agrees with Reality.

lazy pls pm garlic or dolly or me for board link if you need it. you can close pms down afterwards.

Yet another who agrees totally with reality, madmouse (good to see you) and MaryZ. Many other posters are behaving very badly, feeding an obviously very unwell individual and allowing her to continue to misinterpret actions by her mental health team. Any of who who are not mental health service users should be embarrassed by yourselves, you are exacerbating an already difficult situation.
Daisee, you are very far from well at the moment, the difficult part for you is accepting that fact.