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I have been sectioned.

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lazyhazydaisy · 26/01/2012 11:23

I have just got access to the internet. I am much less petrified than I was at first but definitely 0 out of ten. I have a tribunal and if that fails I think I will be here until July. I feel as though I am living in a nightmare. I have never felt so alone.

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lazyhazyDaisee · 19/07/2012 20:05

He took the bloody tool box!

Pickles77 · 19/07/2012 20:05

I see, that man is the one with the issues!!!

lazyhazyDaisee · 19/07/2012 20:13

He was trying to help me, Pickles, by sending me for a rest cure in a nursing home. Come to think about it, if the scissors woman had succeeded, it would have made quite a good Agatha Christie plot.

DO YOU HAVE A PILOT'S LICENSE? What colour is Polonium?

Shakey1500 · 19/07/2012 20:18

Yes, the "music" "class" was really bizarre. As if waving a tambourine around was going to make anyone say "D'ya know WHAT? I feel MUCH better now, thank you so much!!!"

And I know it gets slated on MN but I used to try and do the Daily Mail Crossword to maintain concentration.

I also used to keep notes Daisy. It's quite bizarre reading them back now. The fear after the attack is almost palpable on the pages. I also remember having to sign out a razor to shave my legs (understandable I suppose) but NO privacy whatsoever. Food was disgusting.

I was trying to explain to my husband how crap they were. Fortunatley one day, when he was visiting I said "Look, watch this..." A nurse came passed, asked the usual "How are you feeling?". I said "Really not good, really down.." to which she replied "Good, good..." and carried on her merry way. Unbelievable.

They truly are shocking these places.

Daisy I agree, you have a real flair for writing!

Pickles77 · 19/07/2012 20:21

Urm no I don't?
I hope karma really is a bitch for that
Man!!

lazyhazyDaisee · 19/07/2012 20:25

I posted a notice on my door requesting that no one asked me how I was feeling. I posted that the answer was zero out of ten and being patronised made me feel worse.

garlicbutter · 19/07/2012 20:32

So your partner lived with you for six years, but kept his own house on as well. He paid council tax for his other house, so was basically registered as living there - not with you.

He kept you separate from his birth family and his adult children, despite knowing this upset you.

Did he get mail at the other house? It sounds as though he was keeping your relationship secret and separate from his other life. Like a married man hides his mistress. This would make anybody feel insecure.

He had been telling you you were unbalanced for a long time.

He took advantage of your septic cut to tell the GP, who was a locum and therefore didn't know you, that were irrational and had "psychedelic dreams", whatever the fuck those are supposed to be.

As you'd been having yet another row about his keeping you away from his family - and were, very likely, feverish due to the infection - you blurted your emotional problems out to the locum. Who took this to be evidence that your boyfriend was correct about your "instability" and began mental health procedures.

After you were sectioned, your boyfriend visited you in hospital where he ignored your complaints about your treatment, instead persisting with a fiction of gentle therapies which you were not receiving.

Did he register a formal complaint with the police about their handling you with undue force?

Why was he not present when you were sectioned? Assuming he instigated it, in his "caring" role, he must have known when it was scheduled.

Did he look after the dog while you were in hospital?

Why did he not take care of your home? Why did he not fix the doors, apparently breaking in to retrieve his things instead? Why is he now talking to you about "rest homes" like something out of a Victorian novel?

It looks to me as though he engineered your mistreatment. What do you think? Have I misunderstood what you wrote?

lazyhazyDaisee · 19/07/2012 20:46

Just noticed this, but please do not redact it, mn.

'This document is confidential.
Unauthorised use or disclosure is unlawful.
Any disclosure, copying, distribution of the informtion contained herein is strictly prohibitied.

Does this mean I get my time in court, or a cocktail in a arse?

annalovesmrbates · 19/07/2012 20:52

I suspect arse cocktail but probably safer to get deleted?

annalovesmrbates · 19/07/2012 20:52

I suspect arse cocktail but probably safer to get deleted?

garlicbutter · 19/07/2012 20:56

Click Report next your posts, Daisy. There's a contact form for you to tell MN why you want it deleted.

lazyhazyDaisee · 19/07/2012 21:02

DAY in court. DAY in court.

lazyhazyDaisee · 19/07/2012 21:04

I didn't preserve four months of nearly getting a regional accent and asked how I managed at Mc Donalds not to get my day in court.

lazyhazyDaisee · 19/07/2012 21:07

If cocktail in arse is the general consensus, could I have some absinthe in it? And if it puts me unconscious, could I have some dental treatment at the same time?

lazyhazyDaisee · 19/07/2012 21:11

There is one person on mn who knows the identity of Alcatraz. If I end up going doooooown, then would that kind person send me AmberLeaf tobacco and those very large pots of double cream that they do at Tesco? (And some absinthe if pos. You can smoke in prison) I will stick a load of cash up my nether regions to be on the safe side.

lazyhazyDaisee · 19/07/2012 21:38

The dog was put in kennels, and was treated with extreme kindness. She is only one so the kennel owner kept her in with his own dog family. If anything like this happens to me again I am going to ask to be put in kennels. She also was very ill at the kennels and they took her straight to the vet, twice. This was all paid for by the taxpayer at £10 pd plus vet bills

lazyhazyDaisee · 19/07/2012 21:54

'Dear Daisee, In respect of the cost of your admission I cannot give you an accurate estimate of the cost of your stay as the information you require is not routine (sic) available to me. (Does he not have a line manager?).

....

You ask whether I feel that your desire to know the cost of your experience to make a Freedom of Information request (does he mean data protection?) or your right to complain will appear as symptoms of an illness. I can perhaps best answer that question by saying that although I have occasionally been involved in complaints I have only very rarely been involved in a Freedom of Information requests from the Trust to do with my patients and I have never been asked for a detailed costing of an admission before, nor have I been involved in a request to provide details of the Trust's contractual arrangements with third parties. (?) The second of these, in particular, strikes me as unusual and might be condidered to relate to what had previously diagnoses as over-valued ideas.

I have read David Rosenhan's paper many times and have often given it to trainees to read. May I recommend Anthony Clare's Psychiatry in Dissent for and alternative perspective.'

This is from my drug-crazed psychiatrist. This is why I am afraid to make a complaint and would far rather go to prison than Alcatraz.

garlicbutter · 19/07/2012 22:47

Clare's book looks like an interesting recommendation. Have you read it? There's a sizeable outtake of it on Google Books.

garlicbutter · 19/07/2012 23:07

Daisy - What over-valued ideas did he observe? Was it possible to subject the ideas to a logical test?

When I was diagnosed with anorexia as a teen, the shrink got me to place two chairs my exact hip-width apart (this came with some preamble and my friends did the experiment too). I could not ignore the fact that there was loads of space between my hips and the chairs, therefore I wasn't as wide as I thought. This proved my idea about my size was "over valued" and so I accepted there was something wrong with my idea. Were you able to apply any tests to your ideas, which the shrink said were over-valued?

lazyhazyDaisee · 20/07/2012 00:39

The 'overvalued ideas' were my outrage at being assaulted by the police and dragged down 2 flights of stairs for no reason I could comprehend and manhandled by my hair into a cell in a police van. And constantly asking about my dog and asking why I was there in the first place.

The Anthony Clare argument, which I will look at more closely tomorrow appear to be based on the fact that the pseudopatients did not, in fact, act normally. If they had acted 'normally', they would have told the staff that they were entirely sane and just acting as part of an experiment. This is what I did, constantly; told the staff that there was nothing wrong with me and that I needed to go home. This was taken as a symptom of a 'mental' illness, a lack of insight, and a need for enforced powerful drugs. This man spoke to me for about 10 minutes a fortnight and everything I told him convinced him to up my drugs to a level only licensed for mania.

lazyhazyDaisee · 20/07/2012 00:42

And I had to count backwards in 7s, which was fairly easy to someone with an A level in furthur maths! That counted as 'grandiose' and 'over-intellectualising. Yet more symptoms. No wonder I made the decision not to speak at all. ('self-isolating').

lazyhazyDaisee · 20/07/2012 00:50

I do not want this thread pulled. I have put hours and hours into this.

garlicbutter · 20/07/2012 09:28

There's no reason why your thread would be pulled Confused

Yes, I gave you an example of when a shrink correctly identified an 'over valued idea' and it helped me. In my later encounter with mental health treatment, I was faced with circular fallacies similar to what you describe. My hospital treatment was kinder than yours - though the fallout was as bad - and my approach to dealing with it was less combative. Sometimes, I think, you have to acknowledge that people make mistakes (your shrink, perhaps) and people do the wrong things for the right reasons (mine, I choose to believe).

It would be ridiculous to insist someone is mentally ill, purely because they insist they are not! Was he that incompetent??! Were there any other ideas he considered over-valued?

whatthewhatthebleep · 20/07/2012 10:39

I really believe that you need to try and not allow all of this dreadful experience to consume you like it is. I understand the horror and terrible trauma you describe and I wouldn't try to dismiss that at all and I can see that you are quite driven to find some justice and recompense for all you have endured...but...you must also allow yourself to re-establish your everyday life and work to move on into a more positive way of being and conducting yourself through your life...
That in not doing this, you are perpetuating the horror and trauma and it is clouding any clear views of where you want to find yourself and working towards that healing balance iykwim?
If you keep allowing this to govern every waking thought...it will swallow you up...
I wonder that you should be going to see your local housing office to discuss the damage and difficulties you are suffering in your house, they would very likely be able to find you alternative accommodation and possibly help you with the repairs so that you could move back into your house or sell it. I'm assuming you have no income to speak of? You could speak to Welfare Rights who can advise on benefits and help you to access those on your terms...assuming you are at the moment 'unfit to work' or are retired and may be entitled to certain benefit assistance...they could and would help you to do all this. There may well be certain grants and funding that would help pay for the repairs? You need to investigate these option's and you can't expect to accomplish these things alone
You must try to see the long play with all this...this is your life and you want to find the best way to re-establish your life....will you try to look at this in a different way that would allow you to get yourself into a better life situation?

It is maybe like a full-time job and you still need to take care of all your daily needs and welfare. The job is making the best plan and moving forward with whatever action you decide to make regarding this serious, shocking, dreadful experience you have endured (where are your lawyers on all this evidence they must also have?) and working towards justice and recompense and whatever your goal may be...thats absolutely right but it is also absolutely right that you have safety, hot water and all the basics you are lacking...you need to address these issues and get on an even keel with this to start with....

You need to try and prioritise your needs and tackle things from the ground up...and there is alot of assistance available to enable you to do this....please try to work forward for your own self in the right way....if and when you can re-establish any contact with your DC's then you want them to see you are well and ok...thats what you would want isn't it?....for them to at least know that you are doing ok?...but...you need to want this for yourself first....you deserve to make things better for your own self...don't you?

I wish you blessings, peace and balance for your life xxx

lazyhazyDaisee · 20/07/2012 11:25

Garlic, I didn't have any over-valued ideas like that but I know what you mean. I visited a friend with anorexia in the Priory. I was a size 10-12 and she was sitting in a comfortable chair when I went in. She apologised for not getting up (due to being about 5 stone) and spent the rest of the conversation telling me how thin I was and asking how I did it,

When they asked me who the Prime Minister was I said I didn't know.